Bring Out the Big Guns! Wave 5 announcement

By dvorm, in X-Wing

Very curious about the debris cloud tokens. Drop them if your ship is destroyed?

i don't think so, the destroyed ships look like fighters (i see a TIE in the YT group, and a B-Wing in the Decimator group).

Decimator is an odd name. Should I really be scared of a ship, that based on its name, will only kill 10% of my ships?

It's just a name that a lot of people think is cool, and that's the point, to sell more ships.

The face up Modification Card's title says Cou- Mea-

I'm guessing Counter Measure. the visible text reads as follows:

At the start--

phase, you--

card to inc--

value by--

the roun--

remove--

from--

Gonna take a guess, feel free to chime in:

At the start of the combat

phase, you may discard this

card to increase your agility

value by ___ until the end of the

round-------------

remove------------

from your ship.

Thoughts?

round as well as

remove any red target locks

?

But 3 focus and 1 evade token on Soontir with a stealth device? Bring on the pain! :lol:

How we have now 3 un accounted for. Is it possible, perhaps that there will be another Aces type release in there, as well as 2 imperial huge ships ? That would then account for up to the product codes we know of. Perhaps the Aces pack will be the Advanced plus mystery ship ? Not to speculate too much but I can't see the imperial huges not being in the release schedule.

Not arguing with your logic about Epic releases for the Empire, but I'm wondering what makes everyone think the Huge ships must be in the release schedule ahead of Rebel Aces.

Very curious about the debris cloud tokens. Drop them if your ship is destroyed?

i don't think so, the destroyed ships look like fighters (i see a TIE in the YT group, and a B-Wing in the Decimator group).

Correct. The YT-2400 has a blown TIE and TIE/B. The VT-49 has the wrecks of an X-wing and B-wing. (I said it before, but I think that's a classy touch by FFG.) Anyway, surely part of the missions for each. I doubt they get dropped when a ship is destroyed because it would be odd if they didn't match the ship that was lost. That being said, I'll be they have an effect different from asteroids. Maybe they only hit ships without shields and can be fired through? Something like that.

Another death for interceptor lists? Somebody better tell them! ;) Vader would only be giving a crit to two interceptors a turn if gunner actually activates, though it is true that it could be devastating, I think things will have to fall the right way. Also, it's not like this combo isn't available already, though it would be easier to pull off than on the shuttle. It will be interesting to see, the decimator is going to be taking damage very easily itself, so just because it has a lot of hit points doesn't mean it could/should toss those around.

Agreed. Putting Vader on anything other than the shuttle does not feel right to me.

This thing may be the closest we get to an Executor. Vader approved of that ship. Lambdas are imperial taxis. You don't take a taxi to war.

I've never even heard of the Decimator, and I'm a pretty good SW geek. The beast is lovely, though! And I have to say - I may have to eat a little bit of crow here - having a relatively obscure ship like this, that costs more than your typical Large, tells me that all bets are off. Who the Hell knows what they'll come up with. This is just awesome.

Oh yeah - YT-2400. Another nod to the fans! Great to see FFG actually paying attention to what their clientele wants.

Decimator is an odd name. Should I really be scared of a ship, that based on its name, will only kill 10% of my ships?

You should be scared of ship that would cause your units to desert, and hence deserve decimation.

Decimator is an odd name. Should I really be scared of a ship, that based on its name, will only kill 10% of my ships?

It's just a name that a lot of people think is cool, and that's the point, to sell more ships.

I don't think he was serious.

Also, Fleet Officer on a ship with Advanced Sensors, anyone?"

Wow. A Fleet Officer in a lambda shuttle with Advanced Sensors turns it into a really nice support ship.

You can pick a green maneuver, but before the move you take your Fleet Officer action to hand out some focus candy to the bombers on your wing, and your stress token. But then you execute your green maneuver and shed the stress.

It's like an Imperial Kyle Katarn but with 3 attack and a better dial. And yes, that's the only legitimate time you can say that a shuttle has a better dial.

Decimator is an odd name. Should I really be scared of a ship, that based on its name, will only kill 10% of my ships?

You should be scared of ship that would cause your units to desert, and hence deserve decimation.

I think I'm with Rinehart on this one. My guess is that the Decimator flies around shooting TIEs that miss their shots or run in to other ships.

The new crew breath a lot of life back in the shuttle. New releases will continue to improve that ship. I really hope we start seeing more stuff for the Firespray though... PRISONER/CAPTIVE subtype... where you can steal rebel only cards for a benefit of some kind.

For the math challenged, when a Devastator goes up against the CR-90's turbolasers... you can double it's agility for your defense dice!

0 * 2 = 0

Enjoy that defense roll buddy.

Uggghhh Vader on decimator is going to hurt. Lol imp players gonna say how broken and op the imps are against themselves ;)

I hope when imp huge ships come out vader isn't allowed.

Also, Fleet Officer on a ship with Advanced Sensors, anyone?"

Wow. A Fleet Officer in a lambda shuttle with Advanced Sensors turns it into a really nice support ship.

You can pick a green maneuver, but before the move you take your Fleet Officer action to hand out some focus candy to the bombers on your wing, and your stress token. But then you execute your green maneuver and shed the stress.

It's like an Imperial Kyle Katarn but with 3 attack and a better dial. And yes, that's the only legitimate time you can say that a shuttle has a better dial.

A very versatile card that fills a needed niche for the Empire.

I'm so putting Mara on a Phantom. Oh look, you just took a 5 die attack. And guess what, now your stressed!

Carnor with Mara nearby is going to be really annoying to deal with.

Decimator is an odd name. Should I really be scared of a ship, that based on its name, will only kill 10% of my ships?

