While we all daydream about our new wave 5 ships, I figured I'd get the ball rolling on what we think the dials might look like.

My computer is down so I'm stuck using my tablet to post, which doesn't give me the option to change font color. So I'm using this grid pattern to illustrate my guesses. In case it's unclear, G is green, W is white, and R is red. U is my shorthand for a K turn.

Here's my guess for the YT-2400:

...<...\...|.../...>..U

4.........W...........R

3.W.W.G.W.W..R

2.W.W.G.W.W

1......G.G.G

In all honesty, it could look exactly like the falcon but I don't think it will. People widely agree the falcon's dial is a little too good with those one turns. My guess is they won't be around for this one, especially since it can rock a HLC turret. A 1 turn on a ship with barrel roll built in would be crazy good. So my guess is they'll take the falcon dial, move the one turns to 3s and throw in an extra green to compensate.

My guess for the decimator:

...<...\...|.../...>...U

4.........R

3.....R.W.R

2.W.G.G.G.W

1.....W.G.W

I don't think it'll have the red stop like the shuttle. I think that'll be a shuttle only maneuver. To compensate, I think it'll get a red 4 forward. Since its 2 bank is known to be green, I don't think its 2 turns will be red.

Anyone else wanna jump in?

Realistically speaking larger, slower aircraft can turn a lot tighter that faster fighter aircraft. It all comes down to relative speed difference. I would argue that the 1 turn on the falcon and large units makes much more sense than it does on fighter aircraft. If anything I would have thought the shuttle would be able to turn tighter than it does in pure distance wise based on the speed difference of the ships in question.

To put it in terms on earth a bomber aircraft flying at 300 - 400 kts can turn a much tighter corner than a fighter jet flying at mach 1.2

And at the same time they put a lot less stress on the airframe due to the speed difference.

That maybe true but it simply isn't reflected in this game. An X-wing is slower than a TIE but a TIE turns better. Maneuverability is separate from speed in the dials.

Not sure. The YT2400 will be really close to the 1300. Decimator will likely be better than people think. I don't think you're that far off at all.

So basically you are proposing an ever so slightly better dial than the firespray for the YT-2400 (only difference is you propose a green 3 instead of a white 3 on the spray).

I can only assume that the YT-2400 is an evolution of the YT-1300, so I image that it should look more like the 1300 dial but slightly better, also most (not all) of the ships that have the barrel roll action also have 1-turns as well.

So basically you are proposing an ever so slightly better dial than the firespray for the YT-2400 (only difference is you propose a green 3 instead of a white 3 on the spray).

I can only assume that the YT-2400 is an evolution of the YT-1300, so I image that it should look more like the 1300 dial but slightly better, also most (not all) of the ships that have the barrel roll action also have 1-turns as well.

Yeah the dial I proposed is almost identical to the firespray but considering it has a built in barrel roll, it's maneuvering options are considerably better.

That is, likewise, why I don't think it'll have the 1 turn like the falcon. I know most (if not all) other ships with barrel roll have the 1 turn as well, but this is the only large ship with barrel roll. A roll on a large ship is a very different thing than on a small base. IF it does have a 1 turn, I think it would have to be red for balance reasons.

I can see Dash's ship having roughly the same dial as the falcon just with one or two more green turns. Lord only know what the imps ship will do.

I think the YT-2400 is supposed to be more maneuverable than the YT-1300, so I'd guess something like YT-1300 plus a 3-turn.

I didn't play Star Wars Galaxies, so I have no idea on the VT-49.

The Wave 5 movement dials.... Will be round! There you go you heard it here first kids! ;-)

It will have red/green/white moves on the dial

If we are lucky there might be more then one straight movement

My real guess is the dec has a 0 move like the shuttle

I'm still hoping one of these ships has no reds. Maybe the Decimator. A few good greens, no K-Turns and no reds.

Realistically speaking larger, slower aircraft can turn a lot tighter that faster fighter aircraft. It all comes down to relative speed difference. I would argue that the 1 turn on the falcon and large units makes much more sense than it does on fighter aircraft. If anything I would have thought the shuttle would be able to turn tighter than it does in pure distance wise based on the speed difference of the ships in question.

To put it in terms on earth a bomber aircraft flying at 300 - 400 kts can turn a much tighter corner than a fighter jet flying at mach 1.2

And at the same time they put a lot less stress on the airframe due to the speed difference.

This might be true in the atmosphere. In space the inertia of the bigger ships would make turning much more difficult. Without the air of the atmosphere to push off of you don't turn any better. The reason the white k-turns on the defender make sense while it can't turn tight is because in space it can invert and fire all engines and keep going with the powerful engines of the defender. However this is a game and the fun part about a game is that you can make things any way you want, or will make it more fun and balanced and reality doesn't have to get in the way.

I think the YT-2400 is supposed to be more maneuverable than the YT-1300, so I'd guess something like YT-1300 plus a 3-turn.

I didn't play Star Wars Galaxies, so I have no idea on the VT-49.

The VT-49 flew like a sack of bricks in every essence of the word. Like the other POB (Player On Board) ships, such as the YT-1300 and the Nova Courier, there was no easy maneuvering to it at all.

If they base it anything like that, I wouldn't expect to see a white hard turn on the dial, at all. Maybe a few green/white straights to compensate, since straight was easily handled.

I have serious doubts about a K-turn for the VT. The YT might not get a 1 forward though. Most ships with barrel roll have no 1 forward.

I think the YT-2400 is supposed to be more maneuverable than the YT-1300, so I'd guess something like YT-1300 plus a 3-turn.

I didn't play Star Wars Galaxies, so I have no idea on the VT-49.

The VT-49 flew like a sack of bricks in every essence of the word. Like the other POB (Player On Board) ships, such as the YT-1300 and the Nova Courier, there was no easy maneuvering to it at all.

If they base it anything like that, I wouldn't expect to see a white hard turn on the dial, at all. Maybe a few green/white straights to compensate, since straight was easily handled.

The YT-2400 is suppose to be more maneuverable then a YT-1300,

As for the VT in game play it was the imperial opposite the YT. I am not sure how maneuverable it is suppose to be fluff wise though.

I just hope the YT-2400 has a 1 turn, although it'll be less of an issue flying an asteroid kissing Dash.