Now you're just giving me license to say hyperbolic things like "yeah, a third faction could be the 'Greedo shoots first' of X-Wing!"

"BLACK SUN COMETH!"

No, it doesn't, don't be ridiculous. ;-)

/I have no idea

That big Marauder looks pretty crazy.

I still fail to see how a new faction is better than merely assigning the ships to the existing factions.

You can have more design space, things not limited by the presence of Biggs or howlrunner

There is a guy that sold these on eBay.

I have not checked on it in a while because they are not in the right scale for the game.

This bad boy however, is.

Ooh, the EaW Interceptor IV. I'll take thirty!

excuse me if somebody has sighted this already but...

HOLY CRAP. DOES THAT SHIP'S TAIL LOOK FAMILIAR TO ANYBODY ELSE?

My credits are on the M3-A Syck fighter. With its highly modifiable weapons mount FFG could give it a set of non-unique title cards that would add either a cannon, torpedo, or missile icon to the upgrade bar. Otherwise it's a lightweight starfighter, simmilar to a TIE fighter, but with 1-2 shields. I think there is a lot of potential in this design, but I really want them in a squad with my Firesprays.

Check out the top upgrade card, third from the left of the Decimator spread. The suspected "Intimidator" card. Isn't that the either the Syck or Hutt fighter (see 2 above), moving from right to left on the card?

I don't abide by the theory that card art predicts future ships but this new information, could it hint at the card itself?

EDIT: I haven't gone throughout the whole thread so I'm sorry if I'm stating old news. If so, "move along, move along."

Ah crap, there you go.

Kihraxz, Rihkxyrk and Dunelizard. All of those ships first came out in Star Wars Galaxies for the Freelance Faction. You are missing the Scyk, seen on the Intimidate upgrade card coming with the VT-49.

Check out the top upgrade card, third from the left of the Decimator spread. The suspected "Intimidator" card. Isn't that the either the Syck or Hutt fighter (see 2 above), moving from right to left on the card?

Good eye. It looks very very much like the syck fighter. Zooming in, it even looks like the same color scheme as the one in the OP.

Check out the top upgrade card, third from the left of the Decimator spread. The suspected "Intimidator" card. Isn't that the either the Syck or Hutt fighter (see 2 above), moving from right to left on the card?

Good eye. It looks very very much like the syck fighter. Zooming in, it even looks like the same color scheme as the one in the OP.

That upgrade cards does....my head might explode!

Maybe you boys'll listen to Poppa Boss now...

BLACK SUN COMMIN...

excuse me if somebody has sighted this already but...

HOLY CRAP. DOES THAT SHIP'S TAIL LOOK FAMILIAR TO ANYBODY ELSE?

My credits are on the M3-A Syck fighter. With its highly modifiable weapons mount FFG could give it a set of non-unique title cards that would add either a cannon, torpedo, or missile icon to the upgrade bar. Otherwise it's a lightweight starfighter, simmilar to a TIE fighter, but with 1-2 shields. I think there is a lot of potential in this design, but I really want them in a squad with my Firesprays.

Check out the top upgrade card, third from the left of the Decimator spread. The suspected "Intimidator" card. Isn't that the either the Syck or Hutt fighter (see 2 above), moving from right to left on the card?

I don't abide by the theory that card art predicts future ships but this new information, could it hint at the card itself?

EDIT: I haven't gone throughout the whole thread so I'm sorry if I'm stating old news. If so, "move along, move along."

I would die for a Scyk fighter.

FFG has proven they are building a complete STAR WARS, and some of their products have and will continue to cross over. That was why I posted this.

The Bounty Hunters and Black Sun are all up in these other FFG Goodies. It is a foundation, and we Wingers are going to get some of this coolness. There will be no dumb ass prequel stuff. There IS going to be all kinds of EU Glory in our story because our FFG boys have that license. The STAR WARS License. The Prequel CRAP ain't STAR WARS. The core EU stuff IS STAR WARS Continued.

I like DAT!

F#*@ George, the Main Core of The EU IS STAR WARS.

GL sanctioned it because when it came out way back in the day he was tired of making the films. He wanted to do other projects. Who can blame him really.

But he kind of dropped the ball with his glorious space opera.

He became what he hated in his youth.

Now he has flip-flopped yet again and lies like the corporatist dog he is and says that none of the Expanded Universe counts because he went and made another big $$$ deal.

Be that as it may, he did make the first trilogy, and we owe him for that. We love you Georgie, you old $$$***** you... and we know despite what you say now that you are old and sick that HAN SHOT FIRST .

He made starwars yes but now he's doing his best to destroy it the prequels are boring overly relying on flashy lightsaber battles to the point you get tired of them, the poor actors have nothing but green screens to work with resulting in good actors giving pretty bad performances by their standards, both actors for Anakin were awful.

He wants the eu gone because even the worst parts are better than anything he can produce now.

You know my best friends say this too. I do not approve of what GL is doing but I will not hate him because I still remember the good man that made the first three films.

The creator cannot change what I feel because I am not that weak.

I am disappointed in him, but I still love A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back, and I can even enjoy about half of Return Of The Jedi.

There is even a good thirty minutes of true Star Wars accidentally contained sporadically within the whole of the terrible prequel mess.

The best parts of the Expanded Universe are what FFG is going to continue to work with and I am just fine with that.

I'm really pretty okay with EU being dashed. Clean slate for the new films... And saying the prequels aren't Star Wars is...

