Col Vessery

By dukewolf, in X-Wing Rules Questions

I am having trouble figuring out that Col Vessery's skiill does.

When attacking, immediately after you roll attack dice, you may acquire a target lock on the defender if it already has a red target lock token

Best I can figure is the following scenario.

Shuttle with the title gets a target lock on target "Q". Col Vessary then declares "Q" as a target and roles dice. Now because there is a red TL icon on "Q" Vessary gets a target lock on "Q", and because it happens immediately after he roles the dice I can use them on that attack. is this correct? Or am I reading it wrong?

That's correct.

Vessery requires a buddy who already has a TL on the target. He does not like to fly with TIE Fighters or Interceptors.

He does not like to fly with TIE Fighters or Interceptors.

...unless they have a Targeting Computer.

:)

Please clarify: Vessery can USE that target lock on the roll he acquired it!?! If that is correct, that is AWESOME!

Indeed he can. He rools his dice, then he immediatley recives his TL and then he procede to the modify attack dice step where he can spend his TL.

1. Another ship target locks an enemy.

2. Col is in range to attack.

3. Rolls dice.

4. Gets TL from the friendly ship.

5. Can then reroll the dice.

Is that it? I've just got a Defender and I've been confused by that card too.

Is the TL taken from the friend after the roll, or does the friendly keep his TL and Col gains his own fresh TL to use?

Is the TL taken from the friend after the roll, or does the friendly keep his TL and Col gains his own fresh TL to use?

Friend keeps his, Vessery gets a fresh one

1. Another ship target locks an enemy.

2. Col is in range to attack.

3. Rolls dice.

4. Gets TL from the friendly ship.

5. Can then reroll the dice.

Is that it? I've just got a Defender and I've been confused by that card too.

Is the TL taken from the friend after the roll, or does the friendly keep his TL and Col gains his own fresh TL to use?

Yes, that's the sequence of events, and no, it's not taken from the friendly. The friendly's free to use his TL him/herself.

EDIT: Dang it, Ninja'd.

Edited by DR4CO

Thanks guys!

So you could do an action (say a focus), knowing the enemy already has a TL from your other ship, then roll your dice, turn up your focus results, and use the TL you just got for free to reroll the other dice that didn't come up good?

Yes, but it's better to use the targetlock before the focus incase some of the rerols allso turns up eyeballs.

Yes, but it's better to use the targetlock before the focus incase some of the rerols allso turns up eyeballs.

Focus>Roll>Free TL to reroll rubbish dice>Focus any eyeballs.

Wow.

Does immediately after you roll attack dice also include rerolls?

Again assuming target "Q" has a red target lock token on it from another ship and Vessery rolls attack dice, gets a TL and spends the TL to reroll dice. Will he get another target lock? Obviously he cannot reroll dice that have been rerolled however I am just wondering if he would not lose the target lock since "Q" has a red target lock token on it.

Thanks in advanced

Does immediately after you roll attack dice also include rerolls?

No. Using the HLC ruling for precedent, rerolls don't count as rolling dice.

Yeah, I know, I know... but them's the rules.

Does immediately after you roll attack dice also include rerolls?

No. Using the HLC ruling for precedent, rerolls don't count as rolling dice.

Yeah, I know, I know... but them's the rules.

Ah yes perfect precedent :) Thanks Buhallin

Actually roll the dice and use target lock on the non hit and non eyeballs first. Then use focus.

Actually roll the dice and use target lock on the non hit and non eyeballs first. Then use focus.

There are actually situations where it's best to leave the eyeballs alone. There's always the chance that they'll come up as blanks, so if you won't be using or can live without the Focus for defence, or really really want the target to die, it can be better to go all-out for damage and only reroll the blanks.

Edited by DR4CO

Actually roll the dice and use target lock on the non hit and non eyeballs first. Then use focus.

There are actually situations where it's best to leave the eyeballs alone. There's always the chance that they'll come up as blanks, so if you won't be using or can live without the Focus for defence, or really really want the target to die, it can be better to go all-out for damage and only reroll the blanks.

That's pretty much what he said. "non hit and non eyeballs" pretty much just leaves blanks, unless he meant crits and blanks, but I doubt he meant that

Actually roll the dice and use target lock on the non hit and non eyeballs first. Then use focus.

There are actually situations where it's best to leave the eyeballs alone. There's always the chance that they'll come up as blanks, so if you won't be using or can live without the Focus for defence, or really really want the target to die, it can be better to go all-out for damage and only reroll the blanks.

That's pretty much what he said. "non hit and non eyeballs" pretty much just leaves blanks, unless he meant crits and blanks, but I doubt he meant that

Indeed. I could of sworn it said just non-hits when I first read it.

Oh well. My apologies, Clayjar.

When it says "acquire a target lock" is it an action ? I assume not. Basically I just want to check it still works when he's stressed.

It's on page 4 of the FAQ and you can acquire the target lock since it's not perform a target lock action

Acquiring A Ta rget lock

When an ability instructs you to acquire a target lock, this is different than performing an ‘acquire a target lock’ action. It is possible to acquire a target lock while stressed, and a ship can acquire a target lock multiple times during the same round. A ship can only perform one ‘acquire a target lock’ action per round.

Each ship is able to maintain one target lock, unless stated otherwise by a game effect.

When it says "acquire a target lock" is it an action ? I assume not. Basically I just want to check it still works when he's stressed.

As I found yesterday, it also means you're free to use the ability even if you get hit by the critical that prevents you using any actions in your action bar.

With the new tie/d card, if vessary were to fire a secondary canon weapon and spend the target lock he just acquired from that to improve his roll, would he be able to get a second one with his second attack?

1 minute ago, Kevin the Noob7 said:

With the new tie/d card, if vessary were to fire a secondary canon weapon and spend the target lock he just acquired from that to improve his roll, would he be able to get a second one with his second attack?

Yes