HMS Camdon Lock from Quark
Nah, it's rubbish...
If you added a non-Star Wars ship to the game...
The Camden lock is from Hyperspace. And it has missiles heavy beam weapons and is extremely fast. Though i would like it more if it had a different front with more of a defined bridge
I agree it's stupid an nonsensical, 64 TW is the more power than the Earth produces in heat at it's core.
The numbers that they throw around on both sides, by creators of the series and the fans, are nonsensical,
but fanatical star wars fans have the most biased calculations I've seen. And that Slave I figure a good example.
The thing is, that Slave-1 reading is not fan made, it was printed in an official book detailing the stats of many SW ships. It could be argued that given GWs are measured over the course of a second, and Slave-1 does not fire continuous shots, it's power per shot is lower. It's stated Rof is 480 RPM or 8 RPS. This would bring its power output per shot down to 8,000 GW. Still obscene and inconsistent given the damage it is shown to do to small asteroids.
suspended disbelief is one thing, but
suspended intelligence is a whole other level.
Space Zeppelins!!! Meteor Blitzkrieg!
and now you got me thinking, this could be it's own game:
I would love a Pkunk fury, Chmmr avatar, Syreen penetrator (never knew they were called that, lol on the name), or Orz nemesis.
As the pkunk to be able to shoot you would have to shout Nitwit! Stupid! Loser! Baby! Dodo! Fool! Idiot! Jerk! Moron! Nerd!
Yesssss!
Also, don't know if they've been mentioned yet, but the Avenger from X-Com or the Firestorm from XCOM EU (2012)
Wrt StarCraft, carriers and bc's are probably too big, but wraiths and scouts would be cool.
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I agree it's stupid an nonsensical, 64 TW is the more power than the Earth produces in heat at it's core.
The numbers that they throw around on both sides, by creators of the series and the fans, are nonsensical,
but fanatical star wars fans have the most biased calculations I've seen. And that Slave I figure a good example.
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The thing is, that Slave-1 reading is not fan made, it was printed in an official book detailing the stats of many SW ships. It could be argued that given GWs are measured over the course of a second, and Slave-1 does not fire continuous shots, it's power per shot is lower. It's stated Rof is 480 RPM or 8 RPS. This would bring its power output per shot down to 8,000 GW. Still obscene and inconsistent given the damage it is shown to do to small asteroids.
Gigawatt already has a "per second" component, so it's not like you're saying anything that can't be derived from the numbers involved.
In any case, being an engineering major, I like to play around with trying to figure out the amount of power in sci-fi ship weapons as a hobby, and the numbers for Slave I are not really that biased according to the numbers I've arrived at. The asteroids in the asteroid belt scene in AotC appear to be metallic iron, and the instant vaporization of each asteroid hit suggests that, based on the volume of the asteroid, each shot has to be around 64,000GW, because any less would not be enough to vaporize an asteroid that size in a fraction of a second. If the energy level was lower, the asteroid would simply shatter rather than turn into a cloud of luminous gas when it was hit by a laser cannon shot.
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I agree it's stupid an nonsensical, 64 TW is the more power than the Earth produces in heat at it's core.
The numbers that they throw around on both sides, by creators of the series and the fans, are nonsensical,
but fanatical star wars fans have the most biased calculations I've seen. And that Slave I figure a good example.
.
The thing is, that Slave-1 reading is not fan made, it was printed in an official book detailing the stats of many SW ships. It could be argued that given GWs are measured over the course of a second, and Slave-1 does not fire continuous shots, it's power per shot is lower. It's stated Rof is 480 RPM or 8 RPS. This would bring its power output per shot down to 8,000 GW. Still obscene and inconsistent given the damage it is shown to do to small asteroids.
Gigawatt already has a "per second" component, so it's not like you're saying anything that can't be derived from the numbers involved.
In any case, being an engineering major, I like to play around with trying to figure out the amount of power in sci-fi ship weapons as a hobby, and the numbers for Slave I are not really that biased according to the numbers I've arrived at. The asteroids in the asteroid belt scene in AotC appear to be metallic iron, and the instant vaporization of each asteroid hit suggests that, based on the volume of the asteroid, each shot has to be around 64,000GW, because any less would not be enough to vaporize an asteroid that size in a fraction of a second. If the energy level was lower, the asteroid would simply shatter rather than turn into a cloud of luminous gas when it was hit by a laser cannon shot.
