Has anyone tried bombers with the new secondary weapons (flechette torps and ion pulse missiles)? I haven't gotten my hands on wave 4 yet, I was just wondering how good disruptive bombers would be.

They carry tons of boom. When weren't they competitive when used right?

I've enjoyed using the flechette torpedoes from the Rebel Transport pack on my 4 bomber lists,and it feels very cost effective, although oddly enough in all those matches I never actually used them since I tried to use the homing and assault missiles first. Not sure what that says.

Maybe It's just uncommon to see them played in my area then. I haven't even seen one at a tournament. Regardless, I was just wondering about the disruptive capability of some cheap bombers with some cheap upgrades. I've not found a good use for them in any of my lists, but that's probably because of my play-style.

I put forth they are more valuable than ever when used in the swarm fighter configuration, which may or may not include Howlrunner. They are less susceptable to splash ordinance with the 6 hull.

Yeah TIE swarm using bombers instead of fighters is really quite effective. You can't 1 shot those suckers.

As much as I like the concept, I am of the opinion that ordinance is bad. Unless you have something really special to make it effective it just costs too much for what it brings. Usually one more die on attack and sometime costing the opponent a defense die at range 3. But it takes a lot of effort to set it up for a single shot. You can't just target lock and fire, the odds are it will be worse than a normal focused shot. So don't use them as bombers I suppose.

I really want to try 2 scimitars w/ a flechette torp and an ion pulse missile each, a bounty hunter and a vader shuttle for 99 pts. That's a grand total of 32 hp on the field, and in theory the bombers will do a phenomenal job of setting up some actionless targets for vader to crit. ...and the bounty hunter speaks for itself.

3 gammas, a scimitar, and an academy + bombs and missiles to taste is solid. Just use the ap and the scimitar with a bomb as blockers and alpha strike the hell out of em. Bombs help damage output and they should have the hull and PS to take on all but High PS ace lists.

I've been flying bombers with flechette torpedoes and occasionally the ion pulse missiles. They're nice and inexpensive, though I think the concussion missile is still my go-to ordnance.

With the introduction of the Phantom, I think these stress/ion inducing weapons are a good thing to have in the tube. I just happen to see more B-Wings that I want to cripple with an alpha strike.

I really like the idea of Vessery + 4 Scimitars. That's a lot of HP and targetting computers for the good Colonel.

I don't have any of the 4th wave stuff, so i havent been able to try it myself. I don't see any mention of munitions failsafe here. Whats the forum's opinion on how well that would work in this situation?

I don't have any of the 4th wave stuff, so i havent been able to try it myself. I don't see any mention of munitions failsafe here. Whats the forum's opinion on how well that would work in this situation?

It seems to me that if you're relying on munitions failsafes to protect you from firing your ordnance uselessly, you're using your ordnance wrong to begin with.

I've flown my bombers in a couple of skirmishes with munitions failsafes. Sure, it's a nice cheap insurance policy, but I never ended up needing them. One hit always got through. Far too often only one hit got through, and I still felt cheated.

Fair point. Seems like the same decision for the defender as with gunner, focus and deal with another potentially worse attack later, or take your licks now.

Even if munitions failsafe was free its still kinda meh!

Is ok for epic lists but in 100 point lists na

Though it does mean you can fire your missiles/torps with just the T/L and not be too worried but I'd rather just bring homing missiles and be done with it

I used an Imperial list of Krassis, Jonus and Howlrunner to win the last FLGS tourney well before Wave 4 (or the Transport or Corvette) came out. Bombers have always been competitive.

I am pretty sure that bombers have always been competitive. At Imadaar last month I flew a bomber swarm and my first match was against another bomber swarm.

Repeat after me Jonus Swarm with Cluster Missiles.

I am pretty sure that bombers have always been competitive. At Imadaar last month I flew a bomber swarm and my first match was against another bomber swarm.

Repeat after me Jonus Swarm with Cluster Missiles.

That 20 attack dice alpha is nothing to sneeze at