Bring Out the Big Guns! Wave 5 announcement

By dvorm, in X-Wing

The issue with that Dash and Chewie squad is that there absolutely no incentive to attack Chewie at all, thus using Jan to boost Chewie's evasiveness is a waste.

For a "Stressimator" loadout, how about Mara, Tactician, and Rebel Captive?

You could, you could. I personally prefer the more aggressive style of two tacs and a Mara which would punish the enemy for being attacked instead of punishing him for attacking me.

You could also go for 2 Tacs and a Gunner, for potentially stressing out two ships for two turns, as long as they are in the firing arc.

I thought you could only put one of a give crew card on a ship?

Nope, it's open season unless the crew card in question is unique (dot next to the name) or limited ("Limited" would be in italic text on the first line of the card text).

The issue with that Dash and Chewie squad is that there absolutely no incentive to attack Chewie at all, thus using Jan to boost Chewie's evasiveness is a waste.

The incentive is that if you go after Dash he can "off-road" and BR with a large base. I think he'll end up being real slippery.

Of course, the dial could end up being terrible. We'll have to wait and see.

Decimator is an odd name. Should I really be scared of a ship, that based on its name, will only kill 10% of my ships?

... Huh, I completely forgot decimate had other, less substantial sounding meanings. Guess I never hear it much outside of the "to destroy a great number or proportion of" definition.

I think he got it backwards. Decimate should be to reduce to 10%, so it should destroy 90% of the opponent's list.

Decimate absolutely means to take away 1 tenth of something (10%). Decimeter is a tenth of a meter. Decimal system, by tenths. The prefix is Deci meaning a tenth. Not reduce to, reduce by.

Only recently has the word started to mean to destroy all of something. I think that's due to the sinister sound of it.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/decimate?s=t

Only recently has the word started to mean to destroy all of something. I think that's due to the sinister sound of it.

You're absolutely right on the original denotation. But using it to mean "kill off a lot of" isn't new at all--the Oxford English Dictonary online quotes a manuscript from 1663 (Spencer, "A discourse concerning prodigies…") as follows:

The… Lord… sometimes decimates a multitude of offenders, and discovers in the personal sufferings of a few what all deserve.

And there are a lot of uses from the 19th century to mean basically the same thing.

Only recently has the word started to mean to destroy all of something. I think that's due to the sinister sound of it.

You're absolutely right on the original denotation. But using it to mean "kill off a lot of" isn't new at all--the Oxford English Dictonary online quotes a manuscript from 1663 (Spencer, "A discourse concerning prodigies…") as follows:

The… Lord… sometimes decimates a multitude of offenders, and discovers in the personal sufferings of a few what all deserve.

And there are a lot of uses from the 19th century to mean basically the same thing.

To be honest, I've never seen "decimate" used in the sense of "reduce by one tenth" in English, only in Latin.

This decimate discussion reminds me of a similar discussion that happened in a book.

Wow,I just read this whole thread. I have so many thoughts and things I want to say, but I think it is pretty likely that no one else is going to read this whole thing, so they probably won't read what I write here. I think I will put my thoughts in other threads.

Guess we'll see a lot of people putting Stealth Device on it ...

Certainly not.
I was just spitballing thinking of ways to boost that Agility somehow.. There must be some other way to get it above 0..

You will gain agility through range 3 and asteroids/ debre. Maybe some sort of unspoiled action or title will be included as well.

No, you gain agility *dice*, not agility value. This distinction is important, because Wedge and Outmaneuver cannot take away the extra dice you get from obstacles and Range 3 shots.

Um… maybe? The thing is that I think there are ways in which the Decimator is easier to counter. The Falcon has a lot of defensive tricks (and more coming); I can't say what the Decimator might be able to do for upgrades, but at the moment that 0 Agility looks like an awful risk.

"I'm taking an awful risk, Vader. This had better work."

You may ignore obstacles in the Activation Phase and for the purposes of Actions. You CANNOT still attack if you overlap an obstacle. Suddenly seems a lot less awesome...

Barrel roll

Yeah they are representing the Force with this one, and it is cool. Jedi and Force Sensitive pilots should be able to sense the presence of many things in the game.

[Lando Calrissian]
Very cool, and really want to try him and Han in the same ship (Chewie takes the wheel while they're in the back arguing about which of the two of them owns it?).

Han and Lando give Chewie conflicting orders which action to perform.

