Rogue Squadron is synonymous with X-Wing, the most iconic unit in the EU, so 2 years in, where is it in our wonderful game? Yes, we have a host of pilots taken from the unit but no direct reference.
I assume something is brewing in the FFG labs, but how would the community like to see this institution of Star Wars honoured on the tabletop?
Another 'Aces' style pack is the obvious but could they go for something grander?
I do not need to buy more X-Wings.
I see them kind of like the Royal Guards. Generic pilot with good PS and an EPT. This would totally be an Aces thing.
Give us 181th instead!
My first thought for Rogue Squadron was as a title card saying something like "any ally within range 3 may use this pilot's ability" (3 points) (X-Wing Only).
Then I realized that adding that power to any 3 named X-Wing pilots would basically overpower everything. Which is thematic, but hardly balanced.
I think they are waiting on an X-wing Aces pack. Give me a green X-wing and either a black X-wing or X-wing with blue markings.
I do think any Rogue Squadron Title card must be a support buff for allies rather than _just_ a power buff for the individual pilot. For instance: Ethan* A'baht's pilot ability would have been a Rogue Squadron Title Card.
*I don't care how the card is printed. Someone clearly transposed that A and H on his name and everyone is pretending it wasn't a typo. I'm not going to go along with it. The sooner we admit this is a mistake, the happier we'll all be.
We have half if not more of them already in the game.
Luke
Wedge
Tycho
Wes
Garven
Corran
red squadron is rogue squadron.. I was hoping for a title card anyways.. I agree with Souladin: perhaps adding a EPT slot would be the way to go as many x's (including known red/rogue squadron members) do not have an EPT. I know there is the new r2 that adds an EPT but it is a unique.
Edited by oddeyeWe have half if not more of them already in the game.
Luke
Wedge
Tycho
Wes
Garven
Corran
And Hobbie
And Hobbie
I thought I was missing someone.
Id like to see a rogue squadron title, but seriously, unless they drastically change the game, no one will use it. My meta is SATURATED with "cram as much ship as you can into your list" mentality. (Notice the use of ship...) With the Z95, we are going to see even more spam lists.
3x rookie + 3x Bandit = 100 points
I dont see a place for a card that makes Xwings more expensive and then adds an EPT slot to make it even more expensive. We already have 4 xwing pilots with epts, and a 5th if you throw R4D6 on it.
They need to spend time fixing ships that dont work so well. Like the Y-Wing and the Advanced.
We have half if not more of them already in the game.
Luke
Wedge
Tycho
Wes
Garven
Corran
And Hobbie
let's not forget ol Jek Porkins!!!
Id like to see a rogue squadron title, but seriously, unless they drastically change the game, no one will use it. My meta is SATURATED with "cram as much ship as you can into your list" mentality. (Notice the use of ship...) With the Z95, we are going to see even more spam lists.
3x rookie + 3x Bandit = 100 points
I dont see a place for a card that makes Xwings more expensive and then adds an EPT slot to make it even more expensive. We already have 4 xwing pilots with epts, and a 5th if you throw R4D6 on it.
They need to spend time fixing ships that dont work so well. Like the Y-Wing and the Advanced.
Very good points. I still think having an EPT on a red would make it so much better. No one really takes red squadrons over rooks. Green squadrons will soon have access to 2 EPT's at no extra cost (and possibly -2 with a refit) and reds are suppose to be the the best pilots in the rebellion..
I agree, Xwing only title card would be so awesome. That way I know which of these rebel cowards to make an example of.
Ibby and Ten were also Rogues.
As was Soontir.
Edited by VeldrinGive us 181th instead!
They already have. Saber Squadron was Fel's squadron when he first joined the 181st, and he was still Saber 1 while leading the wing. The Saber Squad art reflects them being 181st members with the blood stripe as well. PS4 may not be all that amazing, but they do have an EPT. Then with Fel himself, "Fel's Wrath"(his wingman) Turr Phennir and Lorrir we've got a good chunk of its ace pilots. Hell, with Tetran Cowell we even have the guy that impersonated Fel in Warlord Zsinj's fake 181st
We have half if not more of them already in the game.
Luke
Wedge
Tycho
Wes
Garven
Corran
Rogue Squadron was formed post-Yavin, so Garven was already dead. Though, Ibtisam was a member post-Endor, but flies a B-wing in the game as she was one of the original test pilots. A good chunk of the rebel named pilots then are/were Rogue Squadron members, though a generic Rogue Squadron X-wing, similar to the Saber Squadron interceptor, would be neat in some sort of future ace's pack. PS4 with an EPT, or PS5 if you wanted to differentiate it from the Red Squadron some more.
We have half if not more of them already in the game.
Luke
Wedge
Tycho
Wes
Garven
Corran
And Hobbie
let's not forget ol Jek Porkins!!!
