Good eve all,

I'd like to present the following three races for your critique. Two of them are revamps of those appearing in the Unofficial Species Menagerie 3.0. I feel these two "updates" are more focused on the description of the species rather than the stats presented in Saga Edition or Revised d20.

Arcona

2 Brawn

2 Agility

2 Intellect

2 Cunning

2 Willpower

2 Presence

Wounds Threshold: 12 + Brawn

Strain Threshold: 10 + Willpower

Starting Experience: 100 XP

Special Abilities: Arcona begin the game with one rank in Resilience. They still may not train Resilience above rank 2 during character creation.

Besalisk

3 Brawn

1 Agility

2 Intellect

2 Cunning

2 Willpower

2 Presence

Wounds Threshold: 12 + Brawn

Strain Threshold: 10 + Willpower

Starting Experience: 90 XP

Special Abilities: Besalisks begin the game with one rank in Resilience. They still may not train Resilience above rank 2 during character creation. Besalisks may remove one setback die imposed due to arctic or cold environmental conditions.

Extra Limbs: Besalisks may wield two weapons normally requiring the use of two hands simultaneously. This includes two-handed weapons such as force pikes and weapons requiring the ranged (heavy) skill. Wielding two-handed weapons in this manner imposes one setback die. Follow the rules for two weapon combat as normal.

Ishi-Tib

2 Brawn

2 Agility

3 Intellect

2 Cunning

2 Willpower

1 Presence

Wounds Threshold: 10 + Brawn

Strain Threshold: 10 + WIllpower

Starting Experience: 100 XP

Special Abilities: Ishi-Tib begin with 1 rank in Negotiation; they may not train this skill above rank 2 at character creation.

Beak: When an Ishi-Tib makes a Brawl check to deal damage to an opponent, their attack deals +1 damage and has a crit rating of 3.

Amphibious: Ishi-Tib can breathe underwater without penalty and never suffer movement penalties for traveling through water. Additionally, Ishi-Tib must submerge themselves each day in a brine for at least 1 minute or reduce his strain threshold by 2 for the following day. This effect is cumulative

Dresselian

2 Brawn

2 Agility

2 Intellect

3 Cunning

2 Willpower

1 Presence

Wounds Threshold: 10 + Brawn

Strain Threshold: 12 + Willpower

Starting Experience: 100 XP

Special Abilities: Dresselians begin with 1 rank in Survival; they may not train this skill above rank 2 at character creation. They also start with one rank in the Confidence talent.

I question the reduced Agility on the Besalisk. They have four arms; I imagine they'd be even more dexterous. I can't see having four arms as a disadvantage. I keep thinking of General Krell from The Clone Wars. I'd say they have average at the very least.

I question the reduced Agility on the Besalisk. They have four arms; I imagine they'd be even more dexterous. I can't see having four arms as a disadvantage. I keep thinking of General Krell from The Clone Wars. I'd say they have average at the very least.

Well, using Master Krell as an example is probably a bad idea since his agility came from The Force. I base it on multiple sources stating that they have multiple arms but are no more dexterous because of it. Alternatively, they could have a 1 Willpower to reflect their hot headedness and stubborn streaks?

Sorry for the double post, but I added Dresselians to the list as well for your consideration...

Lots of resilience being given. I understand if you are trying to go by the wookiepedia entry, but a bit more diversity might be prudent.

Lots of resilience being given. I understand if you are trying to go by the wookiepedia entry, but a bit more diversity might be prudent.

My mistake, Dresselians should be Survival not Resilience. This is what copy+paste from a phone does...

I question the reduced Agility on the Besalisk. They have four arms; I imagine they'd be even more dexterous. I can't see having four arms as a disadvantage. I keep thinking of General Krell from The Clone Wars. I'd say they have average at the very least.

Well, using Master Krell as an example is probably a bad idea since his agility came from The Force. I base it on multiple sources stating that they have multiple arms but are no more dexterous because of it. Alternatively, they could have a 1 Willpower to reflect their hot headedness and stubborn streaks?

It should be noted that Master Krell, and his performance in TCW is considered a canon character while many of the sources that talks about Besalisks are likely not.

Take that for what you will, but I felt compelled to mention it.

I question the reduced Agility on the Besalisk. They have four arms; I imagine they'd be even more dexterous. I can't see having four arms as a disadvantage. I keep thinking of General Krell from The Clone Wars. I'd say they have average at the very least.

Well, using Master Krell as an example is probably a bad idea since his agility came from The Force. I base it on multiple sources stating that they have multiple arms but are no more dexterous because of it. Alternatively, they could have a 1 Willpower to reflect their hot headedness and stubborn streaks?

It should be noted that Master Krell, and his performance in TCW is considered a canon character while many of the sources that talks about Besalisks are likely not.

Take that for what you will, but I felt compelled to mention it.

I'd like to get everyone's feedback on the Arcona. Part of me feels that they're slightly underpowered especially when compared to, say, a Human who gets the equivalent of 120 starting XP.

Arcona seems pretty fair to me, especially considering the 12+ Wound Threshold. I'm not familiar with the source material so I cannot say if it is an accurate representation.

Humans get 110 starting XP methinks, unless you count Obligation/Duty.

Arcona seems pretty fair to me, especially considering the 12+ Wound Threshold. I'm not familiar with the source material so I cannot say if it is an accurate representation.

Humans get 110 starting XP methinks, unless you count Obligation/Duty.