Basically it would be fore those times you leave one hull on an academy that needs to be finished off and you want it dead, and the DeciVader can absorb those hits better than a Doom SHuttle (and not require a second ship to shoot said target to activate it)

A doom shuttle does not activate Vader if a second ship attacks. Vader activates only if his own ride attacks.

[Lando Calrissian]
Very cool, and really want to try him and Han in the same ship (Chewie takes the wheel while they're in the back arguing about which of the two of them owns it?).

Han and Lando give Chewie conflicting orders which action to perform.

True, I meant to say that Chewie would be Pushing the Limit.

I plan on running a titless outrider with heavy Laser...

Did he really just say what I think he said...?! O.o

Only recently has the word started to mean to destroy all of something. I think that's due to the sinister sound of it.

You're absolutely right on the original denotation. But using it to mean "kill off a lot of" isn't new at all--the Oxford English Dictonary online quotes a manuscript from 1663 (Spencer, "A discourse concerning prodigies…") as follows:

The… Lord… sometimes decimates a multitude of offenders, and discovers in the personal sufferings of a few what all deserve.

And there are a lot of uses from the 19th century to mean basically the same thing.

Decimation comes from the Latin, and was originally a punishment for Roman troops who performed poorly in battle. Every ten guys would draw lots and the one that pulled the bad lot was beaten to death by his 9 friends. It was rarely used but it did happen. You don't get much more brutal than beating your friend to death. It's a demoralizing thing and it fits a giant heavily armed imperial ship.

I plan on running a titless outrider with heavy Laser...

Did he really just say what I think he said...?! O.o

The adjective fits the grammatical gender of "outrider". :rolleyes:

I think he means a YT-2400 without the "outrider" title card. In rule terms, you cannot call that "outrider" at all.

Edited by dvor

Someone asked why the imperial huge ships might be in the pipe line before Reb aces in the numbers, well it makes perfect sense if they were working on the imperial huge already and just taking their time. Set on the schedule perhaps before the reb aces as I mean less work has to be put into a repaint, with some new cards. By less work I mean just less production time as planning out and setting up a whole huge ship. So they could have been set up on que before the reb aces, which may have been thought up because of how popular imperial aces was sizing up to be. Just a hunch.

So assuming the two large ships are all of wave 5, perhaps they wish to switch to a 2 ship wave schedule. So Assuming two Imp Huges, we could have another 2 ship wave 6 already planned out, or another couple ace type sets.

I'm just pondering here so could be wrong, but I wouldn't put anything past FFG as they've been ramping up releases lately.

The only thing that the Falcon has that the Decimator doesn't is 1 agility die, and the ability to get Evade tokens.

The Decimator has the Falcon completely outclassed as far as HP and Upgrades go.

The Lvl 8 pilot costs the exact same as Han Solo, by the bye.

There seems to be an evade token in the decimator picture

Anyone mention Ion Torpedo? It has to be pretty cheap, 2 points?

Does it?

I would guess 3pts at a minimum to = the cost of the Ion missiles

Depends a lot on what they do, I can't imagine them being the same as the ion pulse missile, so... Who knows, maybe they are 12 points and ammmmmaaaaaazzzzzzziiiiinnnngggg

For the math challenged, when a Devastator goes up against the CR-90's turbolasers... you can double it's agility for your defense dice!

0 * 2 = 0

Enjoy that defense roll buddy.

well, if it has Stealth Device, you would get 2, since the text of it reads "Increase your agility value by 1." That would be very interesting for an interceptor, Advanced, Defender or TIE who had it, seeing as that would be 8 evade dice.

Haven't seen anyone mention this, so i think I can read:

Tac-

Jam-

Modifica-

Your sh-

eva-

Tactical Jammer

Modification. Your ship gains the evade action.

My body is ready.

Also it looks like another shake up to this wave is that the Decimator has 3 named pilots, and not 2. Furthermore, that PS 4 named pilot also has an EPT slot like the two higher PS guys.

Also it looks like another shake up to this wave is that the Decimator has 3 named pilots, and not 2. Furthermore, that PS 4 named pilot also has an EPT slot like the two higher PS guys.

Three named pilots, just like all of the other large ships?

'M curiouse on the middle rule card on the decimator.

Also it looks like another shake up to this wave is that the Decimator has 3 named pilots, and not 2. Furthermore, that PS 4 named pilot also has an EPT slot like the two higher PS guys.

Three named pilots, just like all of the other large ships?

He's right, all the large base ship (YT-1300, Firespray and Shuttle) has 3 named pilot and one generic. Seems to be the norm.