Star Wars Clone Wars Ships ?

By Cubanboy, in X-Wing

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i would like to see some new factions alongside the 2 main ones we have. i mean put pirates smugglers and bounty hunters together and u have the 3rd faction called Outlaws give em a yellow firing arc and ure done. create a 4th faction called separatists (CIS or in other countires called KUS) they existed still in the galactic civil war eras a few planets and systems were still separatistic just mentioning it. give em a blue firing arc and we are all happy.

speaking of factions the attack wing clone that star treck thing has how many factions now ? 10 ? and a few of these factions use same ships ? i dont see why we cant have it ? i mean z-95 for rebels and outlaws could be awesome han solo in a lambda ? why not i mena he piloted one.

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Because Fantasy Flight Games likes having differences in factions, being able to give each faction representation in each Wave, and not having the game be a mish mash of unthematic power combos.

Please don't compare what Wizkids with Attack Wing compared to this game.

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Y Wing...

Nuff said

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i would like to see some new factions alongside the 2 main ones we have. i mean put pirates smugglers and bounty hunters together and u have the 3rd faction called Outlaws give em a yellow firing arc and ure done. create a 4th faction called separatists (CIS or in other countires called KUS) they existed still in the galactic civil war eras a few planets and systems were still separatistic just mentioning it. give em a blue firing arc and we are all happy.

speaking of factions the attack wing clone that star treck thing has how many factions now ? 10 ? and a few of these factions use same ships ? i dont see why we cant have it ? i mean z-95 for rebels and outlaws could be awesome han solo in a lambda ? why not i mena he piloted one.

Actually AW does not use the same ships across multiple factions. This will probably change when they get around to doing Mirror Universe ships, but that makes sense. Not every faction gets a release every wave, but they have planned a wave of 3-4 ships every 1-2 months for the next 8ish waves.

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I saw Star Wars in the theaters in '77. I think that qualifies me as old.

Well, I saw Star Wars at a drive in in '77, and I still consider myself young.

Personally I didn't much like the Tartakovsky clone wars but thought the newer clone wars cartoon was, for the most part very good (except for 4th season, WTF happened?!). For the most part they did very smart story lines, formatted for kids, but still mature. And Ashoka really grew as a character throughout the series. I was really surprised and happy with what they did with her at the end.

"Age, more than a count of heartbeats is. Age is how many mistakes you have made." Yoda - Dark Rendezvous

I consider myself old.

Also, the quotes at the beginning and the first episode are probably responsible for my dislike of the series. They set me up to REALLY like it, and, much like the Holiday Special, I found myself continuing to watch it, hoping it would live up to my expectations and I had to finally give up and pull myself away from it.

For me, it was the resurrection of Maul, which also overwrote other stories that I'd enjoyed, even after a Lite-Beer Wolverine-origin-copy knock-version, that didn't sit well with me either, had already made his appearance in the hopes of fanboy fueling, that did the series in.

It was then that I realized that Lucas had no sense of dignity in his pursuit of his next dollar.

This was recently confirmed for me an a Game Informer article as well. Did anyone else catch that one about the Darth Maul game?

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I seriously doubt we'll see Clone Wars as a separate game. Older fans prefer the original trilogy and that is the target that FFG has pursued in all of their Star Wars games. There is no known plans for Prequel era RPG's or Card Games either. And the younger fans will soon be wanting to see Star Wars: Rebels and Episode VII materials. So even that excuse is gone.

In short the Clone Wars are about to be shelved for the forseeable future.

There is a subset of fans who grew up watching the Prequel trilogy but it just doesn't seem like the Prequel trilogy captures one's imagination when one grows older like the OT did. Maybe it's just that they're not as good. Or maybe it's because that time never really ended, the Clone Wars cartoon kept it alive so there's been no absence, and so no time for nostalgia to build.

Besides, any Jedi Starfighter game would take away from development of X-Wing. Pre-painted miniatures of this quality are not easy to produce and there's only some much que space at the factory. Even if a Jedi Starfighter game would make money, would it make as much money as OT ships? It seems unlikely given the emphasis the rest of the Star Wars franchise will be putting on the OT.

