Tech Talk: Death

By MegaGeese, in UFS General Discussion

quarzark said:

A card with Selfless Giving's stats and an ability actually worth a **** would be amazing.

FALCON PUNCH

That card is amazing. It won me the Yunseong mirror in the Void event, and after I persuaded Hughes to run it in his Donovan deck it won him at least one game by letting him draw into the game-saving Rejection.

Adoration and Brooding aren't terrible either

Wafflecopter said:

So anyway, game design talk aside...

What are you guys' thoughts on Huge Wrestling Army? It's as good as staple in any 6HS-or-Hugo earth-death character {Rashotep?} imho, and I've seen it included in a few 7HS aggro decks before Set 12 hit {Zi Mei and Donovan to be specific} as a spam foundation that let the deck run slightly more attacks while still getting a fairly good spill going on earlygame. It's obviously major Mentoring bait if your opponent can get through Oral Dead and whatnot, and the 4cc/no block aren't anything good either. But it's card advantage, and I know I've used it in Earth decks to put the last little bit of damage for a OHK.

Bah...useless foundation is useless. The damage pump is...cute at most, and Death, believe it or not, has better draw options. It just seems like a useless foundation, and I hate running cards just for stats.

The only time I've seen use for it was in my Death *Zi Mei* because she needed to draw absolutely as much as possible, and in the final build, I think Hugo's LOLariat ended up being enough.

MarcoPulleaux said:

Wafflecopter said:

So anyway, game design talk aside...

What are you guys' thoughts on Huge Wrestling Army? It's as good as staple in any 6HS-or-Hugo earth-death character {Rashotep?} imho, and I've seen it included in a few 7HS aggro decks before Set 12 hit {Zi Mei and Donovan to be specific} as a spam foundation that let the deck run slightly more attacks while still getting a fairly good spill going on earlygame. It's obviously major Mentoring bait if your opponent can get through Oral Dead and whatnot, and the 4cc/no block aren't anything good either. But it's card advantage, and I know I've used it in Earth decks to put the last little bit of damage for a OHK.

Bah...useless foundation is useless. The damage pump is...cute at most, and Death, believe it or not, has better draw options. It just seems like a useless foundation, and I hate running cards just for stats.

The only time I've seen use for it was in my Death *Zi Mei* because she needed to draw absolutely as much as possible, and in the final build, I think Hugo's LOLariat ended up being enough.

I simply don't understand what about Huge Wrestling Army is good...if anything about it is supposed to be good. It's use is EXTREMELY limited. 1/4 isn't justified. It should have been a 0/5, and only had the static effect. Hulking Brute is far better for a death deck than is Huge Wrestling Army.

I'd say that with Path Of The Master legal, Death's power will rise exponentially. This is because of the number of resource abilities that Death cards have. Examples of these include No Memories, Scroll from the Abyss, Begin Anew, and even Psycho Crusher EXTRA. Althought the two I would consider to benefit from Path Of The Master's existence most are Hugo's two foundations; Huge Wrestling Army and Hulking Brute. This is because with Path Of The Master out, they solve both of Deaths' major problems, Draw power and Damage boosts.

Consider this: I'm playing Nightmare, attacking with M. Bison's Fierce Punch, which allows me to draw a card whenever I negate or destroy something. I use Huge Wrestling Army's damage boosts because Path Of The Master allows me to do that while drawing a card at the same time each time I do so. After the Fierce Punch is finished (if it has hit, respond with Nightmare to destroy and draw another card). Then start Olcadan's/Corrupting Force-ing to draw even more cards, then if you have nothing else to use, use Hulking Brute to draw another final two cards after your foundation spam.

This means that Nightmare through a fairly simple string of cards (none of which are used as widely as others either) gives you a serious draw engine that both controls the field and damages your opponent quite harshly, and I haven't even mentioned the Enhance on Path Of The Master itself.

I think Spinning Beat's Death enhance will look a lot more tasty with PotM out.

Cascade said:

guitalex2008 said:

If 6 checks were the only reason to run a symbol, no one would run anything except Air.

Not only that but a playset of Chester's Backing, Soul of Ling Sheng Su, Nine Lives, End it All, Infected, Return to Southtown, Mark of the Wolf, Black Magic, Blinding Rage, Excitable, Makai High Noble,Olcadan's Mentoring, Lynette's Shop, Feline Spike, Ira Spinta would be the only Air deck in existence.

No Lord of the Makai? Interesting choice.

lol Maybe I'm trying to block its existence from my mind. I suppose Black Magic can be taken out because it has the same stats and a +1M block lol

...Why do I suddenly want to build this deck?