We just wanted to let everyone know that our episode 0 has been released, it is an introduction to the cast, to NOVA Squadron, and has a little topic about sportsmanship.
We will be back in two week with our first full blown episode in our true format.
Constrictive criticism is welcomed!
Thanks for listening!
http://www.afewmaneuvers.com/_/afm-articles/nova-squadron-radio-%e2%80%93-episode-0-%e2%80%9cdress-rehearsal%e2%80%9d-r177
Thanks Chumby! I am hitting the social media so hard my copy-pasta skills must be dulling! Thanks man, I fixed it.
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Constrictive criticism is welcomed!
Keep it tight!
Sorry, I just genetically cannot pass those up... 
I just listened to the main discussion and I found it interesting and entertaining. This strategy seems against the "spirit of the game" but looks to fall within the scope of the rules and the game. The player sets his maneuver dial each turn and provided they are not deliberately slowing their turn down I don’t see a problem with it. I also don’t see how this would be considered any different then a couple of ships pointing nose to nose and not moving. Sure, I would be a little upset if this happened to me but I don’t think a TO should be able to dictate how I fly my squadron of ships.
Edited by TGOThis was the reason we decided to tackle the subject. The 'spirit of the game' says turn around and shoot your spaceships up, however in a competitive environment, it is possible to sneak a major win out of it.
I think for me, I wanted to expose the idea of building a more balanced list to help prevent something like this from happening.
Thanks for the kind words!
The fact that you guys say that you have come from a gaming background and yet don't actually know what slow play is (which is not what occurred in the example) and think that it was a potential case of bad sportsmanship (nothing indicates that it was) shows to me just how little you know and understand.
Edit: To keep it constructive.
Slow play is when someone drags out their turns, taking ages to decide on actions, taking a long time to work out which ship to shoot, etc. Essentially slowing down the turns. Keeping out of range of your opponent is not slow playing, it's tactics.
Secondly nothing in the example indicates that there was a case of bad sportsmanship. The Y-Wing player got frustrated, but that his own fault for bring a slow, short range list.
Your production quality was quite good, but your content is misleading as you don't know what you're talking about. Therefore, I would suggest investing your energies into other avenues, like learning about what you're going to talk about because at the moment, I would say that you are new to gaming (although you indicate otherwise), or just really don't have a clue.
Edited by EltnotDude, Eltnot. I agree that the A-Wing player clearly didn't meet the definition of slow play, but that's what they were debating. They came to the same conclusion you did and yet they clearly don't know what they are talking about? Ha. I give you props for encouraging them to analyze what constitutes slow play a bit more, but telling them to "invest your energies into other avenues" is just cold and completely unproductive.
Whether this is an easy case for you or not is pretty much irrelevant. It is an issue the community has grappled with from time to time, sometimes in this form sometimes in the form of Fortress Shuttles. Nonetheless, people all have different view points on the subject and it deserves a conversation and I felt they did an entertaining job presenting the issue. I haven't heard any other podcast discuss it, so I am glad they did.
Sorry it doesn't meet your standards, but I hope they continue to produce the podcast. They did a good job for their first outing and i'm confident that it will get even better.
The fact that you guys say that you have come from a gaming background and yet don't actually know what slow play is (which is not what occurred in the example) and think that it was a potential case of bad sportsmanship (nothing indicates that it was) shows to me just how little you know and understand.
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Your production quality was quite good, but your content is misleading as you don't know what you're talking about. Therefore, I would suggest investing your energies into other avenues, like learning about what you're going to talk about because at the moment, I would say that you are new to gaming (although you indicate otherwise), or just really don't have a clue.
Waaay out of line in both these paragraphs.
Are you planning on putting this as a feed or in itunes? Right now my podcast app can't down load it. Thanks for creating a new X-wing podcast and I can't wait to listen.
Yes, this will be on iTunes shortly. We are waiting for iTunes themselves to release it.
The fact that you guys say that you have come from a gaming background and yet don't actually know what slow play is (which is not what occurred in the example) and think that it was a potential case of bad sportsmanship (nothing indicates that it was) shows to me just how little you know and understand.
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Your production quality was quite good, but your content is misleading as you don't know what you're talking about. Therefore, I would suggest investing your energies into other avenues, like learning about what you're going to talk about because at the moment, I would say that you are new to gaming (although you indicate otherwise), or just really don't have a clue.
Waaay out of line in both these paragraphs.
Not really. If they had said that they were new to gaming, or tournaments in general, then I could accept the discussion that they had. Instead they indicate that they are experienced tournament players. An experienced tournament player would have known exactly what the term slow play means, discussed the situation and immediately given the correct answer that this was not slow play. That's not what they did, and the fact that they had to think about it and discuss it for the length of time that they did before coming to that conclusion, indicates to me their inexperience in the area that they are claiming to be knowledgeable on.
