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By tintip, in X-Wing

I've never been suspect of anyone's dice but at the imdaar tourney the last round I played the guy would roll 3 defense dice and got 3 evades 3 times in a row and another guy was watching our game and said to me "ya he does that" so apparently it happened in his game too. Could be just luck but then again maybe not. I don't know but it was the first time I suspected something. Anyone know the probability of rolling 3 dice and showing 3 evades 3 times in a row? Just curious is all.

The odds of successfully rolling nine evades on nine rolls is approximately 6802:1!

I've never been suspect of anyone's dice but at the imdaar tourney the last round I played the guy would roll 3 defense dice and got 3 evades 3 times in a row and another guy was watching our game and said to me "ya he does that" so apparently it happened in his game too. Could be just luck but then again maybe not. I don't know but it was the first time I suspected something. Anyone know the probability of rolling 3 dice and showing 3 evades 3 times in a row? Just curious is all.

The odds of successfully rolling nine evades on nine rolls is approximately 6802:1!

What are the odds of rolling 4 blanks....twice! :) Just ribbing ya.

I've never been suspect of anyone's dice but at the imdaar tourney the last round I played the guy would roll 3 defense dice and got 3 evades 3 times in a row and another guy was watching our game and said to me "ya he does that" so apparently it happened in his game too. Could be just luck but then again maybe not. I don't know but it was the first time I suspected something. Anyone know the probability of rolling 3 dice and showing 3 evades 3 times in a row? Just curious is all.

The odds of successfully rolling nine evades on nine rolls is approximately 6802:1!

Never tell me the odds!

Sorry couldnt resist ^_^ ;;

I've never been suspect of anyone's dice but at the imdaar tourney the last round I played the guy would roll 3 defense dice and got 3 evades 3 times in a row and another guy was watching our game and said to me "ya he does that" so apparently it happened in his game too. Could be just luck but then again maybe not. I don't know but it was the first time I suspected something. Anyone know the probability of rolling 3 dice and showing 3 evades 3 times in a row? Just curious is all.

The odds of successfully rolling nine evades on nine rolls is approximately 6802:1!

What are the odds of rolling 4 blanks....twice! :) Just ribbing ya.

Without focus. .00000029

One of the thing you guys are forgetting is you have to test each die individually. Using multiple die in a roll will take away the issue the OP is trying to find out.

@Oso, would you be able to do the same test with 6 different die, 1 at a time? This would give you an idea if one die was negating 1 other or 2 other in the evaluation.

Sure I'll get started, I'll roll each 300 times as a sample. I can even include the translucent dice in my testing as I own a pair.

I've never been suspect of anyone's dice but at the imdaar tourney the last round I played the guy would roll 3 defense dice and got 3 evades 3 times in a row and another guy was watching our game and said to me "ya he does that" so apparently it happened in his game too. Could be just luck but then again maybe not. I don't know but it was the first time I suspected something. Anyone know the probability of rolling 3 dice and showing 3 evades 3 times in a row? Just curious is all.

The odds of successfully rolling nine evades on nine rolls is approximately 6802:1!
What are the odds of rolling 4 blanks....twice! :) Just ribbing ya.
With focus. .00000017 or

Without focus. .00000029

They were not consecutive rolls, but that was nevertheless a very unhappy Phantom.

Edit: you were talking about the evades, not the blanks, weren't you? My math looks different than yours.

Edited by Sideslip

I've never been suspect of anyone's dice but at the imdaar tourney the last round I played the guy would roll 3 defense dice and got 3 evades 3 times in a row and another guy was watching our game and said to me "ya he does that" so apparently it happened in his game too. Could be just luck but then again maybe not. I don't know but it was the first time I suspected something. Anyone know the probability of rolling 3 dice and showing 3 evades 3 times in a row? Just curious is all.

The odds of successfully rolling nine evades on nine rolls is approximately 6802:1!
What are the odds of rolling 4 blanks....twice! :) Just ribbing ya.
With focus. .00000017 or

Without focus. .00000029

They were not consecutive rolls, but that was nevertheless a very unhappy Phantom.

Edit: you were talking about the evades, not the blanks, weren't you? My math looks different than yours.

5/8 to the eigth for without. How did you do your math?

