Possible Fun Card Options

By mlbrogueone, in X-Wing

I apologize if there has already been a thread similar to this one, but I didn't see one when I did a search.

So we've seen plenty of speculation about possible new ships, big and small. What about possible cards?

I have a few ideas I thought could be fun:

Weapons Link (Modification) - [Action] Add one additional die to Cannon or turret weapon attack. Weapon can only fire in the front arc until unlinked. Existing range and damage limits still apply. Ship can not make a primary weapon attack again unless it takes an action to unlink the primary and secondary weapons. 3 pts.

(The thought process here is that in the X-wing & TIE Fighter games you could link your ion weaopns/turrets to your primary weapon's front fire arc to do more damage than just using one weapon alone. But you do have to deal with the "hassle" of linking and unlinking as an action so it discourages abuse. I'm a little unsure on how the mechanics of this would work, but I think the concept is a good one. If anybody else has an idea of a better ruling I'd be eager to hear it.)

BTL-S3 (Title) - [Y-wing Only] - Add a crew slot. 1 pt.

(Since there was a version of the Y-wing that had two seats, one for pilot and one for gunner, I think it is reasonable that a Y-wing could take on a crew slot.)

I think those two could be part of an Aces style pack that included and HWK & Y-wing. Perhaps add other cards that give those ships just a little bit more love.

The Chosen One (Title) - [Luke Skywalker or Darth Vader only] - May fire a secondary weapon without using a target lock. 2 Pts.

(Since Luke didn't need a targeting computer to blow up the Death Star. This is sort of like a dead eye ability that doesn't take up the epic pilot slot. Might make ordinance just a little more viable for X-wing pilots by allowing them to TL and Focus with Skywalker. Plus if it can be used by Imps or Rebels it might not throw the game too much out of balance)

Ship Mount Tractor Beam (Cannon) - Reduce your agility by 1 die to reduce the agility of a ship in your fire arc by 1 die to a minimum of 0. 3 pts.

(Trying to simulate the tractor beam add on from the old TIE Fighter games).

Any other ideas on possible cards?

Edited by mlbrogueone

Ship Mount Tractor Beam (Cannon) - Reduce your agility by 1 die to reduce the agility of a ship in your fire arc by 1 die to a minimum of 0. -3 pts.

(Trying to simulate the tractor beam add on from the old TIE Fighter games).

Any other ideas on possible cards?

Oooh... 19 point B wings! I'll take 5!

Ship Mount Tractor Beam (Cannon) - Reduce your agility by 1 die to reduce the agility of a ship in your fire arc by 1 die to a minimum of 0. -3 pts.

(Trying to simulate the tractor beam add on from the old TIE Fighter games).

Any other ideas on possible cards?

Oooh... 19 point B wings! I'll take 5!

Ooops, that should be +3 points. ;)

I remember linking from XWA...neat concept idea, but it seems it miiiight be OP. Then again, the only turret platforms are Y-wings and HWKs, and those are by no means OP. I almost never shoot straight with a Y-wing, so this would definitely require a change.

So basically, it'd be like attacking with both weapons in a round; say, primary attack at range 2, then and ion attack immediately afterwards. Or maybe you'd have to do them at the same time, so they can choose when to focus/target lock...I don't know.

Then, there's one problem: range. Do you limit the attacks to the range of the closer weapon? Do they both shoot up to range 3, maybe with diminished effectiveness (minus a die)? If, at range 3, would you only get one attack?

How about this idea for a fire-linked concept?

You can remove one shield to add one extra hit to your attack roll, you cannot use this ability if you have no shields remaining.

It would kind of be a different version of vader, not quite as effective as him, but also not as damaging to yourself either.

The Chosen One (Title) - [Luke Skywalker or Darth Vader only] - May fire a secondary weapon without using a target lock. 2 Pts.

They have this already. It's called "Deadeye". And it even shows luke during his trench run.

Ship Mount Tractor Beam (Cannon) - Reduce your agility by 1 die to reduce the agility of a ship in your fire arc by 1 die to a minimum of 0. 3 pts.

Yeah this makes perfect sense because of the way you had to fly straight with them to keep them under the beam's influence. Combine this with Outmaneuver and you've got yerself a party.

Linked Ion Cannon (cannon upgrade)

When attacking with your primary weapon, you may convert one uncancelled (crit) result to a (hit) result and apply one ion token to the defender.

How about a gunner crew for a Y-wing that allows it to fire the turret and it's main gun at the same time.