I have no problems with them putting out a podcast, I have no problems with their production quality. I do have problems with them trying to give horrible advice to new players all whilst claiming to know what they are talking about when they don't. If you want me to be all warm and fuzzy and "fly casual" about this podcast, then fine I can be, when they stop lying. If they rebadge themselves as "new to tournament play", instead of the "tournament vets" that they claim to be, then I have no issues whatsoever.
Edit: I just don't want to see new players being fed misinformation that then causes hassles at events when they cry that someone is being unsportsmanlike or for slow play when this isn't the case, and all because these guys want to stroke their epeens and call themselves tournament veterans.
Edited by EltnotYou are taking a lot of liberty with your criticisms based on one point of contention. Liars? Misinformation? Because you have an issue with them using the term "slow play" in a somewhat loose manner? Come on. I agree that slow play isn't the right term in this case, but guess what they AGREE with you that this does not meet that definition! Did you even listen to the podcast? The point of the segment was to decide if what other players had discussed about this case was true. Was it unsportsmanlike? Slowplay? Etc. These guys were discussing the points that the community has brought up and came to the same conclusion as you. Nope, not unsportsmanlike or Slowplay. Just tactics and strategy.
I assure you these guys are seasoned vets. They play this game extremely well against a big field almost weekly. I have seen them do it over and over.
You could have approached this in a constructive and better way without laying down your argument but without being disagreeable. Why so hostile?
I assure you these guys are seasoned vets. They play this game extremely well against a big field almost weekly. I have seen them do it over and over.
You could have approached this in a constructive and better way without laying down your argument but without being disagreeable. Why so hostile?
A new player hears them say they are seasoned tournament players. Then they hear them give the explanation of the situation, followed by initially the incorrect answer. What is likely to get stuck in the head of that new player? The wrong answer.
Now if they hadn't given the impression that they are seasoned tournament players, a new player is far more likely to take the information with a grain of salt and investigate the answers given on their own. This should result in a new player getting the correct information before they find themselves in a tournament.
If the hosts play that often, why didn't they come to the correct answer immediately? The only answer that I can come up with that is because they aren't the tournament players that they claim to be. They may be nice guys, they may be your mates, but from my point of view half a world away, they are not the seasoned tournament players that they claim to be.
I would tell the new player to finish the podcast. The segment was a discussion not an instant verdict.
If someone flew in circles at a local 10$ tourney and I had no way to catch them, I would seek vengeance at the next tourney. I do think it is bad manners at a small local tourney, but completely legal. At regionals or worlds, I would give full respect to anyone who used it as their tactic since a lot more is on the table.
I hate 40k comparisons or examples when discussing X-wing. Otherwise, it was a great podcast and was nice to hear a newer show where the audio wasn't complete chaos! And thank you for keeping it PG so I can listen to it at work in the future!
It's a fine start for the podcast -- not very meaty, but I'm sure you'll get into more serious discussion next time. As a technical exercise I think it went well, so consider Episode 0 a mission accomplished.
Anyway, with two of the three speakers coming to (what I consider to be) the correct conclusion about hit-and-run tactics in tournament play, it seems pretty representative of what the player base has been saying about the controversy. It is a controversial subject and I'm glad you guys took the time to talk about it. Ultimately the FAQ or tournament rules will clear it up -- or the current scoring rule will stand and we'll have our answer that way.
Looking forward to the next episode.
Thanks for all the support guys! I thought we came to the correct conclusion that it was neither unsportsmanlike nor cheating.
We look forward to bringing you more content in the future! We record again in a week!
I play with these guys all the time, along side Paul Heaver. Trust me when I tell you they know what they are talking about. I have been gaming for 32 years and I thought it was an open discussion that came to the correct conclusion. The question they opened with was "is it bad sportsmanship and akin to slow play", not that it was slow play. The argument of slow play was quickly discarded and so was it being bad sportsmanship by the time the podcast was done.
@Eltnot, I usually enjoy your posts and although your arguments are well constructed, I do not think they were constructive in this case.
Just my 2 cents.
Edited by EnglishpeteI enjoyed the podcast and I believe I meet you guys in the Monroeville Regionals, I was the guy flying the 3 X-Wing squad.
I remember you man! You got to see the early birth of the show that day!
I am happy you enjoyed it!
Kris just had to bring up that he's currently X-1 against me lifetime (where X is a reasonably large number) in tournament play, didn't he? 
Paul
Edited by pheaverIs there an RSS feed of this podcast? I'd like to subscribe.
Paul,
Admit it, if you had a winning record against the current World Champion in anything, wouldn't brag about that???
To Audio Weasel - Yes, we are waiting for iTunes to post it. It should be up tomorrow at the latest I would think.
