Wave 5 Ships!

By SDCC, in X-Wing

I used to own one in Star Wars Galaxies (the MMO). So many fond memories of that ship...

So that's where it comes from. I knew Outrider but the VT was a mystery to me.

VT-49. I called it!

For those with a sharp eye, the YT-2400 was already kind of spoiled by the Outmaneuver upgrade card. ;)

(facepalm)

What happens if you put Vader on the new Imp ship and you score three hit with a prox mine on say four ships? Do you only use his crit ability one time to change the hits to crits OR do you just instantly die?

…so much wrong here.

(1) As noted, Proximity Mines aren't an attack and don't trigger Vader.

(2) Proximity Mines only hit one ship.

(3) Vader doesn't change hits to crits.

Do you have a refrence for 1 and 2.

For those with a sharp eye, the YT-2400 was already kind of spoiled by the Outmaneuver upgrade card. ;)

(facepalm)

What happens if you put Vader on the new Imp ship and you score three hit with a prox mine on say four ships? Do you only use his crit ability one time to change the hits to crits OR do you just instantly die?

…so much wrong here.

(1) As noted, Proximity Mines aren't an attack and don't trigger Vader.

(2) Proximity Mines only hit one ship.

(3) Vader doesn't change hits to crits.

Do you have a refrence for 1 and 2.

The "Detonation" rules card that came with the Firespray-31 tells you how its two bombs work.

If Prox Mines were an attack, the defender would be allowed to roll Green dice, among other interactions. They don't. Can't outrun the fireball, after all.

For those with a sharp eye, the YT-2400 was already kind of spoiled by the Outmaneuver upgrade card. ;)

(facepalm)

What happens if you put Vader on the new Imp ship and you score three hit with a prox mine on say four ships? Do you only use his crit ability one time to change the hits to crits OR do you just instantly die?

…so much wrong here.

(1) As noted, Proximity Mines aren't an attack and don't trigger Vader.

(2) Proximity Mines only hit one ship.

(3) Vader doesn't change hits to crits.

Do you have a refrence for 1 and 2.

Does the Proximity Mine card say "ATTACK:" on it?

I'll have to admit, I had to hit the wiki for the VT-49. Nice nod to the old SWG veterans.

More than anything though, I am extremely excited about the Imperial only crew. I've been whining about the lack of Imperial crew for quite some time now and by the stars do the two revealed ones look amazing! :D

(1) As noted, Proximity Mines aren't an attack and don't trigger Vader.

(2) Proximity Mines only hit one ship.

(3) Vader doesn't change hits to crits.

Do you have a refrence for 1 and 2.

Sideslip and Dracon took care of #1, and #2 is taken care of by logic.

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The Mines are triggered when a ship or its maneuver template overlap the token; at that time, the token detonates and is removed. Since it's removed after the first ship hits it, and the reference card only says you deal damage to that ship, Proximity Mines can only ever hit one ship.

For those with a sharp eye, the YT-2400 was already kind of spoiled by the Outmaneuver upgrade card. ;)

(facepalm)

What happens if you put Vader on the new Imp ship and you score three hit with a prox mine on say four ships? Do you only use his crit ability one time to change the hits to crits OR do you just instantly die?

…so much wrong here.

(1) As noted, Proximity Mines aren't an attack and don't trigger Vader.

(2) Proximity Mines only hit one ship.

(3) Vader doesn't change hits to crits.

Do you have a refrence for 1 and 2.

Does the Proximity Mine card say "ATTACK:" on it?

You roll three attack dice for the ship that touches it.

Still isn't an attack...

Still isn't an attack...

Yes it is an attack.

No, it is not. There is an action to deploy the token. Then it follows the proximity mine rule. The cards do not have the " ATTACK: " header.

No, it is not. There is an action to deploy the token. Then it follows the proximity mine rule. The cards do not have the " ATTACK: " header.

You roll three attack dice, ergo your attacking an enemy.

No, it is not. There is an action to deploy the token. Then it follows the proximity mine rule. The cards do not have the " ATTACK: " header.

