Expecting Phantoms, I ran the Ghostbusters:

Roark+Ion

Blue+Ion

Blue

E-wing + R3-A2

Game 1: Whisper+VI+FCS+ACD and Howlrunner+Stealth+Swarm + 3 AP

Whisper got caught by the stress droid and ioned, as did Howlrunner on the initial pass.

Both died on the following turn and mopped up the ties.

Game 2: BH+Seismic BH+Seismic, Turr phenir+VI+Stealth device

Turr got caught by the stress droid and got one- shotted at range 3.

Ioned one BH off the board and killed the other.

Game 3: Jonus, 3xScimitar with Cluster and Assault missiles

B-Wings got crushed by the cluster missile spam, E-wing and roark fought on bravely but died eventually. First loss in the tourney.

Game 4. Blue HLC, Knave R3-A2, Blount Assault Missiles, and Roark with no turret. (!)

E-Wing turned their flank while Blues jousted their E-Wing and Blount. HLC turned to face E-Wing and got ioned off the board, mopped up afterward.

Game 5: Chewbacca+VI (?) Gunner +C3PO+Title, 4 Bandits.

I caught Chewbacca as he came in for a perfect broadside from my team. Ioned but forgot to stress.

Chewbacca escaped on 1 hp, Bandits came in and killed Roark and B-Wing.

Narrow loss which came down to a single range 1 shot on Chewbacca, with reroll, which I fluffed.

Game 6: Whisper+IntAgent+ACD+VI, Echo+VI+ACD+Recon Spec, Royal PTL

Caught Echo with a stress shot and ioned him. The same to Whisper in turn two.

Interceptor got ioned the following turn and it was over.

4-2 and my strength of schedule was enough to get me into the quarter final as top 6.

I was to play the Chewbacca + 4x Bandits again. The list is piloted by a new player with less than

two weeks experience. Having recalculated my strategy I kite and take him out by splitting the Falcon and the Bandits, and defeating in detail. The Bandits come in early and I take two out, and then stress and ion the Falcon so it’s heading towards the board edge. Play continues and I lose a B-Wing.

Falcon is ioned and heading off the board next turn. Two Bandits on 1 HP each, one stranded on a rock

and one about to hit another asteroid, both facing the wrong way. I have a full hp B-Wing and a full hp E-Wing with clear shots. Time is called, but he finishes the last shot, killing Roark and netting him the win onpoints.

It was a pretty frustrating loss, to say the least, compounded by the fact that he insisted once time started in making sure I had two of each correct card in my damage deck by laying them out of the table. Being a new player as well I had to explain what ion tokens did and a lot of basics throughout the game,

further sapping time. The player knew he lost fair and square and offered to let me pass through instead

to the semis but I declined.

In retrospect I should have just requested a final turn as the other players were still going on but I wanted to play by the rules.

He went on to win the semi-final against the store champion and the final against

another Chewbacca+3Tala list.

An unsatisfactory result, by any measure. The better pilot didn’t win; it was a victory based on pure luck. The final wasn’t representative of pilot skill, it was just a dice spam game with the winner having better dice. The remaining spectators got so bored of the game most people wandered off to have supper instead. I’ve now experienced X-Wing at it’s worst.

Somehow this went from being an interesting report to a sob story about bad luck. I can empathize, but I certainly don't sympathize.

I think what we can take out of this is that the TIE Phantom is clearly OP and Advanced Cloaking Device should be banned ASAP.

Oh wait

Somehow this went from being an interesting report to a sob story about bad luck. I can empathize, but I certainly don't sympathize.

Actually it's a sob story about how you don't actually need piloting skill, good theory or experience to win a Regional X-Wing tournament, just pure luck.

I think the main issue here is that it was a timed match. If it wasn't I'm pretty sure that you'd have won the quarter finals.

The dice can be fickle but despite that you did pretty well. Just keep at it. You're a good pilot.

Somehow this went from being an interesting report to a sob story about bad luck. I can empathize, but I certainly don't sympathize.

Actually it's a sob story about how you don't actually need piloting skill, good theory or experience to win a Regional X-Wing tournament, just pure luck.

Actually seeing as he beat you twice and went on to win I think he was clearly the better player.

You are pretty much winning the "poorest loser" achievement. Either you learn from mistakes you made and improve or continue to moan about how hard done by you are and continue to lose. Your call.

To be fair, an opponent insisting on spending time on counting damage cards should be guilty of stalling and at least get extra time awarded for the match. Losing because your opponent wasted a bunch of time and you couldn't finish the match is not fun.

To be fair, an opponent insisting on spending time on counting damage cards should be guilty of stalling and at least get extra time awarded for the match. Losing because your opponent wasted a bunch of time and you couldn't finish the match is not fun.

Would you say it was unsportsmanlike?

Would you say it was unsportsmanlike?

No, I'd say something to you that would get me banned from the forum. Now go back under your bridge and let the reasonable people have a discussion.

... and let the reasonable people have a discussion.