Edited by Aminar

There's only one answer .. put the dice away ..

ROCK .. SCISSORS .. PAPER!!!!

But as a rock player we might find paper to be overpowered.

So the first die I rolled 300 times I got these results

Evade - 123 = 41%

Focus - 61 = 20.33%

Blank - 116 = 38.66%

the second die I tried was a translucent die

Evade - 100 = 33.33%

Focus - 79 = 26.33

Blank - 121 = 40.33%

I went back to an original die for the last one

Evade - 101 = 33.66%

Focus - 94 = 31.33%

Blank - 105 = 35%

Lastly I'll add the 3 dice combined and see where we are at near a thousand rolls

Evade - 324 = 36%

Focus - 234 = 26%

Blank - 342 = 38%

Interesting! The more I roll the dice the closer I come to the % each symbol covers on the face of the dice. :rolleyes:

Evade 37.5%

Blank 37.5%

Focus 25%

These were the results we should expect to see as 3/8 of the die are Blank, 3/8 of the die are Evade and 2/8 are Focus. we ended with 1% of each of these after 900 rolls. Something tells me if I rolled 900 more we would be with in 1/2 % of the expected result. I did notice Streaks of Evades and Blanks as I rolled the dice and if you took a smaller sample during one of these streaks it would lead you to believe the dice are unbalanced. There was even a period where I rolled 3 evade vs 18 blanks.

Here is my question for the OP. If i flip a quarter 9 times and it comes up heads each time, what are the odds it will come up heads again if i flip it one more time?

There's only one answer .. put the dice away ..

ROCK .. SCISSORS .. PAPER!!!!

But as a rock player we might find paper to be overpowered.

Nope can't make it balanced. Sorry.

I've never been suspect of anyone's dice but at the imdaar tourney the last round I played the guy would roll 3 defense dice and got 3 evades 3 times in a row and another guy was watching our game and said to me "ya he does that" so apparently it happened in his game too. Could be just luck but then again maybe not. I don't know but it was the first time I suspected something. Anyone know the probability of rolling 3 dice and showing 3 evades 3 times in a row? Just curious is all.

The odds of successfully rolling nine evades on nine rolls is approximately 6802:1!
What are the odds of rolling 4 blanks....twice! :) Just ribbing ya.
With focus. .00000017 or

Without focus. .00000029

They were not consecutive rolls, but that was nevertheless a very unhappy Phantom.

Edit: you were talking about the evades, not the blanks, weren't you? My math looks different than yours.

3/8 to the eigth for with focus.

5/8 to the eigth for without. How did you do your math?

I think you did 3/(8^8) instead of (3/8)^8. Also, for nine rolls the exponent should be 9.

I've never been suspect of anyone's dice but at the imdaar tourney the last round I played the guy would roll 3 defense dice and got 3 evades 3 times in a row and another guy was watching our game and said to me "ya he does that" so apparently it happened in his game too. Could be just luck but then again maybe not. I don't know but it was the first time I suspected something. Anyone know the probability of rolling 3 dice and showing 3 evades 3 times in a row? Just curious is all.

The odds of successfully rolling nine evades on nine rolls is approximately 6802:1!
What are the odds of rolling 4 blanks....twice! :) Just ribbing ya.
With focus. .00000017 or

Without focus. .00000029

They were not consecutive rolls, but that was nevertheless a very unhappy Phantom.

Edit: you were talking about the evades, not the blanks, weren't you? My math looks different than yours.

3/8 to the eigth for with focus.

5/8 to the eigth for without. How did you do your math?

I think you did 3/(8^8) instead of (3/8)^8. Also, for nine rolls the exponent should be 9.

I was doing 8 blanks in a row.

Without focus it's a disturbingly high chance. Around 2.3%

With focus its .00039. So about .04% Always focus. Always. :P

I was doing 8 blanks in a row.

Without focus it's a disturbingly high chance. Around 2.3%

With focus its .00039. So about .04% Always focus. Always. :P

For context, my cloaked Recon Specialist Whisper with two or three focus tokens rolled a perfect streak of blanks. In the previous game, Echo did the same thing (though without the benefit of a pile of worthless tokens). Twice in one evening, but not on consecutive attacks.

