CR90 primary weapon attacks

By simple31, in X-Wing Rules Questions

When somebody attacks the cr90, general consensus is that range is measured to the appropriate section i.e. base and insert to the blue line; section being the key word in rulebook.

If my understanding is correct the situation is different when attacking with the primary weapon, which is measured from the "base" not the section. So conceivably (and uniquely) the attacker and defender could be at different ranges.

Is this how everyone is interpreting?

cheers

If I remember correctly, you have to measure the range from the front section of the base and have just over a 270 degree arc with the primary weapon as the rules do not allow you to fire through the engine block, so anyone you would be attacking with the fore section would be at the same range to the fore of the ship. They can attack the rear of the cr90 at a lesser range than the bow, however.

I guess what I'm trying to draw out is the distinction between "section" and "base". So if a TIE is bearing down from the left rear but has a shot on the fore due to centre base test the attacking range would be measured to the blue line marking the start of the fore section. However when returning fire with the primary turret the cr90 would measure from the actual base as such making a longer shot.

I may be being overly literal here, so was looking to get the views of the wise and learned community!

Page 2: When that ship attacks with its turret primary weapon, it may target an enemy ship inside or outside its firing arc, and it measures range from the corresponding section’s base.


Emphasis in the original.


For secondaries which use the firing arcs, it's irrelevant - the line for range must be within the firing arc, which is effectively the base.

Buhallin, so you'd agree the defending ship when returning fire would measure to the section not the base?

Buhallin, so you'd agree the defending ship when returning fire would measure to the section not the base?

Yep:

The range of the attack is determined by the line measured from the closest point of the attacking ship to the closest point of the chosen huge ship’s section that is inside the attacking ship’s firing arc.
It can lead to mismatched ranges, but it's not the only thing in the game to do so. Turret weapons can easily have a shorter range to their target than that same target attacking back.

Maybe not entirely on topic, but it is not uncommon for ranges to differ between two ships attacking each other. Regardless of one ship being huge or not.

Imagine an x-wing traveling straight forward, and a TIE fighter coming in at 2 o'clock (more than 45 degrees)

when measuring from the TIE Fighter, the closest distance is directly from the ship front to the upper right corner of the x-wing. Imagine you are just inside Range 1. When measuring from the X-Wing however, you don't measure along the same line because it was outside the X-Wing firing arc. So you measure along the outer edge of the firing arc, and due to the angle of the TIE Fighter front, the distance is just outside Range 1.

But otherwise I believe the answer to your question had already been provided above.

Edited by StephenEsven

Okay I'm going ask a real dumb question.

When you say measure to or from a Huge Ships base. Is it the card and we are talking about different sections or that actual plastic base under the card? As I understand the "corresponding sections base" would refer to the plastic base under the card which has multiple sections.

Correct?

Okay I'm going ask a real dumb question.

When you say measure to or from a Huge Ships base. Is it the card and we are talking about different sections or that actual plastic base under the card? As I understand the "corresponding sections base" would refer to the plastic base under the card which has multiple sections.

Correct?

Correct. The base is referring to the plastic base under the cardboard piece.

When you say measure to or from a Huge Ships base. Is it the card and we are talking about different sections or that actual plastic base under the card? As I understand the "corresponding sections base" would refer to the plastic base under the card which has multiple sections.

If something tells you to measure to the base, then it's the plastic base underlying the ship marker.

But the only time you do that is for the primary turret. Everything else measures to a section, or to the ship as a whole.

Thanks guys.