So i love the combo of Wes with VI and Wedge with opportunist, but I'm thinking of throwing Dutch in there with Ion as my third ship rather than going with the standard third X wing. Thoughts?
XXY Wes Wedge and Dutch
Wedge will evaporate in the first salvo, followed by Wes and then you're left with Dutch. Try Ibtisam instead with opportunist.
I'm a big fan of dutch. I also like running lots of x wings. This is a tuffy, though seems to have lots of good synergy. I know everyone thinks wedge / wes will be pulling all the agro, though if you fly your y wing up front you might give them a better target due to his low agility and give wes / wedge more time to plink away. Else you'll be handing out TL until hes last, either way doesn't seem to bad. Plus the Y will add some extra HP. Were you planning on using this for a tournament or just for casual?
on a different note, it's really to bad no Y wings have EPT's... you could give em DTF.
Would it make a different if Wed and Wes both had Shield Upgrade?
I'm a big fan of dutch. I also like running lots of x wings. This is a tuffy, though seems to have lots of good synergy. I know everyone thinks wedge / wes will be pulling all the agro, though if you fly your y wing up front you might give them a better target due to his low agility and give wes / wedge more time to plink away. Else you'll be handing out TL until hes last, either way doesn't seem to bad. Plus the Y will add some extra HP. Were you planning on using this for a tournament or just for casual?
on a different note, it's really to bad no Y wings have EPT's... you could give em DTF.
Tournament maybe.
Edited by Goknights12shield + R2D2 I'd say yes it would definately help, probably won't discourage people from concentrating on him though. Knowing most people they will still try and take out wedge / wes first. Wedge is basically another version of biggs due to his awesome ability. Hence the reason most people fly Wedge and biggs together.
shield + R2D2 I'd say yes it would definately help, probably won't discourage people from concentrating on him though. Knowing most people they will still try and take out wedge / wes first. Wedge is basically another version of biggs due to his awesome ability. Hence the reason most people fly Wedge and biggs together.
Biggs is too defensive for the list. To spend all of those points on him just to be shot at kills... I was thinking shield and R2 unit for all green maneuvers so I could use opportunist. The hope is to take a ship out a turn.
shield + R2D2 I'd say yes it would definately help, probably won't discourage people from concentrating on him though. Knowing most people they will still try and take out wedge / wes first. Wedge is basically another version of biggs due to his awesome ability. Hence the reason most people fly Wedge and biggs together.
Biggs is too defensive for the list. To spend all of those points on him just to be shot at kills... I was thinking shield and R2 unit for all green maneuvers so I could use opportunist. The hope is to take a ship out a turn.
I concur doctor! If you want an attack list, don't take biggs as wedge will actually act as him anyways for your other two ships (or wes). what upgrades were you planning to use on dutch?
Wes with VI to make him PS10 and Shield Upgrade. Dutch with Ion. Wedge with R2 unit, shield upgrade, opportunist
shield + R2D2 I'd say yes it would definately help, probably won't discourage people from concentrating on him though. Knowing most people they will still try and take out wedge / wes first. Wedge is basically another version of biggs due to his awesome ability. Hence the reason most people fly Wedge and biggs together.
Biggs is too defensive for the list. To spend all of those points on him just to be shot at kills... I was thinking shield and R2 unit for all green maneuvers so I could use opportunist. The hope is to take a ship out a turn.
I concur doctor! If you want an attack list, don't take biggs as wedge will actually act as him anyways for your other two ships (or wes). what upgrades were you planning to use on dutch?
Wes with VI to make him PS10 and Shield Upgrade. Dutch with Ion. Wedge with R2 unit, shield upgrade, opportunist
I'm looking at a similar list for Imdaar, myself:
Wes + VI + R5-P9
Wedge + Opportunist + R2 mech
Luke + Oppurtunist +R2 mech
It's a lot of fun, packs a punch, and the R2 units really help clear the stresses generated from Opportunist.
This squad has done well against bomber lists in playtesting for Imdaar, and just barely beat out a TIE swarm yesterday. I'm still not 100% sold on this one, as a few of the bomber games were rather close, and we've only had the one TIE swarm test so far, but hey, I won, so who knows?!
I'm looking at a similar list for Imdaar, myself:
Wes + VI + R5-P9
Wedge + Opportunist + R2 mech
Luke + Oppurtunist +R2 mech
It's a lot of fun, packs a punch, and the R2 units really help clear the stresses generated from Opportunist.
This squad has done well against bomber lists in playtesting for Imdaar, and just barely beat out a TIE swarm yesterday. I'm still not 100% sold on this one, as a few of the bomber games were rather close, and we've only had the one TIE swarm test so far, but hey, I won, so who knows?!
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I never really thought about putting opportunist on Luke... what if you used Garven? Nevermind... IIIIIII'm dumb
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on a different note, it's really to bad no Y wings have EPT's... you could give em DTF.