...Well, it's complete and utter denial that is extremely incorrect. And sure, Han shot first. Nobody with two brain cells to rub together will argue that.

But seriously. Must prequel hate continue? Is it really so hard to like Star Wars as a whole?

...Except for the Vong, that is.

Cap'n the EU is Star Wars continued. George even approved of it. So all of the X-WING Series for example is legitimate Cannon. That is why some of us are not keen on GL suddenly trying to convince us that it is no longer legitimate.

That dog won't hunt!

Yes the prequel hate must continue it must burn long after the stars have dimmed and died out, they are not good star wars films, they arnt good films full stop.

Yup... just take that thirty minutes of good stuff out before you burn the rest.

I've thought about this a lot since the disappointment of the prequels, wondering why they failed where Star Wars succeeded.

There's a lot of reasons, really. The CGI special effects were nowhere near as effective as the live-action and model effects from the original trilogy. The story was a lot more complex and convoluted, and jumped around all over the place. There were too many characters, who were too poorly developed.

But the main reason is that the original trilogy managed to capture a look and feel that the prequels did not. Everything from the original trilogy was iconic. The black-armoured Vader. The white-armoured stormtroopers. The uniformed officers. The aliens, the monsters, the Death Star, the Star Destroyers, TIE fighters, X-Wngs - all instantly recognisable, all easily identifiable, ever-present and simply iconic.

To this day, I could ask almost any of the people I know what colour the Rebel pilot uniforms were in the attack on the Death Star, to draw me a TIE fighter, or where the Rebel base was in Empire Strikes Back, and almost all of them would be able to answer immediately and correctly.

I wouldn't even know what to ask about the prequels. And that's the difference. That's why we have X-Wing, The Miniatures game and not Naboo Starfighter: The Miniatures Game.

Cap'n the EU is Star Wars continued. George even approved of it. So all of the X-WING Series for example is legitimate Cannon. That is why some of us are not keen on GL suddenly trying to convince us that it is no longer legitimate.

That dog won't hunt!

You tell me this information as though I knew none of it. Joe, I've followed Star Wars EU canon since I was about nine years old, and I'm twenty one. I don't know it inside and out, but I know it pretty **** well.

But I'll let my Beloved Kyle Katarn, Revan, Moldy Crow, Ace Azameen go if it means no more Vong, Dark Empire, and Legacy. That's okay with me. But if Disney/Lucas are suddenly telling us that the EU we know is no longer official canon, then what say have we?

It's not our Intellectual Property- and we're hopefully mature enough to accept change. Besides, EU has always been in a bit of a floaty type of canon anyway, and films always took precedence. So this is really nothing new.

You know what else it means? If they want to pick and choose the EU they want in the new stuff, they can.

That means we can have Thrawn as a surviving antagonist if they so desire. I completely and utterly fail to see any downside in that.

Regardless, what they say goes, for the sole reason that they own it. If you can't accept that, and ignore it, alright. Have fun with that I guess- I'll be sitting over here enjoying new Star Wars content as it comes.

And perhaps smugly display framed images of Prequel starships in my living room.

Here it is... that 30 minutes.

Becuase...

Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi fight Darth Maul.

Obi-Wan and Jango Fett do what Han Solo and Boba Fett should of done... fight in hand to hand, and in space.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTPos-P1rgI

... and several little moments from the films that are reasonably covered by this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buXz4BYS8kw&list=PLDyPKEWpAGxp7Ub54fuNJvv3xeT3s6GzP&index=14

I'll never forgive George for axing both Maul and Jango so easily. They both deserved far better.

Jango was such a badass. As was Maul. Hell, the same **** happened to Grievous too. I just didn't like how these badass villains constantly died.

But we got to keep the old fart Dooku(ie).

Guh.

Cap'n the EU is Star Wars continued. George even approved of it. So all of the X-WING Series for example is legitimate Cannon. That is why some of us are not keen on GL suddenly trying to convince us that it is no longer legitimate.

That dog won't hunt!

You tell me this information as though I knew none of it. Joe, I've followed Star Wars EU canon since I was about nine years old, and I'm twenty one. I don't know it inside and out, but I know it pretty **** well.

But I'll let my Beloved Kyle Katarn, Revan, Moldy Crow, Ace Azameen go if it means no more Vong, Dark Empire, and Legacy. That's okay with me. But if Disney/Lucas are suddenly telling us that the EU we know is no longer official canon, then what say have we?

It's not our Intellectual Property- and we're hopefully mature enough to accept change. Besides, EU has always been in a bit of a floaty type of canon anyway, and films always took precedence. So this is really nothing new.

You know what else it means? If they want to pick and choose the EU they want in the new stuff, they can.

That means we can have Thrawn as a surviving antagonist if they so desire. I completely and utterly fail to see any downside in that.

Regardless, what they say goes, for the sole reason that they own it. If you can't accept that, and ignore it, alright. Have fun with that I guess- I'll be sitting over here enjoying new Star Wars content as it comes.

And perhaps smugly display framed images of Prequel starships in my living room.

I am cool with everything you just typed except that I am not going to stupidly obey the new rulers/owners of Star Wars. I will take what I want from it, if it is cool by my standards .

I do trust that FFG will keep on kicking the good stuff out for us properly, and that is awesome.

Not sure I appreciate essentially being called stupid, Joe.

Regardless, I'm fine with what they've done, are doing, and will do. It'll all pan out just fine in the end.