What fantasy flight games should do for Wave 6 is add more variants of the existing ship.

By devotedknight, in X-Wing

What fantasy flight games should do for Wave 6 is add more variants of the existing ships.

The game is “X-Wing” and each “Wave" is getting away from the main theme, (in my humble opinion.) Fantasy Flight should add more variants of the existing ships. This happens for real in every Air force. Take example of the B-52, there are 12 different variants of this aircraft alone, each one modified and upgrade with new technology.

The dial for these ships would not change, but there should be slight differences in the technology for each variant. This could give all players a new twist and still keep the flavor of X-Wing. (As well as letting the player, keep playing their favorite ships!)

For examples, here are some Tie Fighter Variants;

Tie Fighter equipped with an Auto Blaster as standard issue.

Tie Fighter equipped with a targeting computer as standard issue, and still gets a Modification upgrade. This makes perfect sense, since each “New Model” of Tie Fight is upgraded on the assemble line.

Here are some examples of Tie Bomber Variants.

Variant A removes two torpedo slots and replaces them with second bomb slot and a crew slot. ( I would keep the missile slot just because of the variety of the ordinance.)

Variant B removes two torpedo slots and replaces one with a cannon slot, and the other with a tail gunner, (In effect, having the same firing arcs as a Fire Spray, Forward and Aft)

Variant C become and EW (Electronic Warfare) Version. Remove two torpedo slots and the bomb slot. Add two System upgrade slot and a crew slot. (With the ability to pass Target Locks! Because that is what EW Vessels do!)

Every ship in the game could get several variants.

Fantasy Flight could package in a box the same size as the core game. ADDING pilots to every existing ships, as well as pilots of the variants. And each upgrade could come with several models, (Same model you already have, but with a different paint jobs.)

Edited by devotedknight

There are mechanisms for this already in the form of titles and modifications AND the Aces line. I would much rather see variant pilots or pilots on different ships before the same ship being released as the next wave.

I think not. Maybe some new pilots and sculpts for old ships. Maybe even a different statline for some (see the Tie Avenger) I'm fully expecting Wave 6 to be reprints of the wave 1 ships with new pilots, titles, and the like. Which is a bummer because I own 4 X-wings and 6 Tie fighters, I don't need more.(Although I own 1 Advanced and one Y-wing and would love to see a new Turret upgrade.)

You are looking at the Aces type products. We will continue to get those along with new ship Waves.

There are mechanisms for this already in the form of titles and modifications AND the Aces line. I would much rather see variant pilots or pilots on different ships before the same ship being released as the next wave.

These title and modification only go so far, not really a true variant. Though I am talking about new Pilot cards, not new models. Maybe a small box that has the cards, and the figure counters.

As I stated, just my humble opinion. :-)

Really, because some of your suggestions sound exactly like some of the titles, modifications, and other upgrades we are getting.

Aces are fine, but a whole wave of nothing more then reprints of existing ships with new pilots... No thanks.

We got new Interceptor pilots with the Imperial Aces, new X-Wing pilots with the transport, and we're getting new A-Wing and B-Wing pilots with the Rebel Aces. Stands to reason other ships will be getting the same treatment somewhere down the line.

New paint jobs would be nice.

Or Rogue Squadron markings.

Really, because some of your suggestions sound exactly like some of the titles, modifications, and other upgrades we are getting.

It all good! :-) As the game stands now, there is no way, (That I know of.), to add an autocannon to a Tie Fighter. Or change the Slots in a Bomber and add a cannon. How about an X-Wing that can fire missiles? A variant is just changes to a ship that are out side of the game mechanics. It’s like buying a Van and all you get to do is change the tires or the radio. Really, You don’t need new models, all these change go on the pilot cards. Though I don’t think that Fantasy Flight is just going to just print out a deck of Pilot cards, and call them “Pilots of the Empire!” or “Pilots of the Rebellion!”.

So what would you like to see?

An A-Wing that can drop bombs!

But if FFG decide they want to be able yo do that, adding mods and titles that make it happen is how they would do it.

A Lambda shuttle painted as a 60's Van! With peace symbols. Though that's not really a Variant!

Given the amount of customization already available, I don't know that this is really needed. Assuming Wave 5 is just those 2 large ships, the next releases should be huge Imperials and "fixes" for the weaker ships, namely the TIE Advanced and HWK. Some people really want Y-wing and Bomber upgrades, but those ships' problems are secondary to the Advanced and HWK, which get virtually no play. I see Ys and Bombers fairly consistently, so they must have some roles.

Yeah variants are already heavily covered by being able to customize each ship with a chosen pilot, astromech droid, missiles, bombs, torpedoes, etc. We have all the variants and customization there needs to be for current ships. We will definitely continue to see “Aces” packs containing new stuff (which is awesome) but there won’t be a just a reprint wave.

I wouldn’t mind seeing random booster packs of new pilot/ship, upgrades, modifications and crew cards though, i think that would be a cool way to expand.

Given the amount of customization already available, I don't know that this is really needed. Assuming Wave 5 is just those 2 large ships, the next releases should be huge Imperials and "fixes" for the weaker ships, namely the TIE Advanced and HWK. Some people really want Y-wing and Bomber upgrades, but those ships' problems are secondary to the Advanced and HWK, which get virtually no play. I see Ys and Bombers fairly consistently, so they must have some roles.

The Hawk sees no play for reasons totally outside its playability. It's a great ship with amazing named pilots. That and a Boost to the Y-wing provides options for both the Hawk and Y-wing. The Advanced does need more help though. For sure.

Yeah variants are already heavily covered by being able to customize each ship with a chosen pilot, astromech droid, missiles, bombs, torpedoes, etc. We have all the variants and customization there needs to be for current ships. We will definitely continue to see “Aces” packs containing new stuff (which is awesome) but there won’t be a just a reprint wave.

I wouldn’t mind seeing random booster packs of new pilot/ship, upgrades, modifications and crew cards though, i think that would be a cool way to expand.

Thank You! That is exactly my point. I wouldn’t mind seeing random booster packs of new pilot/ship, upgrades, modifications and crew cards either. All you need is the “Pilot cards” and the “Ship Tokens”. The Variant is printed on the “Pilot cards” and the “Ship Tokens”. All I am talking about is changing the Upgrade bar on the Pilot card, and the Pilot’s Ability. You do not need new models at all. But do you think that Fantasy Flight will just print out a booster pack?

Yeah variants are already heavily covered by being able to customize each ship with a chosen pilot, astromech droid, missiles, bombs, torpedoes, etc. We have all the variants and customization there needs to be for current ships. We will definitely continue to see “Aces” packs containing new stuff (which is awesome) but there won’t be a just a reprint wave.

I wouldn’t mind seeing random booster packs of new pilot/ship, upgrades, modifications and crew cards though, i think that would be a cool way to expand.

Not for a while. Right now it is far more profitable for then to keep cranking out more miniatures. Later, when the game's rather insane growth starts to level off we may start seeing some card only expansions.

Never mind. I was wrong.

Edited by Forgottenlore

No. No random boosters. Never ever ever.

No one said anything at all about random boosters.

So he did. My bad and I apologize.

In that case, yeah. No randomized anything. Shudder!!!

Edited by Forgottenlore

So he did. My bad and I apologize.

In that case, yeah. No randomized anything. Shudder!!!

:P

No random booster packs, ever. If I wanted to scramble about looking for a single card I would play magic. But defined booster packs, yes. I don't think we'll see them for a while though.