Xwing Aces in the Era of Stress

By Zoccola, in X-Wing

So a while back (like a month ago when the transport dropped) the big rebel thing was Opportunist, specifically permutations of the following list:

Wes + VI

Wedge + Opportunist

Luke + Opportunist

Sprinkle remaining 5 points as you would. I ran it a few times and it worked well, then I ran into Flechette Torpedoes. And R3A2. And recently Tactician. And soon Mara Jade. Stress kills Opportunist.

I was in a meeting and thinking to myself, "What if we replace the Opportunist with something else?" I immediately thought about Predator.

The thing with the 3 xwing list is, the moment you have a poor turn, from running into an asteroid to rolling blanks, you hve just made it harder to win. Predator removes bad luck. Especially against the swarm builds that have infected Rebel mentality recently. I propose the new Rogue Squadron:

Wedge + Predator + R7

Wes + Predator + R7

Luke + Predator + R3A2

When I played it as an Opportunist list, people tended to ignore Luke in favour of Wedge and Wes, and then even with all his pseudo focus magic, he still couldnt stay alive. Now I want people to focus on him from the start, so making him annoying is just the ticket.

Any thoughts?

So a while back (like a month ago when the transport dropped) the big rebel thing was Opportunist, specifically permutations of the following list:

Wes + VI

Wedge + Opportunist

Luke + Opportunist

Sprinkle remaining 5 points as you would. I ran it a few times and it worked well, then I ran into Flechette Torpedoes. And R3A2. And recently Tactician. And soon Mara Jade. Stress kills Opportunist.

I was in a meeting and thinking to myself, "What if we replace the Opportunist with something else?" I immediately thought about Predator.

The thing with the 3 xwing list is, the moment you have a poor turn, from running into an asteroid to rolling blanks, you hve just made it harder to win. Predator removes bad luck. Especially against the swarm builds that have infected Rebel mentality recently. I propose the new Rogue Squadron:

Wedge + Predator + R7

Wes + Predator + R7

Luke + Predator + R3A2

When I played it as an Opportunist list, people tended to ignore Luke in favour of Wedge and Wes, and then even with all his pseudo focus magic, he still couldnt stay alive. Now I want people to focus on him from the start, so making him annoying is just the ticket.

Any thoughts?

You're kind of shooting yourself in the foot if your opponent doesn't play a swarm or a bunk of rookies and Zs, aren't you?

I think this list would perform well against lists that aren't swarms.

I just hope Predator comes with other ships. I needs lots and don't want more Defenders.

My experience with Krassis says that 1 reroll is okay, especially since it doesn't take an action. Plus, it's cheaper than Opportunist.

I ordered 2 Defenders and I won one, so I have 3. :) Predator gives a single reroll vs PS3+ and two rerolls vs PS2 or less. What it also does is sometimes lets you keep your focus for defense, as I will reroll focuses before I spend the token. 25% of the time I am in a worse position, 25% of the time the same, and half the time I have improved my shot. This lets me keep the focus, making those 2 green dice work that much better.

So a while back (like a month ago when the transport dropped) the big rebel thing was Opportunist, specifically permutations of the following list:

Wes + VI

Wedge + Opportunist

Luke + Opportunist

Sprinkle remaining 5 points as you would. I ran it a few times and it worked well, then I ran into Flechette Torpedoes. And R3A2. And recently Tactician. And soon Mara Jade. Stress kills Opportunist.

I was in a meeting and thinking to myself, "What if we replace the Opportunist with something else?" I immediately thought about Predator.

The thing with the 3 xwing list is, the moment you have a poor turn, from running into an asteroid to rolling blanks, you hve just made it harder to win. Predator removes bad luck. Especially against the swarm builds that have infected Rebel mentality recently. I propose the new Rogue Squadron:

Wedge + Predator + R7

Wes + Predator + R7

Luke + Predator + R3A2

When I played it as an Opportunist list, people tended to ignore Luke in favour of Wedge and Wes, and then even with all his pseudo focus magic, he still couldnt stay alive. Now I want people to focus on him from the start, so making him annoying is just the ticket.

Any thoughts?

I think that list is over points, by one. I'm not sure where a good trade off would be though. You really want the predator on all three as you said, but that means someone's droid is getting bumped down to an R2, R4-D6, or R5.

Shouldn't you be paying more attention in your meeting???

Wedge + Predator + R7

Wes + Predator + R7

Luke + Predator + R3A2

I like Predator much better than Opportunist, but the R7s with Predator make Target Locks redundant on offense, so you'd only be taking them for defense. I'd much rather just stack Focus with Predator, or save that for defense instead of the TL, and use the point(s) on something else.

Shouldn't you be paying more attention in your meeting???

I was in a meeting today with my iPad and pretended to follow along while making lists at http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/ It pays when you find out what's going to be discussed at the meeting ahead of time and then you can look up from time to time and ask a question.

Wedge + Predator + R7

Wes + Predator + R7

Luke + Predator + R3A2

I like Predator much better than Opportunist, but the R7s with Predator make Target Locks redundant on offense, so you'd only be taking them for defense. I'd much rather just stack Focus with Predator, or save that for defense instead of the TL, and use the point(s) on something else.

I agree, and I also think Wes should have VI. If all 3 ships are packing predator, then the only friendly he can strip tokens for is Luke. I'd do:

32: Wes w/ VI, R3-A2

33: Wedge w/ Predator, R2 astro

34: Luke w/ Predator, R5-P9

Total: 99

This lets Wes strip tokens and replace them with stress. Wedge and Luke focus and get all predetorial on mofos. If Luke doesn't need his focus for offense, he can use it to heal a shield.

I am a point over. I thought about giving VI to Wes and I dont know. I like the freedom of Predator, as it will let me Kturn almost with impunity, as I will still more or less have 66% of a target lock.

My idea with the R7s were to make it a more difficult choice to shoot Wedge and Wes. That being said, I think I will drop the R7 from Wedge and replace it with...

R4D6!

I hate green dice and they hate me back. I know that I will be RB1 against another ship and they will score 4 hits on Wedge and I will whiff on my defense dice. R4D6 will let me eat stress instead of excess damage, and again, thanks to Predator, I am not as concerned about not having an action next round. It also means that Wedge has to be shot at least 3 times.

So it looks like this:

Wedge + Predator + R4D6

Wes + Predator + R7 (or swap for R2 to gain initiative)

Luke + Predator + R2A3

I don't know the exact math but R4-D6 is crap. Its trigger is rare and the defensive bonus marginal at best.

Predator is awesome, I don't disagree there, I just don't think Wes makes sense for just beefing up Luke. Not enough return on that investment. What about ol' Pork the Limit?

Wes + VI, Luke + Opportunist, Wedge + Wingman. The wingman EPT should help with the stress levels on Luke, and VI on Wes still has Wedge shooting at a tokenless target. It also evens out the Targeting Priority for your opponent between killing Luke or Wedge since both have Offensive boosting abilities via Pilot card or EPT.