R2-D2 and boost question

By Andyg1977, in X-Wing Rules Questions

I was wondering if I combined R2-D2 and boost would I be able to regenerate 2 Shirley tokens in ine turn if I performed a green move?

R2-D2 = After executing a green maneuver, you may recover 1 shield (up to your shield value).

For example.

Move a green move = + 1 shield

Action - boost that gives you the option if 1 of 3 green moves = 2nd shield

Is my thinking correct ????

Thanks Andrew

Boost is explicitly not a maneuver, it is an action. No matter what is on your dial, performing a boost action will not allow you to recover a shield with R2-D2.

Edited to add: From the FAQ "Performing a Boost does not count as executing a maneuver."

Jim

Edited by Emrico

To elaborate a bit: Since boost isn't a maneuver, it has no difficulty, and doesn't trigger anything that relies on a maneuver.

This isn't strictly related, but it made me think of it - if you had a pilot with Daredevil who used that ability to do a 1-turn in a ship with an R2 unit, would that Daredevil action now be considered a green maneuver?

The card says do a white 1-turn, which seems similar to the "ionised 1-forward" which an R2 unit *does* make green.

Daredevil is explicitly a maneuver, not an action, so I think it might work...

Daredevil is a maneuver. With R2, the maneuver is green. That allows you to remove one stress token. If you had a stress token while performing the action. Which you don't.

If you ever manage to place R2, R2D2 and daredevil on one ship, daredevil regenerates a shield.

So if you had a pilot with an ability that fired from performing a green maneuver, and they were in a ship with a droid slot, daredevil would let you use that ability twice in one turn?

Sweet.

I assume the stress token you get for daredevil shows up once the maneuver step is complete, so the greenness of the maneuver isn't relevant.

So if you had a pilot with an ability that fired from performing a green maneuver, and they were in a ship with a droid slot, daredevil would let you use that ability twice in one turn?

Yes it does. There is no such combination, though.

I assume the stress token you get for daredevil shows up once the maneuver step is complete, so the greenness of the maneuver isn't relevant.

Correct. You do receive that stress no matter what. Nearby Yorr might be an exception. If the empire ever gets a ship with astromech slot.

Daredevil is a maneuver. With R2, the maneuver is green. That allows you to remove one stress token. If you had a stress token while performing the action. Which you don't.

If you ever manage to place R2, R2D2 and daredevil on one ship, daredevil regenerates a shield.

Edited by kraedin

Daredevil is a maneuver. With R2, the maneuver is green. That allows you to remove one stress token. If you had a stress token while performing the action. Which you don't.

If you ever manage to place R2, R2D2 and daredevil on one ship, daredevil regenerates a shield.

That's not strictly true. The Perform Actions step occurs after the check stress step, so the difficulty of the Daredevil maneuver doesn't add or remove stress tokens.

Performing the daredevil maneuver lets you check stress again.

The daredevil maneuver requires you to perform the "Set Template" and "Clean Up" steps. Which means you do everything between those steps as well.

In other words: During the perform action step you need to perform four of the previous steps again.

That's why the wording was changed from the maneuver being red to being white and giving a stress token.

I thought the errata were about Tycho?

Daredevil is a maneuver. With R2, the maneuver is green. That allows you to remove one stress token. If you had a stress token while performing the action. Which you don't.

If you ever manage to place R2, R2D2 and daredevil on one ship, daredevil regenerates a shield.

That's not strictly true. The Perform Actions step occurs after the check stress step, so the difficulty of the Daredevil maneuver doesn't add or remove stress tokens.

Performing the daredevil maneuver lets you check stress again.

The daredevil maneuver requires you to perform the "Set Template" and "Clean Up" steps. Which means you do everything between those steps as well.

In other words: During the perform action step you need to perform four of the previous steps again.

That's why the wording was changed from the maneuver being red to being white and giving a stress token.

I thought the errata were about Tycho?

Nope, Kraedin has it right on this one.

As messed up as it is, "Execute a Maneuver" is ONLY step 3, and does not trigger a stress phase. That's why the errata.

As messed up as it is, "Execute a Maneuver" is ONLY step 3 ...

That means you need to move the ship from the beginning of the maneuver template to the end of the maneuver template when there is no maneuver template on the table?

You place the template on the table during step 2. You remove it from the table during step five. How can you possibly execute a maneuver without resolving steps 2 and 5?

As messed up as it is, "Execute a Maneuver" is ONLY step 3 ...

That means you need to move the ship from the beginning of the maneuver template to the end of the maneuver template when there is no maneuver template on the table?

You place the template on the table during step 2. You remove it from the table during step five. How can you possibly execute a maneuver without resolving steps 2 and 5?

I made the same argument back in the day when Daredevil was A Thing ;)

The practical reality is that Steps 2 and 5 are not actually game steps. They really belong as sub-parts of 3, but it's a symptom of the absolutely horrid rules that X-wing started with. I think having "pick up your template" as a formal step in the timing is a lot like turrets not working - one of those thing that if they're asked about it, the devs will sort of mumble about excessive errata to fix, look at their watch, and realize they're late for a meeting that was supposed to start at 11:23.

I don't disagree at all. It's an absolute mess... but it's what we've got, and it's been confirmed face-to-face.