And though it's just personal opinion, as fun as the Republic can be, who really wants to play as the Separatists? Does that really stir anyone's imagination? Other than the occasional "Roger! Roger!" jokes, I bet not.

I wouldn't mind a single wave for X-Wing that was a "Clone Wars era ships in the OT era" themed though. Especially the ARC-170.

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I saw Star Wars in the theaters in '77. I think that qualifies me as old.

Well, I saw Star Wars at a drive in in '77, and I still consider myself young.

Personally I didn't much like the Tartakovsky clone wars but thought the newer clone wars cartoon was, for the most part very good (except for 4th season, WTF happened?!). For the most part they did very smart story lines, formatted for kids, but still mature. And Ashoka really grew as a character throughout the series. I was really surprised and happy with what they did with her at the end.

"Age, more than a count of heartbeats is. Age is how many mistakes you have made." Yoda - Dark Rendezvous

I consider myself old.

Also, the quotes at the beginning and the first episode are probably responsible for my dislike of the series. They set me up to REALLY like it, and, much like the Holiday Special, I found myself continuing to watch it, hoping it would live up to my expectations and I had to finally give up and pull myself away from it.

For me, it was the resurrection of Maul, which also overwrote other stories that I'd enjoyed, even after a Lite-Beer Wolverine-origin-copy knock-version, that didn't sit well with me either, had already made his appearance in the hopes of fanboy fueling, that did the series in.

It was then that I realized that Lucas had no sense of dignity in his pursuit of his next dollar.

This was recently confirmed for me an a Game Informer article as well. Did anyone else catch that one about the Darth Maul game?

Sometimes George did things that seemed like cash grabs for a nobler purpose though. For example the planned 3D releases of all six movies was to be used to fund the Star Wars live action show.

And the Darth Maul game looked fun to me honestly. And with less suspension-of-disbelief than Forced Unleashed required.

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I seriously doubt we'll see Clone Wars as a separate game. Older fans prefer the original trilogy and that is the target that FFG has pursued in all of their Star Wars games. There is no known plans for Prequel era RPG's or Card Games either. And the younger fans will soon be wanting to see Star Wars: Rebels and Episode VII materials. So even that excuse is gone.

This is a good point. If we haven't seen FFG pursuing the Prequels in any of the stuff they put out, I'd think the chances of miniature ships being their jumping off to be quite slim.

And though it's just personal opinion, as fun as the Republic can be, who really wants to play as the Separatists? Does that really stir anyone's imagination? Other than the occasionally "Roger! Roger!" jokes, I bet not.

I like the Seps. I played them a lot in WotC's SWMiniatures. I like armies, swarms, whatever you'd like to call them.

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I sometimes wonder how much the Prequel trilogy and Clone Wars cartoon would improve just by changing the voice of the Confederate droids.

You can't take your heroes seriously if you can't take the villains seriously.

And also Grievious. Please, please, for the love of the force change his voice.

And Nute Gunray.

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I saw Star Wars in the theaters in '77. I think that qualifies me as old.

Well, I saw Star Wars at a drive in in '77, and I still consider myself young.

Personally I didn't much like the Tartakovsky clone wars but thought the newer clone wars cartoon was, for the most part very good (except for 4th season, WTF happened?!). For the most part they did very smart story lines, formatted for kids, but still mature. And Ashoka really grew as a character throughout the series. I was really surprised and happy with what they did with her at the end.

"Age, more than a count of heartbeats is. Age is how many mistakes you have made." Yoda - Dark Rendezvous

I consider myself old.

Also, the quotes at the beginning and the first episode are probably responsible for my dislike of the series. They set me up to REALLY like it, and, much like the Holiday Special, I found myself continuing to watch it, hoping it would live up to my expectations and I had to finally give up and pull myself away from it.

For me, it was the resurrection of Maul, which also overwrote other stories that I'd enjoyed, even after a Lite-Beer Wolverine-origin-copy knock-version, that didn't sit well with me either, had already made his appearance in the hopes of fanboy fueling, that did the series in.

It was then that I realized that Lucas had no sense of dignity in his pursuit of his next dollar.

This was recently confirmed for me an a Game Informer article as well. Did anyone else catch that one about the Darth Maul game?

