Yeah, being close to another can be as bad as a colission, just ask Goose.
I may have dated myself with a Top Gun reference
Can we please stop calling overlapping, bumping and colliding?
Henceforth, we shall call it "KerPunk", after the sound 2 fictional spaceships would, theoratically, emit when they either attempt this maneuver or if they hit each other. In space.
Henceforth, we shall call it "KerPunk", after the sound 2 fictional spaceships would, theoratically, emit when they either attempt this maneuver or if they hit each other. In space.
****, and I thought "... in space no one can hear you scream ...", but I can hear the spaceship go "KerPunk"?
Time to re-watch Star Wars Episode VI (Revenge of the Jedi) ... you know that scene where they are all approaching the new Death Star with massive amounts of ships from both sides seemingly flying through each other ...?
I will have to turn the sound up so I can hear all of the "KerPunks" !!!
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BEAT ME TO IT!
OP is arguing based on "fluff" and then trying to apply real life logic... odd combo. We call it bumps round here too... that's what the game pieces are actually doing.
I can live with bumping, the same way I can live with the complete massacre of the written word used by many, many people on forums all over the place, and don't get me started on spelling!
And no, I am not pointing at non-english speakers.
Bump, bumper cars, hugging, molesting, crashing, slamming, running into, and ramming are just a few you'll hear at the LGS around these parts. It's worth noting that there are more than a few English majors in our league, and there are language arguments regularly. This particular quibble has not come up even once.
I thought people called it blocking.
How about the words/phrases: Getting into a Tussle, Tied Up, Invading my Space, Grappling, Too Close for Comfort, Stocking, Bear Hug, etc...
I vote for Bear Hug!
I would much rather we focus on not starting threads/conversations with "Can we please stop..." than focusing on stopping probably one of the most used pieces of jargon in the game.
Much like the dictionary definition of literally now holds the defintion of figuratively as one valid usage. That's about as wrong as you can get. Big of a deal is a colloquialism. Much like the number of Wisconsonites who "Seen the world cup last night." That's all I'm getting at. Calling peopleon localised language usage on the internet... It gets you nowhere.
That's not that big of a deal either. Language slowly redefines itself. I mean, your britches aren't literally in a bunch, but people know what I mean when I say that.
I say bumping. Everyone I play with says bumping, and if someone got onto me about saying bumping I'd probably just politely tell them to get over it. It's not really that big of a deal. But I get where you are coming from. I just don't think it bothers most people. Fly casual.
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It's just that big a deal . A deal is "big", it's not "of big".
There are metaphors, there's using words to mean new things, there's simplyfying, there's using language in interesting, creative, news ways, then there's just getting it wrong. I'm all for dynamic language, but that doesn't meant simply accepting mistakes as language fluidity.
I didn't say it was a big of deal anyway, I could care less.
Yeah but, it was like, funny, cos we were arguing about word usage, and I changed to subject to arguing about different word usage! OK, not *literally funny...
*seriously though, the misuse of literally is just the worst - a perfect example of how not all change is good. Totally robs the word of any meaning, would be like using true to mean false, meaning when you hear the sentence you've no idea what somebody mean! "I've litterally pulled all my hair out" - you now have literally no idea what that sentence means regarding my hair! :@
Yeah but, it was like, funny, cos we were arguing about word usage, and I changed to subject to arguing about different word usage! OK, not *literally funny...Much like the dictionary definition of literally now holds the defintion of figuratively as one valid usage. That's about as wrong as you can get. Big of a deal is a colloquialism. Much like the number of Wisconsonites who "Seen the world cup last night." That's all I'm getting at. Calling peopleon localised language usage on the internet... It gets you nowhere.That's not that big of a deal either. Language slowly redefines itself. I mean, your britches aren't literally in a bunch, but people know what I mean when I say that.I say bumping. Everyone I play with says bumping, and if someone got onto me about saying bumping I'd probably just politely tell them to get over it. It's not really that big of a deal. But I get where you are coming from. I just don't think it bothers most people. Fly casual.
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It's just that big a deal . A deal is "big", it's not "of big".
