Han/C3P0 Bro Hug Combo

By cleardave, in X-Wing

So with the Tantive IV out, I've been thinking of this list;

Han (46)

->Marksmanship (3)

->C3P0 (3)

->Gunner (5)

Total: 57pts

Rookie Pilot (21)

Rookie Pilot (21)

The whole thing totals to 99pts, and I guess you could drop an R2 on one of the X-Wings if you wanted to fill it in and not worry about initiative.

My thinking with that Han setup is that with your (usually) 1 Agility die you're rolling every turn, you can always guess "zero" with Threepio and guarantee that you mitigate 1 damage every turn the Falcon gets shot at. The only catches here are that at Range 3 you'll have to make a legitimate guess, and versus Wedge you can't use Threepio at all.

This then frees up your action to use on Marksmanship, so you can concentrate on dealing some decent damage every round with Han and the Gunner.

The X-Wings are there to provide support.

So what does everyone think; can Han and The Professor make a good pairing out there? It seems like they fit together well, especially if someone tries to tell you the odds of successfully guessing the number of evades you would roll at Range 3. You know what you get to tell them... <_<

Nice idea certainly. What about spending that 1 point on the Falcon tiile card?

Here is a slightly different take:

Han (46)

Push the Limit (3)

Nien Numb (1)

C3-PO (3)

MF Title (1)

Total 54 pts

Biggs (25)

Rookie (21)

Han sort of has a "reroll to hit" mechanic already, with PtL he can use a focus and evade action each round and Nien Numb can help shed the stress. C3-PO then can guess "1 evade result". Biggs draws enemy fire as usual.

Alternatively drop Nien Numb and demote Biggs to a Rookie and take a Recon Specialist. No you have focus on attack and defense. This helps C3-PO even more as you can choose to spend a focus token in defense to create the "C3-PO probability affect" to your liking!

Edited by DB Draft

You are absolutely correct. C-3P0 is almost as good as a free Evade Token every round.

Note that you can only use him once per round, rather than once per attack, but still. 5/8 of an Evade that works unless you roll the actual evade token is pretty friggen sweet.

Of course, when you're flying Han Friggen Solo, do you really need an offensive action at all? I'd consider trading it for Expert Handling at that point, for the insane mobility.

Edited by DraconPyrothayan

On one hand, it's a good list. It'll be very reliable, although in this meta you won't have a guaranteed win: you'll struggle a bit with swarms, with alpha-striking Bombers, and generally with high-offense lists.

On the other hand, the way I know how it'll perform is that you've re-invented the classic Han Shot First list, with the substitution of Threepio for Chewie. (c: So you also shouldn't expect many opponents to be surprised...

So with the Tantive IV out, I've been thinking of this list;

Han (46)

->Marksmanship (3)

->C3P0 (3)

->Gunner (5)

Total: 57pts

Rookie Pilot (21)

Rookie Pilot (21)

The whole thing totals to 99pts, and I guess you could drop an R2 on one of the X-Wings if you wanted to fill it in and not worry about initiative.

My thinking with that Han setup is that with your (usually) 1 Agility die you're rolling every turn, you can always guess "zero" with Threepio and guarantee that you mitigate 1 damage every turn the Falcon gets shot at. The only catches here are that at Range 3 you'll have to make a legitimate guess, and versus Wedge you can't use Threepio at all.

This then frees up your action to use on Marksmanship, so you can concentrate on dealing some decent damage every round with Han and the Gunner.

The X-Wings are there to provide support.

So what does everyone think; can Han and The Professor make a good pairing out there? It seems like they fit together well, especially if someone tries to tell you the odds of successfully guessing the number of evades you would roll at Range 3. You know what you get to tell them... <_<

Maybe you do, but reading your post, sounds like you plan on using him for every attack

Every time I see 3P0 + Han I feel compelled to share the wave 4 Nuclear Option:

Han Solo (64)

Push the Limit

C3P0

Millennium Falcon

Luke Skywalker

Engine Upgrade

3x Bandit Squadron Pilot (36)

Insane end-game power on Han. 2 Guaranteed evades per round as long as you get your actions. You can Boost + Evade every round and still should do damage. Bonus: it eats high PS Phantoms for breakfast.

