Disclaimer: I have not seen this addressed. If it has these aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along... but provide a link!

While I do enjoy the unique aspects each faction can utilize, I do believe homogenization is inevitable in X-wing. We are starting to see it with the Decimator's turret, to a lesser degree we saw i when the B-wing came barrel rolling in.

We see that both of the modifications that come with the Phantom are pretty much exclusive to ships that can cloak, but only one specifically states 'TIE Phantom only.'

That implies other cloaking ships are planned. Would I be crazy to assume the next one would be rebel? The first ship I can think of that would use cloaking (or close enough to it) would be a Stealth X-wing. Hopefully it would be a new model and not a mere repaint.

Are there any other ships from either faction that are known to use cloaking?

I am assuming tie advanced will be able to upgrade to have more options like these. /wild speculation

Honestly I think the differnce is that Advanced Cloaking device, minus the phantom only text would have made every ship in the game capable of cloaking. Imagine the game then. It would berun on everything. The particle generator doesn't need that text so they left it off.

"No ship that small usually has a cloaking device" - Anakin. (Clone Wars episode 'Cat and Mouse')

The phantom is the only one I know of. Does the Stealth X have a cloak or a different means of being sneaky?

Honestly I think the differnce is that Advanced Cloaking device, minus the phantom only text would have made every ship in the game capable of cloaking. Imagine the game then. It would berun on everything. The particle generator doesn't need that text so they left it off.

This makes a lot of sense. I'm hoping the phantom is the only ship we see that can cloak. If we start to see other cloakers popping up the phantom will become much less special.

It'll happen eventually. I expect a Stealth X-wing since that was a thing.

Homogenization is typically only a problem in a game when one tactic is clearly the way to win. Without it, only one faction would win most of the time and that's not fun...We're seeing a 12pt rebel ship so that rebels too can swarm if they want (their ship does so differently however). We're seeing an imperial command ship with a turret because a ship of that size would have a turret! And the decimator is probably not going to play anything like the Falcon or the Outrider.

Honestly I think the differnce is that Advanced Cloaking device, minus the phantom only text would have made every ship in the game capable of cloaking. Imagine the game then. It would berun on everything. The particle generator doesn't need that text so they left it off.

This makes a lot of sense. I'm hoping the phantom is the only ship we see that can cloak. If we start to see other cloakers popping up the phantom will become much less special.

I honestly doubt it would nullify the Phantom.

First off, the Phantom is the only one with Advanced Cloaking Device. Without cloak as a free action post firing it isn't nearly as good.

Secondly without Advanced Sensors or Advanced Cloak Cloaking is actually very underwhelming.

A cloaking X-wing with neither of these options would be pretty bad.

Cloaked asteroids.

-The last command

Cloaked asteroids.

-The last command

Heh. Immediately after the rebel player reveals a maneuver dial, but before he actually executes the maneuver, the imperial player can spend an asteroid's cloak token to decloak the asteroid, but only if doing so would result in the ship about to move overlapping the d&d liaised asteroid.

The Stealth X is pretty explicitly not an actual cloaking device. So Rookie Pilot + Stealth Device = Stealth X.

We honestly really don't need any more cloaking devices. No guarantee we won't get more, but I think the model pool is small enough (and will remain so) that one ship with it is enough.

Need to agree with the Aminar here. You can put the SPA on anything but unless you can decloak or perform the Cloak action it is about as useful as a Targeting Computer on a ship that can already use Target Lock. ACD on the other hand would allow a ship to take an action even if that action is NOT on the ship's action bar. Think of it being something like FCS on a the Phantom which can give a ship something it normally couldn't take.

Could you imagine seeing ACD on Wedge or Fel? Make your attack and Cloak. Enjoy another +2 agility dice while everyone else goes. Let next turn come around and see where everyone is before decloaking to move into position to swat someone else before going back under the cloak. Engine Upgrade has nothing on this.

Hadn't thought of this. Interesting idea. I'm totally open to the rebels getting a stealth option. I would hope though that it is unique in some way to the Phantom.

Good observation.

The Rogue Shadow uses stygium technology.

FFG, plz gif Rogue Shadow.

I wouldn't mind another ship getting a cloaking option as long as it's kept rare. As an example, the cloaking action could be added with a unique title for a specific ship, and I wouldn't be upset.

"No ship that small usually has a cloaking device" - Anakin. (Clone Wars episode 'Cat and Mouse')

The phantom is the only one I know of. Does the Stealth X have a cloak or a different means of being sneaky?

Original quote was from Empire Strikes Back Captain Needa referring to the Millennium Falcon. Also ironically around the same timeframe is when the empire was developing the TIE Phantom. The more you know

"No ship that small usually has a cloaking device" - Anakin. (Clone Wars episode 'Cat and Mouse')

The phantom is the only one I know of. Does the Stealth X have a cloak or a different means of being sneaky?

