Ok, this is a weird one that came up in a game my brother and I were playing. I am playing Hilde, and my brother plays Rejection on my attack, then he wants to KFT his own Rejection to activate his Manifest Destiny to commit my Hilde. I want to negate the Rejection with No Memories. Does his KFT trigger before I can use No Memories? Also if I negate the Rejection with No Memories can he still KFT since No Memories just cancels the effects?

Thanks!

KFT responds to the action card being played, so as long as he has played an action card it doesnt really matter whether you have already cancelled its effects or not.

similar with no memories, it says after your opponent plays an Enhance

Bable is right, aslong as he played an action card he has he right to play KFT.. In adition i do belive that whoever played the card, ability get first response, so no point in waisting you no memories. if im am wrong (and theres is a good chance i am) i belive he could also just play KFT as an enhance, pitch 1 card burn the effect and then just commit hilde.

The player whose turn it it gets first response or resolution of floating effects.

This actually is a very interesting case. Have we ever had an instance of two canceling abilities being played on the same card or effect? I would say that you can play your KFT, but the effect would fizzle. (You would get to use your your response to commit Hilde) Though I would say that it's interesting that you can play a cancel ability to an already canceled ability. It seems odd that unlike you can't commit a committed card, you can cancel an already canceled ability.

Baranor said:

I do not believe this is true. This is USUALLY true...but i think in the case of a reversal, Chunners R, etc, the player who's "form" it is gets first response.

I could be mistaken, but i believe if an E is played during your reversal attack, you get first chance to negate or respond to it.

Could someone either please tell me if im right or wrong? Thanks

Thanks for all the help guys!

Rule 2.9.3 States:

Players alternate playing Responses to any trigger, starting with the player whose turn it is, until both players consecutively pass on playing Responses.

Baranor said:

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Thanks B!

If it's his turn, he can cancel his own rejection before you can. Once an ability is canceled you can not cancel it again.

Otherwise I could use multiple chesters for the life gain, in response to a single foundation ability, which I'm pretty sure you can't do.

aslum said:

Do we have any confirmation of this? That's what I would say too, but theoretically with the game mechanics once you cancel a played ability you go back to the "ability has been played" trigger and could play another ability that happens to have a canceling effect again.

you can definately respond with another chester's, cause as you said, the trigger is still there.

However, chester's is worded "...and THEN gain vitality" which means it is conditional. I am unsure of wether or not you would get the life gain, but you definately can respond with chesters incase you wanted to commit it for some reason.

Smazzurco said:

Correct.

Chester's commits to the response window, it's alreadt been negated. Conditional life gain does not happen because nothing was negated.