Edited by Sideslip

I was doing 8 blanks in a row.

Without focus it's a disturbingly high chance. Around 2.3%

With focus its .00039. So about .04% Always focus. Always. :P

For context, my cloaked Recon Specialist Whisper with two or three focus tokens rolled a perfect streak of blanks. In the previous game, Echo did the same thing (though without the benefit of a pile of worthless tokens). Twice in one evening, but not on consecutive attacks.

You can bring all the math you want to the table but never underestimate the ability to completely frak a roll up.

Here is my question for the OP. If i flip a quarter 9 times and it comes up heads each time, what are the odds it will come up heads again if i flip it one more time?

LOL

I was doing 8 blanks in a row.

Without focus it's a disturbingly high chance. Around 2.3%

With focus its .00039. So about .04% Always focus. Always. :P

For context, my cloaked Recon Specialist Whisper with two or three focus tokens rolled a perfect streak of blanks. In the previous game, Echo did the same thing (though without the benefit of a pile of worthless tokens). Twice in one evening, but not on consecutive attacks.
Green dice ar fickle. Rely on them as little as possible. If you have a choice between having a shot or not getting shot, choose not getting shot. Every time. At least with ships as fragile as Phantoms and Squints. That said, 4 blanks with focus is less likely than 8 without. That's something to think on.

That was my advice to myself during the Imdaar event. Too bad I totally forgot during my last match..

I've never been suspect of anyone's dice but at the imdaar tourney the last round I played the guy would roll 3 defense dice and got 3 evades 3 times in a row and another guy was watching our game and said to me "ya he does that" so apparently it happened in his game too. Could be just luck but then again maybe not. I don't know but it was the first time I suspected something. Anyone know the probability of rolling 3 dice and showing 3 evades 3 times in a row? Just curious is all.

I wouldn't read too much into the "ya he does that." It could just be a player who has recently taken some bad beats empathizing with you to both make you and himself feel better. Hell, I say stuff like that all the time when I can see someone is embarrassed about doing something stupid... I just lie and say that it happens to me all the time just to make them more relaxed.

I was doing 8 blanks in a row.

Without focus it's a disturbingly high chance. Around 2.3%

With focus its .00039. So about .04% Always focus. Always. :P

For context, my cloaked Recon Specialist Whisper with two or three focus tokens rolled a perfect streak of blanks. In the previous game, Echo did the same thing (though without the benefit of a pile of worthless tokens). Twice in one evening, but not on consecutive attacks.
Green dice ar fickle. Rely on them as little as possible. If you have a choice between having a shot or not getting shot, choose not getting shot. Every time. At least with ships as fragile as Phantoms and Squints. That said, 4 blanks with focus is less likely than 8 without. That's something to think on.

I agree, but I was playing against Chewie, Roark, and a Rebel Operative.

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

(Sorry. I'm not a math person, at all...but this thread is actually kind of fascinating and I felt the need to contribute in some way.)

I was doing 8 blanks in a row.

Without focus it's a disturbingly high chance. Around 2.3%

With focus its .00039. So about .04% Always focus. Always. :P

For context, my cloaked Recon Specialist Whisper with two or three focus tokens rolled a perfect streak of blanks. In the previous game, Echo did the same thing (though without the benefit of a pile of worthless tokens). Twice in one evening, but not on consecutive attacks.

<gasp!> you must have inadvertently been sold some dice that were meant for the OP! Send them back to FFG so they can sell them to their rightful owner!

;)

Here is my question for the OP. If i flip a quarter 9 times and it comes up heads each time, what are the odds it will come up heads again if i flip it one more time?

Tricksy Hobbitses!

Sorry, wrong forum...

OP I think that several people have posted results that show there dice are converging to the expected value (the law of large numbers) I am sure for smaller sample sizes we could calculate confidence intervals and would see that the dice are not biased. Could you have a biased die? Sure, but your sample of " I have rolled these dice enough times " lacks some credibility. Roll each of your die 1000 times and post your results, some of the stat guys on here would be happy to tell you if your dice are biased based on the results.

This one time I threw some dice and a gas pipeline exploded on the other side of the planet. Clearly my dice are rigged and OP.