I'd like to see the Gozanti, and in the 65-70 meter range at least. I think that would be perfect, and with the hookups for the ties on the bottom.. I wanna use some tacky stuff and stick 4 ties under it.. lol

That's a nice thought don't get me wrong,

but I think it will look somewhat off

since they won't be in the same scale.

I'd like to see the Gozanti, and in the 65-70 meter range at least. I think that would be perfect, and with the hookups for the ties on the bottom.. I wanna use some tacky stuff and stick 4 ties under it.. lol

That's a nice thought don't get me wrong,

but I think it will look somewhat off

since they won't be in the same scale.

Not what Lackwit was going for, 2 classes of the cruiser, a small, and large version, if I was reading him right a few posts up, this is what I was responding to.

My apologies if someone has noted it already, but on the Wookiee the 'Canon' page reads that it's 63.8m, while the 'Legends' page reads 41.8. I hope that's not just some fan posting their own visual calculations, because neither side seems to have a footnote citation.

Citations would certainly end the debate, but as it is things don't seem to line up:

That's fine.

By the way, I would have an easier time following your arguments if you would surround your images with more explanatory text, or have the texts that you have in the images be easier to read.

This is the only image I've added with text and it's pretty much all math

that some one interested in dimension should be able to follow

but for the sake of speaking English instead of math:

The width of the TIE fighter in pixels 103

The width of the Gozanti in pixels is 400

all rough by the way because it's at an angle.

The length of the TIE fighter which I took from a schematic image in pixels is 342

The length of a TIE miniature is supposed to be 3.3 cm

So I used that to calculate the width, which I suppose I could have measured

but I was playing with numbers so I just went with it.

That gave me a width for the TIE fighter of 291 pixels

and through fractional ratios I got the width of 2.8 cm

Which can't be right, now that I take my ruler to it, I get 3.4 cm

So the next correct step would be the 1/270 scale reversal

3.4 @ 1/270 works out to 9.18 meter width

So going back to the Gozanti at 400 pixels

and having the TIE fighter at 103 pixels

The ratio between the two is 3.88

Using the 9.18 meter TIE fighter figure

and mutilpying this by the 3.88 gives a (new)

figure for the width for the Gozanti of 35.62 meters.

Since this miniature won't be produced at 1/270 scale

the conversion to 1/400 scale is 3562 cm

divided by 400 equals a miniature that is 8.9 cm wide.

Which is pretty close to the same width as the Falcon / YT-1300.

How's that for explanatory text?

And again I add the caveat "would anyone care to check my math?"

They could easily just say that it's different Gozanti design. The CR90 is different sizes in episodes IV and VI so they retconed it to be two diferent blockade runner models.

They could easily just say that it's different Gozanti design. The CR90 is different sizes in episodes IV and VI so they retconed it to be two diferent blockade runner models.

Oh please, everyone knows they're Alderaan Cruisers.

Oh please, everyone knows they're Alderaan Cruisers.

...which has a canon length 126.68 meters,

while the CR90 is supposed to be 150 meters.

You were probably being sarcastic, but I looked up the lengths anyway.

Oh please, everyone knows they're Alderaan Cruisers.

Canon length 126.68 meters, the CR90 is supposed to be 150 meters.

Your reflexes weren't fast enough, looks like.

I updated the previous image and from the pixel dimensions and the other figures,
I would guess that if the of the ship is 35.62 meters wide and the mini 8.9 cm wide,
then the length would be roughly 123.09 meters, and a 1/400 miniature that is 30.8 cm long.
I measure my CR90 at 33.3 cm, so a little shorter than a CR90, and as wide as a YT-1300.

Now that is a ship that can carry TIE fighters on the game table with no problem.

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Now that is a ship that can carry TIE fighters on the game table with no problem.

Okay, so the point of your measurements were to figure out the size of the ship as a miniature as well as its in-universe size. I won't check your math (I'll trust it's good). The only caveat that I'll have is that the Rebels program doesn't seem to give a rat's rear end about proportionality. It's also ~2x the size currently mentioned as canon on the Wookiee, and ~3x that in the legends. But, who knows, it's all in flux and seemingly based on their desire to see it haul four TIE fighters into a combat situation, regardless of its earlier supposed size.

I'm not trying to rain on your work or the rightness of your findings. I suppose I'm just a little depressed about how little the owners of the intellectual property seem to care about doing their homework in order to establish continuity.

That said, maybe oneway and Captain Lackwit (an unlikely alliance) are on to something - maybe we're witnessing different models of in-universe craft based on a single style. That would definitely explain a lot of discrepancies. Maybe the Gozanti from TPM is the Gozanti-supermini and the Empire model is their Tahoe.

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Now that is a ship that can carry TIE fighters on the game table with no problem.

Okay, so the point of your measurements were to figure out the size of the ship as a miniature as well as its in-universe size. I won't check your math (I'll trust it's good). The only caveat that I'll have is that the Rebels program doesn't seem to give a rat's rear end about proportionality. It's also ~2x the size currently mentioned as canon on the Wookiee, and ~3x that in the legends. But, who knows, it's all in flux and seemingly based on their desire to see it haul four TIE fighters into a combat situation, regardless of its earlier supposed size.

I'm not trying to rain on your work or the rightness of your findings. I suppose I'm just a little depressed about how little the owners of the intellectual property seem to care about doing their homework in order to establish continuity.