This really made my night. Thank you.

To be fair, an opponent insisting on spending time on counting damage cards should be guilty of stalling and at least get extra time awarded for the match. Losing because your opponent wasted a bunch of time and you couldn't finish the match is not fun.

Tournament rules permit a player to validate their opponent's Damage deck as part of the prematch procedure.

All I can take out of the OP is bitterness from losing to a newer player with a swarm style build. It starts off when he loses a game against a Bomber list, although honestly I'd be suprised if the Bomber pilot led off with Concussion Missiles because I would think that Assault Missiles are better for an opening volley because of the AoE effect.

The OP lost the first time, his opponent even offers to concede in the rematch but OP declines and ends up losing. His/her opponent ends up winning the whole thing and you still have the gall to say that the better pilot didn't win?

That's pretty **** disappointing, I'd hate to be your opponent.

To be fair, an opponent insisting on spending time on counting damage cards should be guilty of stalling and at least get extra time awarded for the match. Losing because your opponent wasted a bunch of time and you couldn't finish the match is not fun.

Tournament rules permit a player to validate their opponent's Damage deck as part of the prematch procedure.

Yeah, but those same rules clearly state that as being something generally done before the start of the round time. Without going into the rest of what the OP is speaking of, I have to be honest and say it sounds to me like someone was trying to eat up time here. Though it does leave me with some questions, the chief among this being did that same opponent do that to every other player? Did he do it in your first game? Did you have to explain the Ion thing to him in that first game?

You should had insisted that if he wanted to do that after the clock started, that a judge should be the one counting cards to not lose any time, or give you extra time that it will take. To be honest, sometimes you need to be the one saying no, it doesn't matter if it is not ill intentioned on his part, but what is really fair.

Anyways, congrats on the good results, and i can feel you for that kind of anti climatic ending.

The OP has not given enough details to determine how much time there was for completing the prematch procedure. If little time was given, then his opponent has the right, at the start of the match, to validate the Damage deck in a timely manner.

The OP was under no obligation to explain how ion tokens worked. It was the Top 8 of Regionals Tournament, played using Premier Rules. His opponent should know the game's rules.

The OP could have called the TO and explained that his opponent's lack of understanding was not helping to progress the game at a reasonable pace.

'Fly Casual' does not apply to teaching your opponent the rules in the Top 8 of a Premier Rules level tournament.

To be fair, an opponent insisting on spending time on counting damage cards should be guilty of stalling and at least get extra time awarded for the match. Losing because your opponent wasted a bunch of time and you couldn't finish the match is not fun.

Tournament rules permit a player to validate their opponent's Damage deck as part of the prematch procedure.

Yeah, but those same rules clearly state that as being something generally done before the start of the round time. Without going into the rest of what the OP is speaking of, I have to be honest and say it sounds to me like someone was trying to eat up time here. Though it does leave me with some questions, the chief among this being did that same opponent do that to every other player? Did he do it in your first game? Did you have to explain the Ion thing to him in that first game?

I played against him twice on that day(2nd round of swiss and finals). Both times we had a good match and I didn't notice any shenanigans from him. I was occupied with another game when the OP was flying against the new guy in the quarter finals so I didn't witness what went down between the two of them. Could be some sort of misunderstanding, I don't know.

At the same time, your semi final opponent wanted to sock him in the jaw during his swiss match against him

Would you say it was unsportsmanlike?

No, I'd say something to you that would get me banned from the forum. Now go back under your bridge and let the reasonable people have a discussion.

Can't ...breath...too funny..

At the same time, your semi final opponent wanted to sock him in the jaw during his swiss match against him

I wasn't aware of it. So what did he do exactly?

When time is called at an event you are supposed to finish off the round. It's not hockey "stop time" but more like soccer "it will end when it's suppose to end time."

If you are not sure if you can finish the round, ask your T.O.

Would you say it was unsportsmanlike?

No, I'd say something to you that would get me banned from the forum. Now go back under your bridge and let the reasonable people have a discussion.

From my experience reading your post, you have taken perminate residence under that bridge.

At the same time, your semi final opponent wanted to sock him in the jaw during his swiss match against him

I wasn't aware of it. So what did he do exactly?

just being annoying in general. He's insisting on a lot of peculiar game rules and interactions, but does not understand the "whys" behind them. Also, him being a completely new player doesnt help when he is insisting that more experienced players bend over to follow his whims and demands

basically just the way he presents himself i suppose. I was very pissed too when he went "you may move your ship now". I flipped over my Shuttle's dial and snapped back "no I'm not moving", and the way he offered his slot to the OP I felt was carried out in an extremely insulting manner too

The tournament environment encourages good sportmanship but permits a bit of psychology and meta-gaming.

If a veteran wants to pretend to be a new player and is a little bit of an arse to put his opponents on tilt, that's part and parcel of the experience.

If you have a problem with a player, you should report it to the tournamemt judge.

Edit: The take home lesson is that never assume a 'newb' is a genuine newb, and always play your best game. He's also probably a really nice guy when he's not trying to win.