You roll three attack dice, ergo your attacking an enemy.

That's not the definition of an attack. Check the FAQ for more.

You are not rolling. The person who overlaps rolls the dice. This could even be one of your ships.

So no Vader.

End of.

No, it is not. There is an action to deploy the token. Then it follows the proximity mine rule. The cards do not have the " ATTACK: " header.

You roll three attack dice, ergo your attacking an enemy.

Actually, the player who hits the obstacle rolls the attack dice and suffers whatever damage they roll, similar to hitting an asteroid. The player does not attack himself when he hits obstacles. Laying a bomb costs an action, it says so on the card, therefore it is an action.

YAY! I finally don't have to read any more threads from woeful imperials! You have turrets and more crew now. Please go back to enjoying the game!

It all looks cool to me. Although I don't agree with Dash being PS 7. He should absolutely be 8. Oh well. Yippie!

No, it is not. There is an action to deploy the token. Then it follows the proximity mine rule. The cards do not have the " ATTACK: " header.

You roll three attack dice, ergo your attacking an enemy.

In a colloquial sense, yes. In technical rule terms, no.

Rulebook page 10:

Combat Phase

During this phase, each ship may perform one attack ...

That, and the seven combat steps listed on the same page, define the term "perform an attack".

No, it is not. There is an action to deploy the token. Then it follows the proximity mine rule. The cards do not have the " ATTACK: " header.

You roll three attack dice, ergo your attacking an enemy.

In a colloquial sense, yes. In technical rule terms, no.

Rulebook page 10:

Combat Phase

During this phase, each ship may perform one attack ...

That, and the seven combat steps listed on the same page, define the term "perform an attack".

This was written before the creation of bombs and mines in the game though, the most recent rules for special things will overide the core rules.

by the stars do the two revealed ones look amazing! :D

Four. Ysanne Isard, Mara Jade, Fleet Officer and what looks like Moff Jerjerrod.

For those with a sharp eye, the YT-2400 was already kind of spoiled by the Outmaneuver upgrade card. ;)

Spoiled like the Star Destroyer, Recusant and Death Star? FFG gets card art from all over and freely shares it around. It doesn't foreshadow in the slightest.

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No, it is not. There is an action to deploy the token. Then it follows the proximity mine rule. The cards do not have the " ATTACK: " header.

You roll three attack dice, ergo your attacking an enemy.

In a colloquial sense, yes. In technical rule terms, no.

Rulebook page 10:

Combat Phase

During this phase, each ship may perform one attack ...

That, and the seven combat steps listed on the same page, define the term "perform an attack".

This was written before the creation of bombs and mines in the game though, the most recent rules for special things will overide the core rules.

Every secondary weapon that has been released has the "Attack" header. Even the ones from Wave 2 and later.

Bombs don't.

Either you're dense or you're trolling, but either way you're wrong.

No, it is not. There is an action to deploy the token. Then it follows the proximity mine rule. The cards do not have the " ATTACK: " header.

You roll three attack dice, ergo your attacking an enemy.

In a colloquial sense, yes. In technical rule terms, no.

Rulebook page 10:

Combat Phase

During this phase, each ship may perform one attack ...

That, and the seven combat steps listed on the same page, define the term "perform an attack".

This was written before the creation of bombs and mines in the game though, the most recent rules for special things will overide the core rules.

Fine, the bomb rules supersede the core rules, but where in the bomb rules does it say your are attacking? If all you are going on is that you are rolling 3 "attack" dice, I think you need to learn the difference between adjectives and verbs.

I'm sorry but did I just see 12 HULL? FOR REAL? That thing is a monster!

What is wrong with you Black Knight Leader?

Either you're dense or you're trolling, but either way you're wrong.

I am starting to suspect the latter.

YAY! I finally don't have to read any more threads from woeful imperials! You have turrets and more crew now. Please go back to enjoying the game!

Actually, the problem with the Imperials was never that we didn't have turrets, but that turrets completely negate the main defense of TIE's (staying out of firing arcs). So technically, the main problems just got worse since there's now twice the amount of turrets on the field. :P