I bought a set of Team Covenant templates. I think they're fantastic. The range rulers and turn templates are all accurate. Most of the straight templates are accurate as well but a couple of them are off by about half a millimeter.

Here's a picture of one of my starter set straight 5 templates on the left and my acrylic TC straight 5 on the right: https://i.imgur.com/YCk9gK3.jpg

That difference is roughly half a millimeter.

Do the official cardboard templates have similar variances? How important would you consider this difference in gameplay?

Considering all the times I've won or lost games by a millimeter, I'd say it makes all the difference in the world.

The acrylics are generally more precise than the cardboard, or so I've heard. The official cardboard templates can have quite a bit of variation in them. I'm not sure how much it would affect the game, but if you're worried I'd suggest to have both players use the same templates.

I've decided I'm not going to sweat it. I just measured two official straight 3s against each other and they had a difference of 2/5ths of a millimeter between them.

I've compared my 3 starter set card templates and there's up to about 1mm difference between the 3 banks lengths from different runs

Just Fly Casual

It's important. But as long as you aren't switching between templates, I don't see the issue.

I forget exactly at what point they talk about it, but I'm pretty sure it's in here:

There's a chance the cardboard may be off, since...well, it's cardboard and is susceptible to wear & tear

There's a chance the cardboard may be off, since...well, it's cardboard and is susceptible to wear & tear

and humidity as well i think it would be very entertaining to see just how far "off" a template can be made through environmental conditions, not to play with mind you(because intentionally doing stuff to your template would be cheating)just to show the extremes of how susceptible the things are. (it probably would be a good advertisement pic for those people trying to sell the 15-30$ acrylic sets who could use "consistency" as a selling point, hint hint)

Team covenant recently sent out (May?) new template turns and banks to people who had previously purchased them. The reason is that they were off. Now, I think they've probably got it better the second time around and it could be the cardboard in this case, but I'd try and check it with multiple sets. When I got my reprints from TC, they were dead on. Make sure you got their newer version (meaning those sent out/produced after April).

Find some one with the official ffg acrylics to compare them to. If its off then worry

Cardboard has to much variance.

If you are worrying about fractions of millimeters, are you really still playing a game?

Considering that I lost my final round of Assault on Imdaar Alpha by overlapping an asteroid by a millimeter, I would say it matters.

I'm pretty sure the tournament rules state that if there is any concern, both players should use the same templates throughout the game.

There's a chance the cardboard may be off, since...well, it's cardboard and is susceptible to wear & tear

and humidity as well i think it would be very entertaining to see just how far "off" a template can be made through environmental conditions, not to play with mind you(because intentionally doing stuff to your template would be cheating)just to show the extremes of how susceptible the things are. (it probably would be a good advertisement pic for those people trying to sell the 15-30$ acrylic sets who could use "consistency" as a selling point, hint hint)

When I first brought my acrylic templates (from Applied Perspective), the TO almost refused to let me use them on account of them differing from his (which he's had since the game came out). When compared with mine, which were brand new because I had JUST bought my second core set, they were spot on. Perfect matchups. The TOs templates had degraded by whole millimeters.

As long as both players allow the others' templates, I see no problem. If there's an issue, simply share the same set of templates. An advantage to all is advantage to none.

There's a chance the cardboard may be off, since...well, it's cardboard and is susceptible to wear & tear

and humidity as well i think it would be very entertaining to see just how far "off" a template can be made through environmental conditions, not to play with mind you(because intentionally doing stuff to your template would be cheating)just to show the extremes of how susceptible the things are. (it probably would be a good advertisement pic for those people trying to sell the 15-30$ acrylic sets who could use "consistency" as a selling point, hint hint)

Whoa whoa whoa. Neither the rulebook nor tournament rules EVER say I can't steam my templates before an event. If I don't use my 5 straight as a mic in the shower what, pray tell, SHOULD I use?!

Anyone who argues about a half mm needs to sell off thier stuff on ebay. In a tournie if its that close id just get the TO and have them make a ruling and live with it. If you loose by a millimeter the other guy flew better or you should have.

Old Adept, just how old are you? You're like a grandpa who's always pissy about something, as if someone put too much milk in your muesli.

If you loose by a millimeter the other guy flew better or you should have.

That's a bit harsh I think... I'd have a hard time keeping a straight face while coaching someone on how to properly eyeball a millimeter, much less boil it down to "you didn't fly well enough."

If you loose by a millimeter the other guy flew better or you should have.

That's a bit harsh I think... I'd have a hard time keeping a straight face while coaching someone on how to properly eyeball a millimeter, much less boil it down to "you didn't fly well enough."

I believe he means that games should never come so close 1mm is the deciding factor, if it is you screwed up somewhere that the 1mm would'nt haveended up making that difference

One thing to remember is thst the humidity of your location will affect the cardboard, but not the acrylic. I work in mailing, which is basically just moving paper, and the variance from day to day in weight is ridiculous. There will be some expansion and contraction and even warping as the air gets more humid.

If you loose by a millimeter the other guy flew better or you should have.

That's a bit harsh I think... I'd have a hard time keeping a straight face while coaching someone on how to properly eyeball a millimeter, much less boil it down to "you didn't fly well enough."

I believe he means that games should never come so close 1mm is the deciding factor, if it is you screwed up somewhere that the 1mm would'nt haveended up making that difference

In a game with dice, you can make all the right moves and still lose.

I lost my game by using advanced sensors with my B-Wing. I wanted to barrell roll and then bank to avoid an asteroid. My barrell roll was going to put me on an asteroid unless I scooted up further than I wanted. So I completed the barrell roll and did my bank. My bank put me on another asteroid by about a millimeter. This B-Wing had 1 hull point left. I rolled a hit. Destroyed. This was the last round of play. I lost the game 50-49.

Sure, I could have flown better throughout the game, but aside from that mistake, I was outplaying the other guy by a fair margin. Dice rolled against me.

Old Adept, just how old are you? You're like a grandpa who's always pissy about something, as if someone put too much milk in your muesli.

Oh and your like a sanctimonious know-it-all who thinks they invented the game. But I digress.

Fly casual.

Easy to say, but for some IMPOSSIBLE to do.

Old Adept, just how old are you? You're like a grandpa who's always pissy about something, as if someone put too much milk in your muesli.

Everyone always talking about fly casual. If you are playing and want to argue about a half mm then you need a new hobby. If you get screwed in a tournie by a mm thats the breaks. The other guy either took a gamble and pulled off a good maneuver or maybe you took a gamble and misjudged one. So yes, the other guy may have flown better or you dindnt fly as well. Some people get wayyyy to competitive over games. Id never argue a mm or less. If it makes some people happy to win on a questionable call, fine. It evens out in the end. Im a gracious winner and looser. Sometimes you screw it up, make boneheaded moves, get out flown, critical dice failure/success, whatever. Its just a game.

Oh and your like a sanctimonious know-it-all who thinks they invented the game. But I digress.

Fly casual.

Easy to say, but for some IMPOSSIBLE to do.

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Too bad some people can't apply the whole Fly Casual thing to forum posting. Maybe you need a little more roughage in your diet, eh gramps?

YOU are the one starting the flame not me. Compare yourself to a feminine liquid hygiene holder why dont you?