There's an R2? unit that gives someone a EPT, only costs 1 pt. Don't recall his name. He came with the transport I think.
R2-D6
on a different note, it's really to bad no Y wings have EPT's... you could give em DTF.
There's an R2? unit that gives someone a EPT, only costs 1 pt. Don't recall his name. He came with the transport I think.
good call, i forgot about that little guy! Still at least one y-wing pilot should have an EPT... I have no doubt that rebel aces 2 will have one though (or another large rebel ship will come with one).
Anyways R2D6 opens up a few more options with dutch. not much really though, only ones that looked decent and worth the an ugrade from one of the x's was DTF or maybe predator (which isn't even out yet..).
Edited by oddeye
on a different note, it's really to bad no Y wings have EPT's... you could give em DTF.
There's an R2? unit that gives someone a EPT, only costs 1 pt. Don't recall his name. He came with the transport I think.
good call, i forgot about that little guy! Still at least one y-wing pilot should have an EPT... I have no doubt that rebel aces 2 will have one though (or another large rebel ship will come with one).
Anyways R2D6 opens up a few more options with dutch. not much really though, only ones that looked decent and worth the an ugrade from one of the x's was DTF or maybe predator (which isn't even out yet..).
Give Wes a Hull upgrade so that way I can put the One droid on Dutch?
on a different note, it's really to bad no Y wings have EPT's... you could give em DTF.
There's an R2? unit that gives someone a EPT, only costs 1 pt. Don't recall his name. He came with the transport I think.
good call, i forgot about that little guy! Still at least one y-wing pilot should have an EPT... I have no doubt that rebel aces 2 will have one though (or another large rebel ship will come with one).
Anyways R2D6 opens up a few more options with dutch. not much really though, only ones that looked decent and worth the an ugrade from one of the x's was DTF or maybe predator (which isn't even out yet..).
Give Wes a Hull upgrade so that way I can put the One droid on Dutch?
well R2D6 on dutch only costs 1 point, though any EPT you give him thats granted by R2D6 will cost points. You'll have to play around with the upgrades on the x's to free up the points for R2D6 and the EPT if you wanted to go that route. swapping the shield upgrade for hull will only free up one point for the droid on dutch. Your original list was exactly 100pts.
Why go through all that effort of using Dutch?
You can use Etahn A'baht + Opportunist and now everyone effectively has a multirange Mercenary co-pilot on board.
Wes + VI
Wedge + Opportunist
Etahn + Opportunist
Leaves you a point for Initiative or to buy R4D6.
Why go through all that effort of using Dutch?
You can use Etahn A'baht + Opportunist and now everyone effectively has a multirange Mercenary co-pilot on board.
Wes + VI
Wedge + Opportunist
Etahn + Opportunist
Leaves you a point for Initiative or to buy R4D6.
true true. though right now I do not have Etahn at my disposal
There is always VI for Dutch. Having higher PS and being able to shoot first could mean 1 less enemy ship to fire back. That combo would only be 2 points.
Why go through all that effort of using Dutch?
You can use Etahn A'baht + Opportunist and now everyone effectively has a multirange Mercenary co-pilot on board.
Wes + VI
Wedge + Opportunist
Etahn + Opportunist
Leaves you a point for Initiative or to buy R4D6.
My Rogue Squadron list will be getting Etahn to replace Luke as soon as he comes into my possession.
Why go through all that effort of using Dutch?
You can use Etahn A'baht + Opportunist and now everyone effectively has a multirange Mercenary co-pilot on board.
Wes + VI
Wedge + Opportunist
Etahn + Opportunist
Leaves you a point for Initiative or to buy R4D6.
My Rogue Squadron list will be getting Etahn to replace Luke as soon as he comes into my possession.
how about coran with predator? great pew pew list that blurs target priority since all of em are deadly.
wedge + predator
wes + VI
Corran + predator
Edit: and you don't have to worry about stress generation from opportunist.. no free points left though, comes to 100.
Edited by oddeye
Why go through all that effort of using Dutch?
You can use Etahn A'baht + Opportunist and now everyone effectively has a multirange Mercenary co-pilot on board.
Wes + VI
Wedge + Opportunist
Etahn + Opportunist
Leaves you a point for Initiative or to buy R4D6.
My Rogue Squadron list will be getting Etahn to replace Luke as soon as he comes into my possession.
how about coran with predator? great pew pew list that blurs target priority since all of em are deadly.
wedge + predator
wes + VI
Corran + predator
Edit: and you don't have to worry about stress generation from opportunist.. no free points left though, comes to 100.
Okay Dutch or Ibitsam? Final possible change
Your only chance with this list is to knock ships out before they shoot back. Taking Dutch will drop your attack dice by one, but if you boost the likelyhood of Wedge's 4 attack dice hitting, you will probably do more damage than bringing Ibby. Just make sure Wedge focuses!