Wonderwaaaaaaaaugh,

Is there any way in which FFG could satisfy you with a third faction?

Well, more Orks would be a start.

Honestly, I'm happy with what we have right now. It's been almost a year and I'm still not bored with wave 3. Let me get bored of wave five before I make up my mind on what else I want in the game.

When faced with the possibility of introducing radical change into a system which already works incredibly well, which is the most natural assumption: that the game will a) stay the same, b) get even better, or c) get worse?

What radical change? What we're talking about is almost entirely a cosmetic, perception issue. A little rebranding, change a couple icons and just a note for the designers that some minor mechanical effects favor the new faction.

Your entire issue is an inability to see that we are really talking about a very very small change in how FFG actually develop the game. All you can see are the much larger end user perception changes and the fact that you don't like the idea personally is blinding you to the realities.

I'm not so vehemently against the idea that it's blinded me, not by a long shot. I've said numerous times that what I'm against is the risk involved, and I don't know how else to phrase it to get the point across. If all you think is going to happen are minor changes in "perception," then why bother at all? If the game isn't going to change that much (another assumption, given the chance of unforeseen consequences), I'd just as soon it not change at all. Seriously, why can't people be happy with what they already have?

So, FFG can keep doing what they're already doing and everyone wins, or they can potentially lose business by overextending themselves and alienating a portion of the player base.

Or they can bring in new blood to the game expanding the community even more.

The game is already incredibly successful, with a growing player base as we speak. I don't think new blood is an issue at the moment.

Also, I don't understand why there are a few people so vehemently opposed to extra factions. If someone only likes 2 factions, then just buy the 2 factions. It's just like the anti-EU players – they don't need to buy a Moldy Crow or TIE Phantom (which I just picked up!)

That's getting to be a pretty stale argument, and one that Vanor has already addressed. I may or may not choose to play with ships from another faction, but I can't stop them from being part of the game. I can't tell my opponent he can't use those ships, whether at the kitchen table or at a tournament, simply because I disagree with their inclusion in the game. To pretend like I can just cover my ears and say "la la la la I can't hear you, you don't exist!" is pure naïveté.

Everyone should stop talking to themselves and let this thread die.

Yes, it is. It wasn't in the movies, that by definition makes it EU. An awful lot of people, I have noticed, radically mis understand just how much information is part of the EU

The falcon being a YT-1300 is EU

So is Han winning the falcon from lando

Astro mechs storing hyperdrive coordinates

Ans so on

I'm pretty sure Han says "You lost her to me fair and square" in Cloud CIty - so no that isn't EU. Specific details about it probably are, such as the game of Sabacc (I believe). But the fact that han won the falcon from Lando is directly referenced in episode 5.

Yes this is just nitpicking, sorry man not trying to be a nitpicker lol!

If all you think is going to happen are minor changes in "perception," then why bother at all? If the game isn't going to change that much (another assumption, given the chance of unforeseen consequences), I'd just as soon it not change at all.

Again, you fail to actually read and comprehend what someone wrote. I said

"very very small change in how FFG actually develop the game."

And

"much larger end user perception change"

Your entire argument has been that FFG messing about with stuff to make a third faction would risk screwing up the game. My point is that a new faction would change what FFG needs to do very little. The bigger change would be to the appearance of the game to the players. Now, this is not an insignificant factor, but thus far your argument has been that it would throw off FFGs side of things.

Oh, and

If the game isn't going to change that much (another assumption, given the chance of unforeseen consequences), I'd just as soon it not change at all.

Yes, it is. It wasn't in the movies, that by definition makes it EU. An awful lot of people, I have noticed, radically mis understand just how much information is part of the EU

The falcon being a YT-1300 is EU So is Han winning the falcon from lando

Astro mechs storing hyperdrive coordinates

Ans so on

I'm pretty sure Han says "You lost her to me fair and square" in Cloud CIty - so no that isn't EU. Specific details about it probably are, such as the game of Sabacc (I believe). But the fact that han won the falcon from Lando is directly referenced in episode 5.

Yes this is just nitpicking, sorry man not trying to be a nitpicker lol!

Edited original post to correct that.

I find it interesting that whenever there seems to be a heated debate on this board that the one guy who has repeatedly shown no ability to see things from someone else's point of view has thrown himself into the middle of it.