So with the Tantive IV out, I've been thinking of this list;

Han (46)

->Marksmanship (3)

->C3P0 (3)

->Gunner (5)

Total: 57pts

Rookie Pilot (21)

Rookie Pilot (21)

The whole thing totals to 99pts, and I guess you could drop an R2 on one of the X-Wings if you wanted to fill it in and not worry about initiative.

My thinking with that Han setup is that with your (usually) 1 Agility die you're rolling every turn, you can always guess "zero" with Threepio and guarantee that you mitigate 1 damage every turn the Falcon gets shot at. The only catches here are that at Range 3 you'll have to make a legitimate guess, and versus Wedge you can't use Threepio at all.

This then frees up your action to use on Marksmanship, so you can concentrate on dealing some decent damage every round with Han and the Gunner.

The X-Wings are there to provide support.

So what does everyone think; can Han and The Professor make a good pairing out there? It seems like they fit together well, especially if someone tries to tell you the odds of successfully guessing the number of evades you would roll at Range 3. You know what you get to tell them... <_<

3po is a good card, but you do know you can only use him once per round?

Maybe you do, but reading your post, sounds like you plan on using him for every attack

By "turn" I meant round, so yes, I'm aware. I was just highlighting how Threepio can keep 1 damage per round off of the ship, which can be more or less useful, depending on how many rounds the game goes on for, whether there's a Wedge in the air, etc.

Nice idea certainly. What about spending that 1 point on the Falcon tiile card?

Here is a slightly different take:

Han (46)

Push the Limit (3)

Nien Numb (1)

C3-PO (3)

MF Title (1)

Total 54 pts

Biggs (25)

Rookie (21)

Han sort of has a "reroll to hit" mechanic already, with PtL he can use a focus and evade action each round and Nien Numb can help shed the stress. C3-PO then can guess "1 evade result". Biggs draws enemy fire as usual.

Alternatively drop Nien Numb and demote Biggs to a Rookie and take a Recon Specialist. No you have focus on attack and defense. This helps C3-PO even more as you can choose to spend a focus token in defense to create the "C3-PO probability affect" to your liking!

Would you not still just want to guess "zero" for your Evade roll?

If you have Focus and Evade tokens on the Falcon, that just helps you after the fact. So you would pick up your green die, call "zero", then roll it. If you get an Evade, Threepio gives you nothing, but you have the Evade token to cancel 2 hits total.

If the die comes up blank, you get 2 Evades total (Threepio and the Evade token), and if it comes up Focus, you get 3 Evades total (Threepio, Focus, Evade).

Of course if you guess right on rolling a natural Evade, You could get 3 Evade results, same as with the Focus scenario.

Ultimately, I was intrigued by how Threepio can basically ensure you ignore 1 damage every game turn. It seems that if you're going against a small number of ships, this becomes more valuable, less so against something like a 8-ship TIE Swarm.

3PO seems to enhance the Falcon's endgame.

3PO seems to enhance the Falcon's endgame.

Right?!

Like, if it's down to the Falcon and the remnants of your opponent's list, especially in a 1v1 scenario, being able to guarantee an evade without using an action seems like a good closer.

"I Suggest A New Strategy: Let The Wookie Win"

Chewbacca

C3PO, Recon Specialist, Push the Limit, Engine Upgrade - 56

Blue Squadron Pilot - 22

Blue Squadron Pilot - 22

Good grief.

I'm going to love messing around with Falcon/C3PO builds. I feel like it would almost be more thematic if Han somehow got worse when flying with Goldenrod, though. :P "Never tell me the odds!"

I'm going to love messing around with Falcon/C3PO builds. I feel like it would almost be more thematic if Han somehow got worse when flying with Goldenrod, though. :P "Never tell me the odds!"

Cards that give back points for negative effects would be interesting. I think Fallout used that and in Hackmaster I had an archer with a goiter that added to damage when I took critical hits...

I am glad to see Han + PTL + MF title finally gaining ground! That has been my go-to setup for the falcon since I got it and it makes it Take Sooo much longer to kill! That one evade per round makes a huge difference. It's like adding 2-3 to your Shield stat for 4 points. And we all know how deadly Han can be, what if you can keep him alive for two more round? Now with C3P0 he is going to be even tankier! I see Han Shoots First becoming a dominant list again.