Echo + ACD+ Decoy

Boba + VI

Kir Kanos

First 2 are the core of the squad and very reliable. I used to put some upgrades on Boba and Echo (8points) and fly with Backstabber.

So know the think with me part:

As Boba and Echo are major threats I took BS because he gets ignored, what if instead of using upgrades I just put the points in the 3rd ship?

For 24 points Kanos kinda feels ok: he just takes evade and hope to be ignored, if draws fire thats fine with me as Boba & Echo will tear you apart. Even nicer than BS against Falcons...

A cheaper alternative I've run twice is Mithel+ Opportunist (5 die @R1) and while good enough R1 is harder to achieve than R2-3.

Makes sense? Have we brothers found a home for Kir Kanos? How would you spend 24 points? Doomshuttle is not an option.

TIA

I really want to like Kir... I think he'll pop up again when Fleet officer starts handing out Focus in addition to his evades but I'm still not sure if he's worth it over a RGP. He flies more like a basic tie than an interceptor since he doesn't PTL and you don't want to be boosting/BR with him. Not a bad thing, just maybe not a good place to sink your points.

I always take BS over Mauler unless I'm going to pull a combo with Mauler's PS/EPT. 2 sometimes, 3 often (even at range 3), and 4 at range 1 is better than 2, 2, 4 all day. At 24 exactly I'd be hard pressed to do more than 2 academy pilots or a PTL Saber.

I really want to like Kir... I think he'll pop up again when Fleet officer starts handing out Focus in addition to his evades but I'm still not sure if he's worth it over a RGP. He flies more like a basic tie than an interceptor since he doesn't PTL and you don't want to be boosting/BR with him. Not a bad thing, just maybe not a good place to sink your points.

I always take BS over Mauler unless I'm going to pull a combo with Mauler's PS/EPT. 2 sometimes, 3 often (even at range 3), and 4 at range 1 is better than 2, 2, 4 all day. At 24 exactly I'd be hard pressed to do more than 2 academy pilots or a PTL Saber.

Thanks for your input, Fleet Officer will be the nicest Crew ever (Vader please forgive me) and will open lots of paths.

I must be wrong here but with all this stress floating around the only PTL interceptor I can bring to the table is Soontir. What I like abot Kir over BS is that I get better dial and boost above consistent 3 reds which at the end means more options available. Within this squad with big guns he'll be ignored and, hopefully, exploit those options.

With 24 points, I would go with Lorrir and a better initiative bid. He is one of the few pilots I've ever been happy with as a substitute for 2 academy pilots in a list. Depending on your opponent, he will either draw fire because he has a low hull value (and easily dodge arc if you fly him well) or he can keep using his ability to position himself for better shots and maneuvers next turn.

i would use a Saber squad with PTL.

I ran this but with some upgrades and Whisper not Echo. acme to 98 points with Night Beast. Worked like a charm. If you have 24 points why not two Academy ties?

I just put together my first 5 ship imperial list earlier

Echo + advanced cloaking

2x saber squad

2x academy pilots

100 pts

It's not strong on synergy, outside of good formation flying, but the main body of the force should run up the middle while echo gets to sneaking.

I just put together my first 5 ship imperial list earlier

Echo + advanced cloaking

2x saber squad

2x academy pilots

100 pts

It's not strong on synergy, outside of good formation flying, but the main body of the force should run up the middle while echo gets to sneaking.

I dont think Decoy should be used when intending to mix it with a phantom, too often the Phantom will be out side range 2 of Boba and it will do nothing, additionally you really want the higher pilot skill when moving as well as shooting as moving after everyone else makes a huge difference.

I find with the phantom because of its fragility I prefer to arc dodge and not have a shot rather than get into range 1 of an opponent for the magical 5 die attack but have 2-3 enemy ships have me in Arc and firing on me, my green dice are so fickle.

Think of your weaknesses and work backwards. You need to kill Falcons. Bring a buzzsaw shuttle or at least OGP + FCS.

24 points will also get you a Doom Shuttle...

I just put together my first 5 ship imperial list earlier

Echo + advanced cloaking

2x saber squad

2x academy pilots

100 pts

It's not strong on synergy, outside of good formation flying, but the main body of the force should run up the middle while echo gets to sneaking.

You're going to run into trouble with Echo at PS6. At least for now.

I've only flown echo twice, both times without VI. I won one and lost one. My local meta is a is still sort of low PS high ship count themed, even rebels. I prefer that sweet 4-6 midrange with named pilots myself.

i would use a Saber squad with PTL.

This.