Original quote was from Empire Strikes Back Captain Needa referring to the Millennium Falcon. Also ironically around the same timeframe is when the empire was developing the TIE Phantom. The more you know

I find it almost amusing that you can quote the line and episode name from The Clone Wars but can't recognize it from the movies.

I wouldn't mind another ship getting a cloaking option as long as it's kept rare. As an example, the cloaking action could be added with a unique title for a specific ship, and I wouldn't be upset.

This is more of what I'm expecting. Rare is fine... another whole model with the option baked in is less appealing. Of course a big ship with it would definitely play significantly differently to merit making.

"No ship that small usually has a cloaking device" - Anakin. (Clone Wars episode 'Cat and Mouse')

The phantom is the only one I know of. Does the Stealth X have a cloak or a different means of being sneaky?

Original quote was from Empire Strikes Back Captain Needa referring to the Millennium Falcon. Also ironically around the same timeframe is when the empire was developing the TIE Phantom. The more you know

What does one front-line admiral know about the black projects of the Empire?

If we see another cloaking ship it's going to be the Emperor's Shuttle. The only other cloaking ship I can think of would be the Vorknkx , but on a corvette that would be ridiculous.

If they were to bring out a card to add the cloak action to an existing ship, I can only see them doing so through an Aces pack. Adding cloak to a shuttle (as an Emperor's Shuttle title card for example) would therefore mean having a shuttle in an Aces pack.

Plausible? Maybe, maybe not...

If they were to bring out a card to add the cloak action to an existing ship, I can only see them doing so through an Aces pack. Adding cloak to a shuttle (as an Emperor's Shuttle title card for example) would therefore mean having a shuttle in an Aces pack.

Plausible? Maybe, maybe not...

Hmm. Hypermobile shuttle? 3 AG when cloaked and 10 HP to chew through? Yes please!

Need to agree with the Aminar here. You can put the SPA on anything but unless you can decloak or perform the Cloak action it is about as useful as a Targeting Computer on a ship that can already use Target Lock. ACD on the other hand would allow a ship to take an action even if that action is NOT on the ship's action bar. Think of it being something like FCS on a the Phantom which can give a ship something it normally couldn't take.

Could you imagine seeing ACD on Wedge or Fel? Make your attack and Cloak. Enjoy another +2 agility dice while everyone else goes. Let next turn come around and see where everyone is before decloaking to move into position to swat someone else before going back under the cloak. Engine Upgrade has nothing on this.

Doesn't the Virago have a cloaking device? If so that would fit in line with Wave 5's Outrunner and could fill in for the other Imperial ship.

"No ship that small usually has a cloaking device" - Anakin. (Clone Wars episode 'Cat and Mouse')

The phantom is the only one I know of. Does the Stealth X have a cloak or a different means of being sneaky?

The stealthX would be similar to the B-2 it has a lot of passive stealth characteristics but not an "active" cloaking system like the James Bond Car in the movie with Halle Berry, I( think Die Another Day)

Need to agree with the Aminar here. You can put the SPA on anything but unless you can decloak or perform the Cloak action it is about as useful as a Targeting Computer on a ship that can already use Target Lock. ACD on the other hand would allow a ship to take an action even if that action is NOT on the ship's action bar. Think of it being something like FCS on a the Phantom which can give a ship something it normally couldn't take.

Could you imagine seeing ACD on Wedge or Fel? Make your attack and Cloak. Enjoy another +2 agility dice while everyone else goes. Let next turn come around and see where everyone is before decloaking to move into position to swat someone else before going back under the cloak. Engine Upgrade has nothing on this.

I somewhat want to play the Everything has cloak game. It sounds like immense fun. Make it small ship only though. Or on large ships it's only a 1 template. Either way, sounds amazingly ridiculous, if highly imbalanced. It`d be good for a game or three.

Need to agree with the Aminar here. You can put the SPA on anything but unless you can decloak or perform the Cloak action it is about as useful as a Targeting Computer on a ship that can already use Target Lock. ACD on the other hand would allow a ship to take an action even if that action is NOT on the ship's action bar. Think of it being something like FCS on a the Phantom which can give a ship something it normally couldn't take.

Could you imagine seeing ACD on Wedge or Fel? Make your attack and Cloak. Enjoy another +2 agility dice while everyone else goes. Let next turn come around and see where everyone is before decloaking to move into position to swat someone else before going back under the cloak. Engine Upgrade has nothing on this.

I somewhat want to play the Everything has cloak game. It sounds like immense fun. Make it small ship only though. Or on large ships it's only a 1 template. Either way, sounds amazingly ridiculous, if highly imbalanced. It`d be good for a game or three.

you can play it. Just run a 3 phantom list vs another 3 phantom list.