Sometimes George did things that seemed like cash grabs for a nobler purpose though. For example the planned 3D releases of all six movies was to be used to fund the Star Wars live action show.

And the Darth Maul game looked fun to me honestly. And with less suspension-of-disbelief than Forced Unleashed required.

I get that. But the indignity of the cash grab is indignity none-the-less. I would have been fine with a 3D release if he'd have just released 3D movies and didn't screw around with them in any way and then try to convince us that he'd always wanted to make those changes.

I also would have liked to see the Maul game, and I share your disdain for FU. One of the few upsides of the article was the reveal that Lucas would not tolerate mention of the FU storyline.

It also, however, revealed that Lucas wanted to team up Maul with Talon (another fanboy fuel character) for the game. The guys working on the game had to tell them that they weren't from the same ERA and Lucas's response was to make him a clone or descendant or something.

Lame.

Here's a link if you're interested.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/05/07/the-story-of-the-darth-maul-game-that-never-came-to-be.aspx?PostPageIndex=1

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I sometimes wonder how much the Prequel trilogy and Clone Wars cartoon would improve just by changing the voice of the Confederate droids.

You can't take your heroes seriously if you can't take the villains seriously.

And also Grievious. Please, please, for the love of the force change his voice.

And Nute Gunray.

Good call on all points. Clone Wars would have been much more tolerable if the droids weren't just comedy "relief".

But they DID change Greivous's voice. In the Tartakovsky Clone Wars, his voice drilled fear into the hearts of even the Jedi. In the films and the show, he was Triumph the Comic Insult Dog with asthma.

Also lame.

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If you're going to keep a product line growing... especially looking at least 10 years down the line... you have to do kids stuff. The kids stuff is already in place but you're going to have to do it again, and pretty soon, to KEEP your audience growing (or at least replacing the ones you lose). So your options are: go with what is already working, or create something new and hope it works too. Clone Wars is working still despite it's cancellation, for a very large (and soon to be spending money) portion of the population Clone Wars IS Star Wars.

I was six when I saw Star Wars in '77. Lucas didn't have to do any more "kids stuff" than what was in the original release version to completely hook me. After Empire, the "kids stuff" did nothing but take over, and run out of control.

It's possible to do it right. He was the one who did it right.

I don't know what happened to the man, but something changed.

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Not again please, read all the topics about this, and all give the same resolution, NO¡¡¡¡¡, greettings.

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I really don't want them to include any pre-Episode 4 ships.

I don't want any clone wars or prequel nonsense sneaking into this game. I'm sure it will eventually happen though... I just hope it waits until after I die.

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The biggest reason to do it is they are running out of viable ships for the game. They've done every movie ship already, and most if not all of the most popular and relevant EU ships. I hadn't even heard of the new imperial large ship that's coming out before the announcement, and I know most ships in the EU. They can only do so many "aces" or other types of repaints as well.

I don't really care how they do it, whether it's dividing them up into the current factions, making new factions, or making a separate but compatible game.

I do think it would be fun having multiple factions in the game, and like others said you could add a fifth that would be pirates/bounty hunters/zahn/black sun/etc.

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I think one of the things I like about the separatists is thier potential: in the movies they were comic relief; they would have been **** terrifying in "reality" though.

Droidecka? Trifighters? Unstoppable to your average soldier.

Buzzdroid missiles? Cute vs. droids, horrific as **** at footsoldiers.

Hive mind transformer bots (vulture droids)...that went rogue and started roaming space.

Without the comedy it would have been...AwESOME!

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Hey now, I'm 31 and the clone wars series was fun to watch

I would not mind them doing models for clone wars at all, we were just talking about this tonight....it seems they are going to be scraping the barrel soon especially for rebel ships. If done properly they could use Republic as rebel etc

If they do somehow make clone wars era ships, I want the next epic ships to be a Republic Cruiser...love their look much more than the OT Star Destroyers.....for some reason they have more character to me

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One thing to remember about needing new ships... the new unified universe is all going to be available. Not just the movies, but all of the OT and Sequel trilogy novels, comics, and games that will come as well. I'm betting the OT and Sequel trilogies will be a lot more compatible too, given the hints we've seen so far.

