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Who do you think has the largest impact on the game? To be perfectly honest I don't even think it's a competition. Colour has much greater impact. If you ignore Dhole, nothing really happens, and also he's pretty easy to evade. Colour, on the other hand... evade him all you want but sooner or later he's gonna eat a lot of sanity. Now, if the Colour was super easy to kill I would say Dhole is stronger, but it's not like Colour is your average Cultist... What do you say?

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Hmm. Good one! Dhole is clearly harder to evade, and much harder to kill. However I can usually just avoid the Dhole all game, but the Color out of Space smacks us from across the boards.

If you're asking which one makes my heart sink more when it's pulled out of the bag, it's the Colour.

But I have to ask--if you thought hands-down that the Colour had a bigger impact, why didn't you pick another monster that had an equal impact on the game? Doesn't seem like a very balanced debate.

Because theo kept arguing with me on another thread that the dhole has greater imapct. I didn't agree with him (still don't) but because it's theo I thought he might see something I don't so I decided to bring this up to a debate. So far, seems I wasn't wrong.

Don't take this the wrong way, Kroen, but the point of your Great Debates may have dwindled somewhat if you're just using them to win an argument with another forum user.

However the Dhole is clearer worse. The Colour is nasty, but it's a hell of a lot less dangerous in combat than the Dhole, and in my view the difference is so significant that it makes up for a few lost Sanity points. You claim that unlike a Colour Out Of Space, a dangerous combat monster like the Dhole can just be ignored. I don't know how to answer that argument except to say that it's obviously not true. Monsters impede movement in and out of streets and locations, and if you let them accumulate they raise the Terror level. That's what all monsters do. The Dhole does it very very well.

Don't make this about you. If you don't like me opening this thread because you know you're in minority with this particular opinion, than deal with it. I personally have many opinions which most player wouldn't agree with me, but I take it with good spirit. To each his own, isn't that right? I didn't opened this thread to "win an argumen". I'm way past that age. I opened it to see if I can get more opinions to back your opinion and maybe it was I that was in minority. It's really nothing against you, so don't take it so personally.

I didn't mean it was about me, I thought it was about some user called "theo" who you mentioned!

The fact you're the reason I opened this thread doesn't make this thread about you. This thread is about Dhole vs. Colour, not you, with all the respect.

Ok I'm hugely confused now. I didn't think I WAS the reason you opened this thread!

When I said "you're just using them to win an argument with another forum user" I didn't mean me. I meant whoever "Theo" is. I was responding to the previous post, when you said you made the thread because "Theo kept arguing with me on another thread that the Dhole has greater impact". I assumed Theo was another forum user. Now I don't know what's going on.

I wasn't taking it personally. Unless I was inadvertantly taking it personally on behalf of someone else. Which is an idea that I find ontologically confusing.

You know what other monster I hate even slightly more than the Dhole? The Rat-Thing. It's the monster equivalent of losing your car keys.

What? theo is you...

Ohhh that explains it. Sorry, I thought you were talking about someone else! Where did calling me "Theo" come from? My name's meant to say "the Corinthian".

wow this thread just made me lose 3 sanity! arghghghgh

pittplayer said:

You gonna draw a Madness card or just go back to the Asylum with 1 San ?

thecorinthian said:

ooo that's right for some reason I thought your username starts with the letters "theo" but now I see it's "theco". Pardon me.

*steers this train of thought back towards the depot...*

It's a matter of the question being asked. Since the post is about which has a bigger impact on the game, I think that the Colour, in most circumstances, has that. Though the Colour will never, say, move into a Dunwich gate or significantly impede your movement, left unchecked it will result in lots of trips to the asylum.

If the question were which is harder to fight, I would say the Dhole and never look back. Being difficult to fight alone doesn't make him have the largest impact on the game, however. And the Star Vampire, while somewhat easier to fight, I would argue has a bigger impact on the game. In certain circumstances, though, the Dhole will be hugely problematic. Standing in the way of gates or rumours can be a huge problem, especially for a low sneak party. And putting him up in Dunwich is a thorn like no other.

I think, in most circumstances, I would prefer to see the Dhole over the Colour out of Space. But let's see what other people say.

In a game the other night I had a Colour on the board for six turns, and never saw a square movement symbol. Then I killed it with Daisy, using two clue tokens.

So I guess future experience might change my mind, but considering what I've seen so far, I'm much more frightened of the Dhole and the Star Vampire.

I agree with um... "Theo" and Caduceus, the Dhole is significantly more dangerous. I always wince when I draw a Dhole, I never do when I draw a Color.

Honestly, any given Color in one my games is only going to drain sanity about 1 or 2 times before we close Another Dimension or find someone to kill it. We usually play 4 investigators and one is normally in an OW, so we're looking at roughly 3-6 sanity tops (And a Color draining twice to get that 6 only happened once, they don't move a whole lot and when they do it's a 50% shot). Seeing how easy Sanity is to replenish, that's really not that big a deal. I've never had a Color lock one of my investigators into a location for several turns because it wouldn't go on its merry way (**** Dholes...).

Well Dholes are harder to evade, too. And they do move around, where the Colour will not.

The Star Vampire however will chase your hysterical investigator ass down to the dark alleys and mutilate you with interdimensional teeth.

So in a debate regarding which is worse, the Dhole or the Colour out of Space, the clear winner is the STAR VAMPIRE.

Tibs said:

Buh...Star Vamps...

Anyway, in my game experiences, while I dislike both, I would have to say the Dhole.

While the Colour is bloody annoying (especially since on eof our group is always Micheal) the Dhole has been more problematic. We usually remove the Colour via gate seal, and when we can't we let Mike beat on it. Sure he has to burn a clue or two on the horror check, but it can't actually hurt him past that.

The Dhole, on the other hand, is the bane of low-sneak investigators. It always seems to get between us and exactly where we want to go. Sure, we PROBABLY could sneak past it...but some of us would be knocked unconscious if they failed. And that uncertainty is enough to shake some of us. Not all of us roll lucky. The Dhole is a big pile of pain...one not easily trifled with.

Colour: Looks scary, a lot of my mates have nearly had hernias when seeing both immunities.

Dhole: Is scary, think ultra gory gribbly death.... not nice

I've alwyas feared the Dhole