This thread is funny.

But, because I'm also a probability nerd, and sometimes trolls really do need to be fed, let's think about this.

FFGs dice being 'bad' is only an issue if the ones that the individual player are 'worse' than those of the other players. After all, the game is zero-sum. So, this implies one of two things:

1. The OP wants to have better dice than his opponents who use regular 'bad' dice, in which case he wants an unfair advantage.

2. The OP's dice - and all the others he's bought - are worse than those his opponents use. If that's the case - and it's clear that it's not bad 'luck', because if luck were a factor we wouldn't be having this conversation - then there's something structural about how the OP got his dice. FFG must have singled him out to unload their worst-of-the-worst dice on. It'd be a logistical challenge for them, to be sure, but it's probably worth it - because they would get such a kick out of annoying this OP.

I just conducted a test of a green dice. I rolled said dice 100 times using a dice tower for better random results. the defense dice should come close to this result.

Evade 37.5%

Blank 37.5%

Focus 25%

after one hundred rolls I got this

Evade 41%

Blank 41%

Focus 18%

I will now roll one hundred more times see those results separate and then add them together.

Evade 47%

Blank 30%

focus 23%

the combined results are

Evade 44%

Blank 35.5%

Focus 20.5%

now the last time, one hundred more rolls and adding all three together.

Evade 35%

Blank 45%

Focus 20%

so finally after 300 rolls of the same dice here is what I found

Evade 41%

Blanks 38.7%

Focus 20.3%

seems to me this dice is closing in on our expected result averages. Now it took almost a half hour to test these results I have 12 of each dice. so 6 hours of mind numbing rolling of dice to test this out. After 300 rolls I should see a bigger difference then what I see if the dice was broken.

I just conducted a test of a green dice. I rolled said dice 100 times using a dice tower for better random results. the defense dice should come close to this result.

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seems to me this dice is closing in on our expected result averages. Now it took almost a half hour to test these results I have 12 of each dice. so 6 hours of mind numbing rolling of dice to test this out. After 300 rolls I should see a bigger difference then what I see if the dice was broken.

You're clearly part of the 'system' that is trying to keep the OP down.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

The results will regress to the mean over a large amount of rolls, but probably not less than a thousand. Someone could probably do a power analysis to find an appropriate sample size.

In fact, FFG dice are probably more resilient to outlier statistics because multiples of each face may counteract differences in variance across the sample.

I have alway laughed, and I am hesitant to bring it up (I won't ever link to it) the so-called chessex dice analysis posted on dakkadakka years ago, just becuase of how laughable and unbelievable the results were. I still see it used as evidence (mainly by warmachine players) as evidence for why they should use casino dice. Neglecting the fact that the biggest cause of variance in dice rolling is more than likely "how" you roll, not " what" you roll (particularly give that casino dice are designed to thrown across 6 feet or more).

(particularly give that casino dice are designed to thrown across 6 feet or more).

And here we have a whole new artillery element to add to a miniatures battle game.

You will always get players that claim that dice are rigged and try to find the 'best' dice. Its a variant of the kind of insanity that causes some people to go through an entire fridge of milk to find that one container with the optimum expiry date or people that try to min-max their eggs.

Science and logic dont work on these cases so you might as well have fun with them.

The community we have here isn't perfect, but overall I believe that we are all civil and willing to help in just about every way. If you require some form of proof, go ahead and search for the thread entitled "Lost my minis" or something to that effect that was started by Millennium Falsehood back at the beginning of May. This group of people is totally and completely willing to throw wads of cash at a member in need. That's saying a lot.

Obviously it isnt I asked for dice alternatives, and instead of being helpful the majority of the 'community' here decided to be pissants and just be internet trolls. I dont care about your opinion about how the dice roll. Ive rolled them enough to want better options. If you dont have any positive feedback you and the rest of your 'civil' community should just keep your mouth shut

Simply... there is no substitute for the FFG dice.. this should have been the first answer... optionally, there is an ap for the dice, but this could only be used if your opponent allows it....

Your attitude could be a little better here.. as mentioned this is a friendly board and many are just stating their own experience. It's human nature, learn to deal with it, as you'll run into it more as you get older...

Coming on to a board like this and getting rude will hurt you in the long run... adjust your attitude for your own good...

Seems pretty simple to me. If you want FFG approved randomization within this game, you are limited to 2 options...

The dice that are sold as part of the game.

The dice app through your preferred store.

If you don't care about "official" play, take some d8's from whatever game you want and assign a # value to a corresponding X-wing symbol.

Beyond that, i don't know what to tell you...

Simply... there is no substitute for the FFG dice.. this should have been the first answer... optionally, there is an ap for the dice, but this could only be used if your opponent allows it....

The FFG Dice App does not require your opponents permission to be used, only that it is visible to both players at all times.

Jim

I want some dice made out of "super ball" material... or oversize ones that are made of tungsten and anodized that light up and make cool star-wars noises!!!

Ooh! Different sound effects depending on what is rolled!

Of course, the OPs broken dice would get monotonous...