At the same time, your semi final opponent wanted to sock him in the jaw during his swiss match against him

I wasn't aware of it. So what did he do exactly?

just being annoying in general. He's insisting on a lot of peculiar game rules and interactions, but does not understand the "whys" behind them. Also, him being a completely new player doesnt help when he is insisting that more experienced players bend over to follow his whims and demands

basically just the way he presents himself i suppose. I was very pissed too when he went "you may move your ship now". I flipped over my Shuttle's dial and snapped back "no I'm not moving", and the way he offered his slot to the OP I felt was carried out in an extremely insulting manner too

Hmm...interesting. I didn't experience any of that. Maybe cuz I flew a very similar list to his and he didn't need to drill me with his questions. Probably its just the way he carries himself like you said.

Somehow this went from being an interesting report to a sob story about bad luck. I can empathize, but I certainly don't sympathize.

Actually it's a sob story about how you don't actually need piloting skill, good theory or experience to win a Regional X-Wing tournament, just pure luck.

Actually seeing as he beat you twice and went on to win I think he was clearly the better player.

You are pretty much winning the "poorest loser" achievement. Either you learn from mistakes you made and improve or continue to moan about how hard done by you are and continue to lose. Your call.

The first game was lost when I rolled a range 1 shot from a B-Wing with Target Lock and an Ion Turret attack from a HWK with focus onto a 1 hp Falcon and failed to kill him. In any case, that game isn't the issue here. The game in question here is the quarter-final, which I would have won if the game had one turn more to go. I outflew him hard in both games. It came down to luck in the first and the time call in the second.

If I made mistakes, they were flying too casual and letting him change dial after he revealed a Z-95 dial instead of a YT-1300 dial; Letting him change targets to the 'correct' B-Wing after he had rolled attack and I had rolled defence dice; Allowing to him to make sure I had two of each crit card and seven Direct Hits after timing began, and not keeping track of time and playing for the full win instead of the points win.

Most importantly, he forgot to place his dial for his Falcon in one movement phase and declared he was ready. We only noticed at the PS 7 movement phase. (He was running VI on Chewbacca. Why? God knows.)

From the FAQ:

If a player forgets to place a maneuver dial next to a ship, but tells his opponent he is ready to begin the round, once play has proceeded to the first ship (a dial has been revealed, a maneuver has been executed, etc.), he may no longer place a dial. Instead, when that ship activates, the player’s opponent chooses the maneuver that ship will perform. No actions may be taken before this maneuver, but play proceeds normally after the maneuver has been executed.

I could have easily put a 4 forward which would have taken him off the board. He claimed he wasn't familiar with large ship ion rules (which was strange as I ioned his Falcon in the previous game we had) but it would be extremely douchey to do so, and I wanted to win on my own merits, so I let him place a dial.

To be fair, an opponent insisting on spending time on counting damage cards should be guilty of stalling and at least get extra time awarded for the match. Losing because your opponent wasted a bunch of time and you couldn't finish the match is not fun.

I don't think he was stalling intentionally, he was just new to the game and didn't realise the importance of setting up swiftly to avoid a timeout. This aspect is definitely my complaint; It is extremely frustrating to outfly your opponent and crush them but lose to a timeout or technicality.

To be fair, an opponent insisting on spending time on counting damage cards should be guilty of stalling and at least get extra time awarded for the match. Losing because your opponent wasted a bunch of time and you couldn't finish the match is not fun.

Tournament rules permit a player to validate their opponent's Damage deck as part of the prematch procedure.

He had ample time to check my damage deck and set up his cards before time began; he chose to unpack and make sure two of each crit card was there after timing began. People were into their second round when we were setting up asteroids.

All I can take out of the OP is bitterness from losing to a newer player with a swarm style build. It starts off when he loses a game against a Bomber list, although honestly I'd be suprised if the Bomber pilot led off with Concussion Missiles because I would think that Assault Missiles are better for an opening volley because of the AoE effect.

The OP lost the first time, his opponent even offers to concede in the rematch but OP declines and ends up losing. His/her opponent ends up winning the whole thing and you still have the gall to say that the better pilot didn't win?

That's pretty **** disappointing, I'd hate to be your opponent.

The build was Cluster and Assault missiles. I admit I lost that one due to poor piloting and general ignorance from having never played against a bomber swarm. I didn't lose the game in the final, I could have won it on the dial mistake and would have won it if we had just one more round (and spent time playing instead of stalling.)

He didn't offer to concede the rematch. He offered to concede after admitting I won, but I declined.

The better pilot may not have won, but timing and sportsmanship did.

The semi-Final was lost due to overthinking by his opponent (sorry V) and poor target priority, but it was a clear loss. The final was between two similar lists that everyone got bored of watching; it was hardly the tense showdown the final should have been and it came down to better rolls (his opponent in the final beat him in the Swiss.)

You would far prefer to be my opponent than have him as yours, I think.