There are metaphors, there's using words to mean new things, there's simplyfying, there's using language in interesting, creative, news ways, then there's just getting it wrong. I'm all for dynamic language, but that doesn't meant simply accepting mistakes as language fluidity.
I didn't say it was a big of deal anyway, I could care less.
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*seriously though, the misuse of literally is just the worst - a perfect example of how not all change is good. Totally robs the word of any meaning, would be like using true to mean false, meaning when you hear the sentence you've no idea what somebody mean! "I've litterally pulled all my hair out" - you now have literally no idea what that sentence means regarding my hair! :@
I guess I just refuse to be a grammar Nazi. It doesn't help anything. Especially with touch screen keyboard tech, voice recognition tech, and spellcheck tech all being far from perfect.
Our group is starting to call it 'tinking'. You tinked! Oh crap I tinked.
The way I see it, overlapping may be the textbook term used in this game, however 'bumping' or 'bump' became the replacement term for one simple reason.
People are lazy.
Overlapping has four syllables. Bump has one.
You can say it faster, it rolls off the tongue, and to be honest, while yeah the models are supposed to represent a space battle and in our imaginations they are flying in a vacuum in a galaxy far far away, they are actually tiny plastic models that bump into one another and then stop moving forward.
In this sense, bump is a completely acceptable term as far as I'm concerned. I say bump because of this.
I'm aware that it isn't space bumpercars going on here and that they don't really collide with each other any more than they collide with asteroids (providing you don't roll that hit!) but hey, it's a game and I'm lazy, so bump away.
Somewhat. Typically context clues still make the meaning perfectly clear.Yeah but, it was like, funny, cos we were arguing about word usage, and I changed to subject to arguing about different word usage! OK, not *literally funny...Much like the dictionary definition of literally now holds the defintion of figuratively as one valid usage. That's about as wrong as you can get. Big of a deal is a colloquialism. Much like the number of Wisconsonites who "Seen the world cup last night." That's all I'm getting at. Calling peopleon localised language usage on the internet... It gets you nowhere.That's not that big of a deal either. Language slowly redefines itself. I mean, your britches aren't literally in a bunch, but people know what I mean when I say that.I say bumping. Everyone I play with says bumping, and if someone got onto me about saying bumping I'd probably just politely tell them to get over it. It's not really that big of a deal. But I get where you are coming from. I just don't think it bothers most people. Fly casual.
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It's just that big a deal . A deal is "big", it's not "of big".
There are metaphors, there's using words to mean new things, there's simplyfying, there's using language in interesting, creative, news ways, then there's just getting it wrong. I'm all for dynamic language, but that doesn't meant simply accepting mistakes as language fluidity.
I didn't say it was a big of deal anyway, I could care less.
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*seriously though, the misuse of literally is just the worst - a perfect example of how not all change is good. Totally robs the word of any meaning, would be like using true to mean false, meaning when you hear the sentence you've no idea what somebody mean! "I've litterally pulled all my hair out" - you now have literally no idea what that sentence means regarding my hair! :@
I guess I just refuse to be a grammar Nazi. It doesn't help anything. Especially with touch screen keyboard tech, voice recognition tech, and spellcheck tech all being far from perfect.
Grammar natziism isn't a choice, it's like sexuality.
Regarding the bump thing - I don't mind using words that aren't in the rules, but to me this one has connotations of the ships knocking each other; when someone says they've bumped (it's not common round our way) my first thought is they mean they've knocked the other model and that they're about to move it back.
Edited by mazz0That's the thing though - with 'literally' the context doesn't help, because you use it in cases where you actually could mean it literally.Somewhat. Typically context clues still make the meaning perfectly clear.Yeah but, it was like, funny, cos we were arguing about word usage, and I changed to subject to arguing about different word usage! OK, not *literally funny...Much like the dictionary definition of literally now holds the defintion of figuratively as one valid usage. That's about as wrong as you can get. Big of a deal is a colloquialism. Much like the number of Wisconsonites who "Seen the world cup last night." That's all I'm getting at. Calling peopleon localised language usage on the internet... It gets you nowhere.That's not that big of a deal either. Language slowly redefines itself. I mean, your britches aren't literally in a bunch, but people know what I mean when I say that.I say bumping. Everyone I play with says bumping, and if someone got onto me about saying bumping I'd probably just politely tell them to get over it. It's not really that big of a deal. But I get where you are coming from. I just don't think it bothers most people. Fly casual.