I've never been suspect of anyone's dice but at the imdaar tourney the last round I played the guy would roll 3 defense dice and got 3 evades 3 times in a row and another guy was watching our game and said to me "ya he does that" so apparently it happened in his game too. Could be just luck but then again maybe not. I don't know but it was the first time I suspected something. Anyone know the probability of rolling 3 dice and showing 3 evades 3 times in a row? Just curious is all.

I've never been suspect of anyone's dice but at the imdaar tourney the last round I played the guy would roll 3 defense dice and got 3 evades 3 times in a row and another guy was watching our game and said to me "ya he does that" so apparently it happened in his game too. Could be just luck but then again maybe not. I don't know but it was the first time I suspected something. Anyone know the probability of rolling 3 dice and showing 3 evades 3 times in a row? Just curious is all.

All day long. Unless luck runs for a ton of games in a row it isn't likely to be cheating. You can tell a cheater by their attitude most of the time.

Meh i used the ffg app. Saved a lot of money from having to buy "more" than one set of dice.

I've never been suspect of anyone's dice but at the imdaar tourney the last round I played the guy would roll 3 defense dice and got 3 evades 3 times in a row and another guy was watching our game and said to me "ya he does that" so apparently it happened in his game too. Could be just luck but then again maybe not. I don't know but it was the first time I suspected something. Anyone know the probability of rolling 3 dice and showing 3 evades 3 times in a row? Just curious is all.

I had the same luck with my Tie Fighters all through Imdaar Alpha. They couldn't die. They'd get a single crit, and it would be meaningless. Oh no, my academy tie has PS0. Oh no, he lost his pilot abilities and EPT's.

All day long. Unless luck runs for a ton of games in a row it isn't likely to be cheating. You can tell a cheater by their attitude most of the time.

Haha funny thing was the guy was using tie fighters as well. He had a shuttle with navigator, bh with hlc, dark curse with stealth device and another named tie pilot I forget. I had 2 bwings, ORS, and a ywing with ion turret. Took out the shuttle in 2 rounds maybe 3 cuz I assumed I could knock down the ties pretty quick and then focus on the bh. Boy was I wrong haha. After the shuttle went I was able to knock out the stealth device and only get 1 more hit thru. I wasn't rolling bad either. I would roll 3 dice mainly sometimes 4 and at least get 2 hits sometimes 3. The times I rolled 3 hits he rolled 3 evades. It was ridiculous.

I, too have 'dice issues'. My dice are strong with the Dark Side - blanks in abundance. Until my opponent rolls them, then they're strong with the Light Side. Obviously, FFG have Jedi and Sith Lords working for them, or how else could this happen?

I've never been suspect of anyone's dice but at the imdaar tourney the last round I played the guy would roll 3 defense dice and got 3 evades 3 times in a row and another guy was watching our game and said to me "ya he does that" so apparently it happened in his game too. Could be just luck but then again maybe not. I don't know but it was the first time I suspected something. Anyone know the probability of rolling 3 dice and showing 3 evades 3 times in a row? Just curious is all.

I had the same luck with my Tie Fighters all through Imdaar Alpha. They couldn't die. They'd get a single crit, and it would be meaningless. Oh no, my academy tie has PS0. Oh no, he lost his pilot abilities and EPT's.

All day long. Unless luck runs for a ton of games in a row it isn't likely to be cheating. You can tell a cheater by their attitude most of the time.

Haha funny thing was the guy was using tie fighters as well. He had a shuttle with navigator, bh with hlc, dark curse with stealth device and another named tie pilot I forget. I had 2 bwings, ORS, and a ywing with ion turret. Took out the shuttle in 2 rounds maybe 3 cuz I assumed I could knock down the ties pretty quick and then focus on the bh. Boy was I wrong haha. After the shuttle went I was able to knock out the stealth device and only get 1 more hit thru. I wasn't rolling bad either. I would roll 3 dice mainly sometimes 4 and at least get 2 hits sometimes 3. The times I rolled 3 hits he rolled 3 evades. It was ridiculous.

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Follow the link for alternative dice other that the expansion set or core set ones. Have fun!

No other company makes dice for this game......no other dice are allowed in official competative play. If this doesn't suit you....then there really isn't anything we "pissants" can do for you.

I think its all a Jedi mind trick that only affects the weak minded.

If you think your red dice are ending up on hit or crit less often than they should, then that means you can fly through asteroids without worry!

If you think your red dice are ending up on hit or crit less often than they should, then that means you can fly through asteroids without worry!

Ah man, I just got done testing thousands of dice for these broken ones and found them........ I tossed the rest in the trash, I should have saved one for the Astroids!

If you think your red dice are ending up on hit or crit less often than they should, then that means you can fly through asteroids without worry!

or you could just carve a few crits on the blank faces - what are the blank sides for if not for customization.

One of the thing you guys are forgetting is you have to test each die individually. Using multiple die in a roll will take away the issue the OP is trying to find out.

@Oso, would you be able to do the same test with 6 different die, 1 at a time? This would give you an idea if one die was negating 1 other or 2 other in the evaluation.

Played at a tourney last weekend and in one game the first hit I landed after about three turns was when my opponent rolled for damage when passing through an asteroid. I asked if he minded rolling all my hit dice but for some reason he refused!