... Huh, I completely forgot decimate had other, less substantial sounding meanings. Guess I never hear it much outside of the "to destroy a great number or proportion of" definition.

Anyway, I am not that concerned about the lack of agility on the Decimator. Yes, it means we'll eat every hit that comes our way (providing none of the new crew cards let us deal with this) but with Outmaneuver this was going to be a very high possibility anyway.

Also, Fleet Officer on a ship with Advanced Sensors, anyone?"

The part I love is how you pass out Focus tokens, not actions. So you can give your Squints double Focus tokens to ensure they have them for defense. Or use them with ordinance-loaded bombers.

Damnit, now Deadeye is Viable.

I'm so putting Mara on a Phantom. Oh look, you just took a 5 die attack. And guess what, now your stressed!

Carnor with Mara nearby is going to be really annoying to deal with.

No, Mara will be riding shotgun with Kath. Long live the Scarlet Cowgirls! And unlike the Captive, Mara doesn't directly aid the war criminal Keyan Farlander by handing him a stress token during his attack.

The Vader dominator combo will be the death of interceptor lists. Vader and gunner can give a crit to two interceptors a turn. Swarms will give it all kinds of problems unless there is something out there we don't know about but lists of fewer ships will have big problems. Very anxious to see the other upgrades. I'm still hoping for a reinforce action mod or EPT. The bomb slot kind of tells me it doesn't k-turn. If they come up behind drop a bomb and watch them spat. Phantom will have a tough time with that list too. Can't dodge its arc. Vader crew can always hit maybe twice with gunner. Biggs will be vital against this. B wings and Biggs will have the best chance against this. Stoked about both of these ships.

Another death for interceptor lists? Somebody better tell them! ;) Vader would only be giving a crit to two interceptors a turn if gunner actually activates, though it is true that it could be devastating, I think things will have to fall the right way. Also, it's not like this combo isn't available already, though it would be easier to pull off than on the shuttle. It will be interesting to see, the decimator is going to be taking damage very easily itself, so just because it has a lot of hit points doesn't mean it could/should toss those around.

DeciVader with a Gunner will be devastating to Interceptors for this reason: You can force Gunner to trigger with Target Lock. Lock on to Interceptor 1. Spend Target Lock to reroll hits, hoping for focus or blank results. Activate Vader, dealing a critical to that Interceptor. Activate Gunner, Target the higher priority Interceptor, if you get hits through, good for you, AND you can still activate Darth Vader, dealing that one a crit as well. OR you could target the original target again, guaranteeing 2 crits against the same ship.

Guaranteeing 2 crits against those pesky dancing interceptor pilots may or may not be worth it. Against a 4-int list, possibly. Against a bigger list or swarm, probably not.

Part of what I was getting at was that for a build to be viable, it has to be viable against more than just one type of ship/build. So, if Decivader is bad for interceptors but isn't a wise build against swarms, falcons, or b-wings, it doesn't really matter.

See previous proclamations of how the interceptor was dead because of flèchette torpedoes and the new droid. However, at least so far, those points have seen better use elsewhere and so interceptors haven't been affected by them. In fact, they're probably seeing more top tables than ever, based on the regional results they are the third most used ship. I actually think the greatest threat to the interceptor is not a hard counter to it but the phantom, which may simply replace it in a lot of lists.

Also, Fleet Officer on a ship with Advanced Sensors, anyone?"

Wow. A Fleet Officer in a lambda shuttle with Advanced Sensors turns it into a really nice support ship.

You can pick a green maneuver, but before the move you take your Fleet Officer action to hand out some focus candy to the bombers on your wing, and your stress token. But then you execute your green maneuver and shed the stress.

It's like an Imperial Kyle Katarn but with 3 attack and a better dial. And yes, that's the only legitimate time you can say that a shuttle has a better dial.

The part I love is how you pass out Focus tokens, not actions. So you can give your Squints double Focus tokens to ensure they have them for defense. Or use them with ordinance-loaded bombers.

A very versatile card that fills a needed niche for the Empire.

It might make Major Ryhmer with ATPs actually viable.... or any ordnance toting Tie bomber.

Lowest PS Decimator w/ FO with two Gammas loaded to the gills with Torps and Rockets...

Edited by Jo Jo

I'm so putting Mara on a Phantom. Oh look, you just took a 5 die attack. And guess what, now your stressed!

Carnor with Mara nearby is going to be really annoying to deal with.

I can't justify Mara in a Phantom. Those really beg for a Recon Specialist.

If you're flying Whisper you're already drowning in focus tokens anyway. Best to give the co-pilot seat to Mara when Whisper's your pilot in my opinion. Refusing other ships their focus, target locks or special maneuvers while you're hammering them sounds like a good deal.

Decimator is an odd name. Should I really be scared of a ship, that based on its name, will only kill 10% of my ships?

... Huh, I completely forgot decimate had other, less substantial sounding meanings. Guess I never hear it much outside of the "to destroy a great number or proportion of" definition.

Decimator is an odd name. Should I really be scared of a ship, that based on its name, will only kill 10% of my ships?

... Huh, I completely forgot decimate had other, less substantial sounding meanings. Guess I never hear it much outside of the "to destroy a great number or proportion of" definition.

I think he got it backwards. Decimate should be to reduce to 10%, so it should destroy 90% of the opponent's list.

Original Latin meaning is reduce by 1/10. Common usage in English is reduce to 1/10.

So right now on their product page they have the YT-2400 priced at $30, but the Decimator is priced at $40. I wondering why it's more expensive then the other large ships.

Same concept as the transport and CR-90

Edited by Baphomet69