Oh joy.

The card in itself I have no problems with.

It's the symbol spread that scares me.

Death/Order = Victor, anyone? - Good/Order = Hilde anyone?

It is a VERY good base for multisymbol spike builds too...

I thought Spike was irrelevant now?

Good Elena+Siggy's support=Very easy to accomplish fufillment of her third effect.

And there are a LOT of great attacks that share good and fire, namely Mark of the Beast among others. Hilde's 6/2 8dmg attack, anyone?

HolyDragonCloud said:

I prefer Lightning Horn, but yeah that one is golden due to it's damage or it's effect.

I was actually thinking of Lightning Horn, too, but I figured to mention the higher damaging one since at a 6/2 if you give Elena the third symbol needed to hit her third effect, combined with her two free damage pumps, you check a 6 and pay 2 momentum to generate 20 damage.

And one thing I forgot to mention, on the comment about the Death symbol.

1- No, it isn't better than Evil's foundation base. Evil can still get it's pieces out a lot earlier and a lot more often, and can fetch them back with Gorgeous Team (which should really be ran in more than just female-only decks, imo). It can definitely compete with it, though. I just don't think Death can call itself better than Evil's base, but I would put them very close in power, with the edge going to Evil. Death still somewhat suffers from being a bit heavy in the 4 check field on it's good cards (Saikyo, Beautiful Nightmare, No Memories, Alluring Beauty, Cursed Blood, maybe Manifest if you have use for it), which will always hurt it. And in a typical Death deck, I can defintely see a need to run at Saikyo, No Memories, Cursed Blood, and Alluring Beauty if your handsize is pretty large. That'll be about 16 4 checks to start, on top of whatever else you choose to go with for sub 5 checks. On the bright side, With Inhuman, Revenant's, Maybe Free Will, Maybe Lesser of Many Evils, Oral Dead, Maybe Spiritual Center, Tira's Contract if you're worried about your defense/vitality. Unothrodox training for the discard. It seems as if a 7 hand sizer is perfect for Death, which leads me to point number 2.

2- Death Blanka. Menuett Dance all of a sudden becomes golden off of Death, and all of a sudden Death gets an even more-reliable kill condition. Back it up with Mega Spike to chip some more damage off, Midnight Launcher for the obvious awesome, and something else (All these attacks are high zone, but you could substitute Mega Spike for Crushing Embrace of the Jotun for the mid-zone attack necessary to get 3 copies of Knight Breakers in). Blanka is like...seriously...amazing. A Form which the only requirement is to end your turn after getting three momentum for free. he's got a good size hand size to fuel Inhuman and with Cursed Blood he is certainly sped up.

My main problem with Death is that it doesn't have a single useful 6 check not on infinity.

You know what I think death's main strength is though? It's splashes. Evil, Fire, Air, Earth, All, Chaos, and Order all chain amazingly with Death and are very powerful symbols. It's very easy to dual-symbol for something that will get you the foundation base you need to push through Death's AMAZING attacks.

ShadowDragon said:

You got an Astrid deck list to share with us?

I'm running that Sohpitia weapon attack that if it deals damage you draw cards, and also that terrible Kyoshiro 2 check stun 2 attack (or gain two momentum or draw two). I thought those two were funny. What am I missing? (perhaps this would be a better topic for a different thread.. dur).

But yeah. The COST of cursed blood is NOT knowing what its going to do. yeah, both effects are great and all, but not being able to control (really) which one its going to do IS the cost. Kinda... and being contingent on foundations being played... honestly I know some decks don't even throw foundations after turn 2... or one sometimes... granted sure these aren't uber tier, but I'm just saying...

Sure, the build I used at the Path of the Master is here: http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp?efid=27&efcid=5&efidt=113153 I've made a couple tweaks since then but overall it's still the same.

As for Cursed Blood, if i'm not mistaken the vast majority of control decks are foundations >_> So the chances of them sniping one of your foundations is kinda low. Either way, I don't think the card is game breaking, just a nice little boost to the symbols it has.

You guys do realize that nothing official has been said about curse blood correct? You are taking the word of 1 player, and that player or his sources may be wrong.

Shajir, I think it was mentioned in the thread that it was discovered when someone played a game vs. Hata, and he played the card, then confirmed it will be reprinted.

HolyDragonCloud said:

I saw a Haata.

I thought it was a striking coincidence. I mean, SURELY nobody would be so bold as to typo James Hata's name.

You'd be surprised how many times his name gets misspelled >_> (example: "Hatta" on that banner when he went someplace to visit... I think someone someplace has pictures).

ShadowDragon said:

SURELY I wasn't being facetious nor any sort of joking with my comment. ;p

sir_shajir said:

I've seen Cursed blood with teh 4 point shuriken in foily thankyou.

Also, Shinji, funny thing is I'm not surprised if I do have swine flu. UGH.

I'm surprised to see Cursed Blood back, I always thought it was over the top, specially in an order deck... It's 1-diff so you can spam 2 on first turn if you get them, and basically give you an extra foundation each turn, or are a 1 for 1 trade for an opponent's foundation that most likely has higher difficulty and/or is crucial for the opponent's gameplan, or for the control battle.

It's nice for Death and Good to have it back, but Order didn't need any extra-advantage. Oh well, we'll see how it works.

Rock Howard, Seong Mi-Na and Sogetsu will most probably get the most gain from this off Order, they'd all very much like that extra speedy set-up, I'm sure.

Hugo and pretty much any Death or Good deck likes this too

Viewtiful_Joe said:

Anything doing the multi-symbol jig will want it for obvious reasons. Also, anybody who can tutor cards *=D* will want it for recursion. It's certainly not the greatest card late-game, but really, even late-game people may still be building, especially if your name is Death *Nightmare* lol.

ShadowDragon said:

Are you talking about the James Hata day when he game down too FL for Grad bash when he graduated ?

MarcoPulleaux said:

when is it legal for play?

c pyrotecnic a said:

When stores get the watermarked versions in league support.

unless of course, your area is like Calgary and never gets league support, since Lion Rampart refuses to send league support.

kiit said:

osnap

kiit said:

I thought since it had already been seen in shiny form that it would be legal NOW!!!!

<Already has a deck built for FLA regional that REALLY likes that card

the coming of the card about like NOW proves one thing: The can nats curse.