IA list debate

By iPeregrine, in X-Wing

I have two lists in mind, and I can't decide which one to use:

List #1:

Dagger b-wing + advanced sensors

Hobbie + stress droid

Red x-wing

Red x-wing or Tarn Mison

It's a classic XXBB list, but with Hobbie and his stress replacing one of the b-wings. I've had good results with Hobbie's ability to control maneuver options, but I'm a bit concerned about how durable the list is going to be with only one b-wing.

The second question of course is red vs. Tarn: in testing the free target locks have been nice but not amazing, so I'm not sure it's worth losing a point of PS.

List #2:

Chewbacca + marksmanship + gunner + C3P0

Red x-wing

Red x-wing

I used a similar list with blues + advanced sensors as the meatshields, and loved how many shots they tanked before dying but didn't like how often they died against PS 3-4 enemies before getting in one last round of shooting. So instead I've got PS 4 meatshields and a tank upgrade on the Falcon. The downside here is I haven't had an opportunity to test this one, so I don't really know how much I like it.

Also, in both cases I should point out that the PS 4 bid is worth it in the local metagame, there's a lot of PS 2-4 stuff that makes it relevant.

I think I'd go with the 2nd list. You can sub a Knave Squad and Lt Blount in there for the 2 X-Wings for 100 points, leaving you to a point with the same basic squad, other then that the Z will die fairly quickly but the E should last longer so it may end up being the same thing.

To clarify, this is for the normal rounds to reach the final game, not for the final game with the new ships. If I manage to make top-2 then I'm not too worried about what list to take since I doubt my opponent is going to want my Z-95 instead of one of the expensive toys.

To clarify, this is for the normal rounds to reach the final game, not for the final game with the new ships.

Yeah I know, I'm saying that if you get to the final round you can replace your two X's with the Z and E and have the list be more or less play the same. I'm not so sure if the first list would work as well with a Z and E wing in it.

I figure I'd want to use a list for the final match that most closely matched the list I've been playing with.

Both look good and to be honest I think it's much of a muchness and comes down to what you enjoy/play style. I do think B-Wings are better with the Falcon though.

If you’re concerned about the durability of list 1, maybe a refinement to something like this?

Dagger, FCS

Dagger, FCS

Hobbie, Stress Bot

Rookie

Keeps your Hobbie combo and adds some confidence in staying power by the second B. Obivious downside is your concern with PS of the Rookie.

For list 2 I'm not sold on the dual X's with a single Falcon as I think they are (generally) easier to kill than B's. Again, a suggestion to consider:

Chewie, Gunner, Falcon Title

Dagger, FCS

Dagger, FCS

You lose a bit of hitting power on Chewie (arguably equal/more reliable defence) but gain durability of the B's and spread of threat due to FCS.

Having said all of the above - They are just refinement suggestions and both of your lists are solid. Personally I'm not against YT's but I tend to find them a bit boring to fly (unless you start adding EH/Engines ect).

Edited by McBain