Not to nitpick, but Garven Dreis and Jek Porkins were both Red Squadron pilots, not Rogue. In the aftermath of the Battle of Yavin, Luke and Wedge specifically retired Red squadron to honor the sacrifice of the pilots who flew that day. They created Rogue Squadron as a result of this. While Jek and Garven may have been honorary members, they weren't Rogues.
On a side note, I think it would be a HUGE seller if they had an Aces pack that was an X-Wing and a TIE Intercepter with a Rogue Squadron/181st antagonist theme.
An xwing TIE fighter Aces set would be interesting. There has been enough love for the interceptors.
Rogue Squadron?
And what, make the E-wing useless, just like in the EU, despite the fact that a multi-role fighter cannot remain viable for more than 30 years in a modern military force? Which was only done because some EU writers threw a hissy fit about the X-Wing being replaced?
Bah!
Rogue Squadron would have been fine, if not for the fact that the X-Wing already has twice the options of most ships, and that goes for the TIE Fighter too.
Now that the B-Wing (for some odd reason!) and the A-Wing have gotten love, it's time for the Y-Wing and TIE Advanced.
SERIOUSLY need to get the TIE Advanced working.
Rogue Squadron used lots of different ships, didn't it? So while I think a title card is on the right track, it wouldn't make sense to limit it to just X-Wings.
The Rogue Squadron title should be playable on any non-unique Rebel small-base ship that's PS3 or higher. I don't know what it would give, though ... maybe an EPT slot?
Using the Squadron designations as Title cards instead of generic pilot cards is something I hope they implement. Giving a title ability that adds a mod slot, increases pilot skill, adds a EPT or allows for a unique maneuver on the Action bar are all really cool things to give a group of pilots the feel of having a common theme - which is really what squadrons are about.
Rogue Squadron?
And what, make the E-wing useless, just like in the EU, despite the fact that a multi-role fighter cannot remain viable for more than 30 years in a modern military force? Which was only done because some EU writers threw a hissy fit about the X-Wing being replaced?
Bah!
Rogue Squadron would have been fine, if not for the fact that the X-Wing already has twice the options of most ships, and that goes for the TIE Fighter too.
Now that the B-Wing (for some odd reason!) and the A-Wing have gotten love, it's time for the Y-Wing and TIE Advanced.
SERIOUSLY need to get the TIE Advanced working.
I think everyone would agree that the TIE Advanced and probably Y-Wing are most in need of some attention from a game design perspective but I enjoy the theme as well as the function and it remains a surprise to me that FFG haven't leveraged this part of the EU.
Some kind of Rogue v 181st campaign box could get fan juices flowing, introduce game mechanics of pairing certain existing pilots into wings and potentially introduce the next TIE advanced and a stealth X-wing.... maybe a few birds could be killed with a Rogue shaped stone.
Edited by simple31Rogue Squadron used lots of different ships, didn't it? So while I think a title card is on the right track, it wouldn't make sense to limit it to just X-Wings.
The Rogue Squadron title should be playable on any non-unique Rebel small-base ship that's PS3 or higher. I don't know what it would give, though ... maybe an EPT slot?
Only in the Rogue Squadron video game series for the N64/Gamecube. I'm pretty sure otherwise they're strictly an X-wing outfit aside from a brief stint in E-wings.
Rogue Squadron?
And what, make the E-wing useless, just like in the EU, despite the fact that a multi-role fighter cannot remain viable for more than 30 years in a modern military force? Which was only done because some EU writers threw a hissy fit about the X-Wing being replaced?
Bah!
Rogue Squadron would have been fine, if not for the fact that the X-Wing already has twice the options of most ships, and that goes for the TIE Fighter too.
Now that the B-Wing (for some odd reason!) and the A-Wing have gotten love, it's time for the Y-Wing and TIE Advanced.
SERIOUSLY need to get the TIE Advanced working.
I think everyone would agree that the TIE Advanced and probably Y-Wing are most in need of some attention from a game design perspective but I enjoy the theme as well as the function and it remains a surprise to me that FFG haven't leveraged this part of the EU.
Some kind of Rogue v 181st campaign box could get fan juices flowing, introduce game mechanics of pairing certain existing pilots into wings and potentially introduce the next TIE advanced and a stealth X-wing.... maybe a few birds could be killed with a Rogue shaped stone.
See, that I'd support but... We'd need a reason. I can't see it doing more than offering new paintjobs, new card art, and so on.
Rogue Squadron used lots of different ships, didn't it? So while I think a title card is on the right track, it wouldn't make sense to limit it to just X-Wings.
The Rogue Squadron title should be playable on any non-unique Rebel small-base ship that's PS3 or higher. I don't know what it would give, though ... maybe an EPT slot?
Only in the Rogue Squadron video game series for the N64/Gamecube. I'm pretty sure otherwise they're strictly an X-wing outfit aside from a brief stint in E-wings.
In one of the X-Wing books they flew Z-95s on Coruscant....but then again, that was only about half of the squadron flying at the time.