That said, maybe oneway and Captain Lackwit (an unlikely alliance) are on to something - maybe we're witnessing different models of in-universe craft based on a single style. That would definitely explain a lot of discrepancies. Maybe the Gozanti from TPM is the Gozanti-supermini and the Empire model is their Tahoe.

And even if they weren't different models, we can always backpedal to the excuse of, "Well have we ever seen anyone standing next to one?"

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Now that is a ship that can carry TIE fighters on the game table with no problem.

Okay, so the point of your measurements were to figure out the size of the ship as a miniature as well as its in-universe size. I won't check your math (I'll trust it's good). The only caveat that I'll have is that the Rebels program doesn't seem to give a rat's rear end about proportionality. It's also ~2x the size currently mentioned as canon on the Wookiee, and ~3x that in the legends. But, who knows, it's all in flux and seemingly based on their desire to see it haul four TIE fighters into a combat situation, regardless of its earlier supposed size.

I'm not trying to rain on your work or the rightness of your findings. I suppose I'm just a little depressed about how little the owners of the intellectual property seem to care about doing their homework in order to establish continuity.

That said, maybe oneway and Captain Lackwit (an unlikely alliance) are on to something - maybe we're witnessing different models of in-universe craft based on a single style. That would definitely explain a lot of discrepancies. Maybe the Gozanti from TPM is the Gozanti-supermini and the Empire model is their Tahoe.

took me a minute - those are car references - I don't think it's impossible, but what are the precedents for that kind of reasoning? I can't think of another ship for which that was done for... with the exception of big triangles of different sizes that is.

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Now that is a ship that can carry TIE fighters on the game table with no problem.

Okay, so the point of your measurements were to figure out the size of the ship as a miniature as well as its in-universe size. I won't check your math (I'll trust it's good). The only caveat that I'll have is that the Rebels program doesn't seem to give a rat's rear end about proportionality. It's also ~2x the size currently mentioned as canon on the Wookiee, and ~3x that in the legends. But, who knows, it's all in flux and seemingly based on their desire to see it haul four TIE fighters into a combat situation, regardless of its earlier supposed size.

I'm not trying to rain on your work or the rightness of your findings. I suppose I'm just a little depressed about how little the owners of the intellectual property seem to care about doing their homework in order to establish continuity.

That said, maybe oneway and Captain Lackwit (an unlikely alliance) are on to something - maybe we're witnessing different models of in-universe craft based on a single style. That would definitely explain a lot of discrepancies. Maybe the Gozanti from TPM is the Gozanti-supermini and the Empire model is their Tahoe.

took me a minute - those are car references - I don't think it's impossible, but what are the precedents for that kind of reasoning? I can't think of another ship for which that was done for... with the exception of big triangles of different sizes that is.

Which The Empire just loves doing. Then there's the TIE series.

Hell all the Empire does is reshape their sh*t. "Make its wings pointier. Add wings in general. Give it another pair of domes. Make it longer. Make it squatty."

That's like all they ever do.

Huh... just don't forget my fine Wingers...this is all about fun.

took me a minute - those are car references - I don't think it's impossible, but what are the precedents for that kind of reasoning? I can't think of another ship for which that was done for... with the exception of big triangles of different sizes that is.

Well, yes, and triangles is (mostly) Kuat Drive Yards. However, there are also others. Corellian Engineering Corporation has (as you've seen) a lot of YT-series. These are in modestly different sizes, but are definitely working off a theme. This is also true of Ghtroc Industries, which has quite a few different models of space turtle. Let's not forget Sienar Systems.

Given that Gozanti is another CEC product, it's likely that the one we know from TPM and TCW is a particular model, and the one we see in Rebels is a newer larger model.

took me a minute - those are car references - I don't think it's impossible, but what are the precedents for that kind of reasoning? I can't think of another ship for which that was done for... with the exception of big triangles of different sizes that is.

Well, yes, and triangles is (mostly) Kuat Drive Yards. However, there are also others. Corellian Engineering Corporation has (as you've seen) a lot of YT-series. These are in modestly different sizes, but are definitely working off a theme. This is also true of Ghtroc Industries, which has quite a few different models of space turtle. Let's not forget Sienar Systems.

Given that Gozanti is another CEC product, it's likely that the one we know from TPM and TCW is a particular model, and the one we see in Rebels is a newer larger model.

Made for military and picket purposes!

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That said, maybe oneway and Captain Lackwit (an unlikely alliance) are on to something - maybe we're witnessing different models of in-universe craft based on a single style. That would definitely explain a lot of discrepancies. Maybe the Gozanti from TPM is the Gozanti-supermini and the Empire model is their Tahoe.

took me a minute - those are car references - I don't think it's impossible, but what are the precedents for that kind of reasoning? I can't think of another ship for which that was done for... with the exception of big triangles of different sizes that is.

Corellian Corvette, this is why we have CR 90s and CR70s

Victory class SDs, are partly due to this different size issue from source to source.

can't think of others off the top of my head.. and no, I don't have any other resource other than my memory.

Corellian Corvette, this is why we have CR 90s and CR70s

GET WITH THE TIMES ITS AN ALDERAAN CRUISER

i am seriously kidding

LOL.. pssssssshhhhhh There is no Alderaan..

LOL.. pssssssshhhhhh There is no Alderaan..

Well...

Not anymore...

<Insert deep Hutt laughter>

Tarkin only did it because Leia said Alderaan things...Thank you. i'll be here all week

Was she looking for love in Alderaan places???

You Meanies!

Come on man.. she kissed her brother lol