It's worth noting a lot of technical data in the Star Wars books came from Curtis Saxton, who is a PhD-holding theoretical astrophysicist and who uses a scientific analysis of the films to come to a lot of his conclusions. Mike Wong of Stardestroyer.net does a very similar thing and, while it's clear he's biased towards Star Wars from an artistic/philosophical perspective, I can't logically fault his technical and mathematical analysis.
That's not to say the numbers aren't hideously absurd, but that's a problem the creators of the media caused, not the people applying analysis to it.
There's also the argument posed in 2010 Space Odyssey (I think, not read that one yet) of "but Jupiter can't turn into a star!" to which another scientist responds "well it just did".
Logically, with our current understanding, it's just not possible to create laser beam that could destroy a planet or even a lower-end military weapon that could evaporate an asteroid in an instant, but it happened in Star Wars so we just have to assume that they can harness that power and use any common factors (eg, weapon effect in Star Trek on similar asteroids and planets) to compare the two, rather than drawing assumptions from plot devices, dialogue, etc.
Putting the Enterprise in a game? I think you probably just ignore lore/canon and/or use the MK vs DC excuse of "some people got powered up when the universes merged, that's why Scorpion can pound Superman into dust oh and also magic" and adjust appropriately.
Otherwise you have X-Wings obliterating capital ships, and that's just no fun for anyone and stretches plausibility more, IMO.*
That's probably what I'd do is adding B5 or Star Wars ships to something like Battlefleet Gothic or Starfleet Battles.
*YMMV, at the same time that could be pretty funny, if point-costed properly
Edited by KtanHow about the ships from V the original not the remake
Now those would be fun. 
Personally, I want to throw in another vote for the Gunstar. It's a ship I loved growing up (and in fact I have a 20" model of it hanging from my ceiling), and it would be fun to fly it. And if you're going to include that, might as well include the Deck Fighter and Swarm:
Given the recent 'everything thats not in the films isn't cannon' event, I think it'd be justified to call the Ebon Hawk a non star wars ship. Could have a pilot from either KOTOR 1 or 2 and it would look beautiful on the table.
*sigh* That's not what they said, and I wish people would quit perpetuating that idea. They are cutting out the dumb stuff (like KJA's Jedi Academy trilogy, hopefully) and keeping the things that are good. What things stay and what things go is up for debate, though.
yes! it does exist!!!! need to get me one of these! I might actually fly a hawk now... (have 2 / never played a game with them).
Some of the Wing Commander ships are not bad but lets steer clear of the foul abomination from the movie
http://cdn.wcnews.com/newestshots/full/wcmrapier.jpg
I say this would be an excellent fighter. But im a big Harlock fan so i suppose i would
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JYAw8I1S5ik/T633wWYYgZI/AAAAAAACljA/4L4AiE2oo_8/s640/12.jpg
http://www.gunjap.net/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/1709.jpg
haha this is a good thread. I like.
I'd have to add Eagle 5.. it's a classic!
lest see... probably the shuttles dial with 5 hull / 5 shields. 1 att 2 agil
A small base ship with the 'Jam' action? Sounds sweet!
A small base ship with the 'Jam' action? Sounds sweet!haha this is a good thread. I like.
I'd have to add Eagle 5.. it's a classic!
lest see... probably the shuttles dial with 5 hull / 5 shields. 1 att 2 agil
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Discard this card to turn any maneuver template into a K turn.
This ...
Dunno if it has been posted, but Fury Interceptor!
I really want to play with the ships of Space balls, it's will be very interesting, I think that the rare ocasión of the parody get the same level of the movie, at least when it relase, greettings.
How about the Eagle Trasnport
The ship that made them change the concept Millenium Falcon into the Blockade Runner that we all know and love.
http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/01/10-DockingBay94_a.png
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EXCELLENT PAINTJOB.
I really want this model now. Curious did you do the markings with decals or freehand? and what material did you get the model in? Did you have to sand back the fuzz much before painting?
Edited by Rob JediThe Apollo...
…and Hercules...
…from Descent 2: Freespace. Also, I'd love for the for the Tsunami bomb to be available. That thing absolutely murdered Capital ships. Honestly, this was just a really great game...
Edited by That One Guy*snip*
least thing you could do is post pics of the high-poly updates the Freespace-community made over the years (all Terran ships had at least one itteration of updates:
EDIT: stats for the Apollo and Herc, based on my stats for the Mara on page 1, which is in turn based on the original game data:
Apollo 2 3 2 0/2
Hercules 3 2 2 0/3
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I have no idea what this is, but it is now very important to me.