And early indications are space combat will be given more focus than it was during the Prequel trilogy.

I don't think lack of ships will be a problem for much longer. They just need to hold out a couple more waves.

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My vote is for a separate, but compatible, game called Jedi Starfighter . The factions, of course, would be Republic and Separatist, and the upgrades could be usable in X-Wing to entice X-Wing players to buy in. However, Lucasfilm doesn't seem to have much interest in promoting the Clone Wars era at the moment.

I loved the Starfighter games. I know I'm not in very good or very large company in that regard, but they could be a gold mine of ships:

Starfighter

Jedi Starfighter

I didn't check sizes or anything to see if they were even smaller than the CR90 or anything, but there they are. I know there are plenty that I'd like to see.

Not sure I clicked on all of those but there's still a few I didn't see I think from the prequels. Darth Maul's ship from episode 1 I think was called a Sith Infiltrator. Amedala's decoy's ship from episode 2 & 3(short J-type). Dooku's sail ship from end of episode 2. Though I've not seen more than a couple episodes of the cartoon, there's probably a bunch of ships there(though that my be where some of the above come from), Anikin's freighter thing?

I don't think it would be that bad to add prequel/ Clone Wars ships to the game as it is right now. Actual factions don't really matter for gameplay purposes other than upgrade cards when you can already play Rebel vs Rebel or Imp vs Imp. Rebels vs Trade Fed/Sith doesn't really bother me. The game would be played the same just different model ships. There's more than a few speculation threads about what ships are left realistically when pulling ships from video games(have you seen that TIE ship variant poster pic?). The game would have to be rebranded to generically cover Star Wars in general, Star Wars Starfighter?, but still plays as it does now. This could also open up other factions such as pirates/smugglers that I seen people ask about.

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That sounds dangerously close to the nonsense you get in Star Trek: Attack Wing. Their example of "just put whatever in there" is not one I'd be supportive of following.

If they do put in Prequel ships as separate factions, then I would really hope it really would be a completely separate spin-off game. I don't think they'll do either, for reasons I've already stated, and for the additional reason that most Prequel fans seem more concerned with ground combat than space combat in general (that's the feeling I get anyway).

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Not so much ground combat - there's a lot of good space combat in the prequels and clone wars too - but I'd much prefer to see a rescaled game based around capital ships and fighter groups. Star Wars and the rebellion had very few capital ship fights worth mentioning but they were a regular thing in the Clone Wars series and the Venator-class looks badass. If you design the game scale around destroyers and fighter groups, you can easily rescale it to allow a destroyer plus fighter-load on each side as the 'starter' game, and 2-3 destroyers be your "100 point dogfight"....

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Just trying to extend the life of the game...that I never actually seem to get to play =/

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I would love to see how they do droid pilots.... roger roger.

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That sounds dangerously close to the nonsense you get in Star Trek: Attack Wing. Their example of "just put whatever in there" is not one I'd be supportive of following.

If they do put in Prequel ships as separate factions, then I would really hope it really would be a completely separate spin-off game. I don't think they'll do either, for reasons I've already stated, and for the additional reason that most Prequel fans seem more concerned with ground combat than space combat in general (that's the feeling I get anyway).

Really? If people are anything like me that's two totally seperate desires (ground and prequel). I thought the ground units in the prequels looked a little generic (the hovertanks and round rolling things, I'm thinking of), for ground units (and I'm talking vehicles only, I don't care for infantry at this scale) it's all about ATATs and ATSTs!

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To be honest the prequels focused more on the ground battles and the light saber duals instead of space combat. Heck you can count all of the space fighter shoot outs on one finger. The accidental destruction of the droid control ship (had to make the exhaust pipe more legitimate didn't we), the pursuit of slave 1, and the rescue of the chancellor where those X-wing wana be fighters were there (Dear Mr, Lucas, why did you not make them Z-95s?)

With those there were only the droid fighter, the naboo N1, those x-fin wing fighters, and the star fighters the jedi flew, for big ships all you have is the 2 naboo shuttles (which has NO weapons) and the sith shuttle.

There was a lot more war in the stars with the movies known as episode 4, 5, & 6. Each one had a least 2 space battle scenes.