As for the tractor beam, I kind of think they've made that already in Outmaneuver. You reduce the targets agility, I don't know how else mechanically you'd portray the ability as it was from the old PC game.

Use the Force

( EPT, Luke or Vader only )

When you spend a Focus token on an attack, you may add one <hit> result.

Not sure if this should be an EPT or something else. Just an idea I had about including the Force somehow. Plus it would possibly help with Vader's crummy attack value.

Use the Force

( EPT, Luke or Vader only )

When you spend a Focus token on an attack, you may add one <hit> result.

Not sure if this should be an EPT or something else. Just an idea I had about including the Force somehow. Plus it would possibly help with Vader's crummy attack value.

Feels almost OP on Luke. 4 dice at range 1 with a focus and a guaranteed free hit? Hmmmmmm.

Use the Force

( EPT, Luke or Vader only )

When you spend a Focus token on an attack, you may add one <hit> result.

Not sure if this should be an EPT or something else. Just an idea I had about including the Force somehow. Plus it would possibly help with Vader's crummy attack value.

Feels almost OP on Luke. 4 dice at range 1 with a focus and a guaranteed free hit? Hmmmmmm.

Yeah, but if you have it for Vader only, it's not likely to get used much. Just an idea.

Use the Force

( EPT, Luke or Vader only )

When you spend a Focus token on an attack, you may add one <hit> result.

Not sure if this should be an EPT or something else. Just an idea I had about including the Force somehow. Plus it would possibly help with Vader's crummy attack value.

Feels almost OP on Luke. 4 dice at range 1 with a focus and a guaranteed free hit? Hmmmmmm.

How about, "Once per round,you may spend a focus to add 1 hit result to your attack roll or 1 evade to your defense roll, (you may not do both in the same round)" 4-5pts, I would open it up to all force users though, so adding Corran/Kyle, and I think maybe Maarek? ( I keep forgetting if Maarek Steele is Vader's apprentice or the guy who's name is G---- Maarek, I read the books more than I played the video games)

There are a fair amount of force users (and as a side note I'm surprised Mara Jade's Z-95 wasnt a card in the expansion) it would be fun to add a force sensitivity aspect to the game.

There are a fair amount of force users (and as a side note I'm surprised Mara Jade's Z-95 wasnt a card in the expansion) it would be fun to add a force sensitivity aspect to the game.

Yes! someone else who thought Mara should be in the game, she is the only named character in the book series to have flown a Z-95 (besides Rogue Squadron on the Coruscant mission, I apologize for butchering the spelling) and Cracken seems like he would have been a better Crew card than a Pilot(if you follow the EU bios why would the head of Alliance intelligence be flying in dogfights?), or heck, his son Pash Should have been a pilot before Airen

Yeah, Airen Cracken was an odd choice. Maybe they are saving Mara for Rebel Aces 2 for name recognition.

NEVER TELL ME THE ODDS

You ignore the effects of Asteroids. Asteroids cannot damage your ship, block line of fire or negate your actions. (5pts)

I'm guessing due to the Expanded Universe stuff, they can't use Mara Jade's name at this time. Maybe she's no longer in.... or maybe they want to save her as a spoiler for the end of episode 7. If we start seeing her pop up everywhere we'll know she's still in.

Oh, and to the OP, here's my take on one:

Weapons Link (Modification) Action: Reduce your primary weapon value by 2 (Minimum zero). The next time you would fire a secondary weapon this round, you may roll one additional attack die.

I'm guessing due to the Expanded Universe stuff, they can't use Mara Jade's name at this time. Maybe she's no longer in.... or maybe they want to save her as a spoiler for the end of episode 7. If we start seeing her pop up everywhere we'll know she's still in.

But Airen Cracken wasn't exclusively in the EU? I am sure they have a reason, I just hope she shows up in a Z-95 or as a Imperial crew (she was an Emperor's Hand After all)

More likely they have her in mind for something else - if they do a skipray, for example, or as a crew card for an imperial large ship.

But as we've seen with luke, Han, and Vader, you can have a crew card and a pilot as long as they don't play together. Hopefully they're saving her for a ship. Hopefully this doesn't mean she's one of the non-cannon leaving forever except on a few well-read, well-worn pages.

( I keep forgetting if Maarek Steele is Vader's apprentice or the guy who's name is G---- Maarek, I read the books more than I played the video games)

Maarek Steele and Keyan Farlander are the ace pilots who serve as player characters and protagonists of the old X-wing and TIE fighter simulator games, respectively.