A guy who reports people for having a sense of humor different to his and thinks we give a ____ what he thinks.

You cannot reason with an unreasonable person, so guys. Stop trying to reason with the ork.

He has made up his mind and he isn't going to change it.

Best case scenario = FFG decides a 3rd faction is a good idea. They release ships for it, then the ork stops playing the game, then i get to stop reading his post VIA people quoting him to try and reason with him. That in its self is worth having a 3rd faction.

peace out homies

i say again...........

Oh, and

If the game isn't going to change that much (another assumption, given the chance of unforeseen consequences), I'd just as soon it not change at all.

So you the possibility of it changing IS what concerns you.

Oy vey. Yes, I'm against change... for the same reason that I've already stated numerous times here, which would be the inherent risk involved. I honestly didn't think I'd have to repeat myself after I just got done explaining it.

Everyone should stop talking to themselves and let this thread die.

I'm waiting until we get to page 30, then I'm going to start talking about A-Wings and sportsmanship.

I'm waiting until we get to page 30, then I'm going to start talking about A-Wings and sportsmanship.

No, we need to discuss whether it is sportsmanly for the A-Wing to try and avoid a falcon fortress by hiding behind the obviously soon to be released star destroyer model for the inevitable clone wars 2nd edition of the game. Oh, and can you guys comment on a list for me in a new sub forum.

I'm waiting until we get to page 30, then I'm going to start talking about A-Wings and sportsmanship.

No, we need to discuss whether it is sportsmanly for the A-Wing to try and avoid a falcon fortress by hiding behind the obviously soon to be released star destroyer model for the inevitable clone wars 2nd edition of the game. Oh, and can you guys comment on a list for me in a new sub forum.

we could speculate on what ships might be coming out in wave 6.

i dont think we have 4 of those going at the moment....

Will the next wave have a Star Destroyer?

Will the next wave have a Star Destroyer?

If it was in the card art, then yes.

Oh, and

If the game isn't going to change that much (another assumption, given the chance of unforeseen consequences), I'd just as soon it not change at all.

So you the possibility of it changing IS what concerns you.

Oy vey. Yes, I'm against change... for the same reason that I've already stated numerous times here, which would be the inherent risk involved. I honestly didn't think I'd have to repeat myself after I just got done explaining it.

Everyone should stop talking to themselves and let this thread die.

I'm waiting until we get to page 30, then I'm going to start talking about A-Wings and sportsmanship.

Then why complain when you're being talked to like someones extra conservative grandpa?

C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

Guys.

Guys.

This is probably the most accurate, succinct observation made yet. I approve.

Wonderwaaaaaaaaugh,

Is there any way in which FFG could satisfy you with a third faction?

Well, more Orks would be a start.

Honestly, I'm happy with what we have right now. It's been almost a year and I'm still not bored with wave 3. Let me get bored of wave five before I make up my mind on what else I want in the game.

I can dig that. I've been meaning to get a playmat of the misty mountains - It'd be fun to have a spaceship battle in low orbit over middle earth....

Any excuse to block with an Academy Pilot and shout "you shall not pass!"

Gandarf in a TIE Fighter = OP

Twice, both after wave 3 was released.

Wow, that's actually kinda shocking considering how poorly it's thought of in general.

actually, dragons, giant eagles, Pegasus, and all other kinds of fantasy flying creatures would make a cool flight path game.

knights with lances riding on these beasts

breath weapons

wizards casting spells

airships for dwarves

actually, dragons, giant eagles, Pegasus, and all other kinds of fantasy flying creatures would make a cool flight path game.

knights with lances riding on these beasts

breath weapons

wizards casting spells

airships for dwarves

Someone recently told me that a dragon one is on the way from somewhere.

Yeah WizKids is making a flight path game using dragons.

actually, dragons, giant eagles, Pegasus, and all other kinds of fantasy flying creatures would make a cool flight path game.

knights with lances riding on these beasts

breath weapons

wizards casting spells

airships for dwarves

Someone recently told me that a dragon one is on the way from somewhere.

Yeah WizKids is making a flight path game using dragons.

Dang, I did not realize it was Wizkids who was doing it.

Depression.