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It's just that big a deal . A deal is "big", it's not "of big".
There are metaphors, there's using words to mean new things, there's simplyfying, there's using language in interesting, creative, news ways, then there's just getting it wrong. I'm all for dynamic language, but that doesn't meant simply accepting mistakes as language fluidity.
I didn't say it was a big of deal anyway, I could care less.
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*seriously though, the misuse of literally is just the worst - a perfect example of how not all change is good. Totally robs the word of any meaning, would be like using true to mean false, meaning when you hear the sentence you've no idea what somebody mean! "I've litterally pulled all my hair out" - you now have literally no idea what that sentence means regarding my hair! :@
I guess I just refuse to be a grammar Nazi. It doesn't help anything. Especially with touch screen keyboard tech, voice recognition tech, and spellcheck tech all being far from perfect.
Grammar natziism isn't a choice, it's like sexuality.
Regarding the bump thing - I don't mind using words that aren't in the rules, but to me this one has connotations of the ships knocking each other; when someone says they've bumped (it's not common round our way) my first thought is they mean they've knocked the other model and that they're about to move it back.
I literally ate a haorse.
Again, context clues tell you that I'm meaning figuratively.
And Grammar Naziism is certainly a choice... But funny none the less.
Bumping is a pretty universally understood term. Unless you aren't paying attention to your opponents moves you can tell the difference with what they mean. Context in language, especially in games, is Everything. Without context nothing has meaning. Learn to flow with it or you will become a cranky old person well before your time.
Our group is starting to call it 'tinking'. You tinked! Oh crap I tinked.
As long as people aren't tinkle-ing(sp), your group should be fine
Oh god, the number of glass houses being demolished by all the stone throwing in this thread is downright hilarious.
*fist bump* for the OP. I agree, its annoying but I understand why the nomenclature is used. The bases are bumping/touching and the term more accurately the state of the actual game rather than what it represents. I generally pay it no mind, but what gets me is when someone says something like "you're gonna smash into me" or "these two guys will crash". bumping/humping/touching..fine. crashing/smashing? come on!
Given the context, shouldn't that be "fist overlap"?
In addition, I'd like to bump this thread to the top, but I literally have to overlap it instead.
OVERLAP
I give this thread: two humps and a bump!
Bump = 4 letters
Overlap = 7 letters
MUCH easier to type bump than overlap.
Also, when looking at the board "overlapping" is a temporary condition when it comes to ships as one inevitably gets pushed back to the point it no longer overlaps. At that point saying it "bumps" the other ship is probably more accurate despite being a non-game term.
Terms get mixed up and sometime have different, but related meanings in this game. After all, there is plenty of confusion about "touching" but even that pales compared to the issues seen when you start talking about hits, crits, hitting, and a bunch of other things in those categories.
I kinda wanna know where this guy plays X-wing at so I can show up and see how many times I can say "Bump" before he loses it.
I kinda wanna know where this guy plays X-wing at so I can show up and see how many times I can say "Bump" before he loses it.
When you find out, let me know ... I plan on joining you ...
I kinda wanna know where this guy plays X-wing at so I can show up and see how many times I can say "Bump" before he loses it.
I want to overlap uglies with his sister.
Too much?
Edited by WonderWAAAGHI'm going to start calling it "kissing" now. You kissed me so you can't shoot me! then I'm gonna squeal and blush.
Did not read all the thread....
The problem lies in the 2d nature of this 3d game. Hense "bumping" refers to stands. Your point is well taken, but as you can realize going 3d adds alot of complexity. see Squadron Strike and Advance Vector: Tactical, both 3d gmes. your gonna have to grim a bear it, bro.
your gonna have to grim a bear it, bro.
Ugh.
So much ugh.