Where does it say you cannot perform the same action twice?

if you perform a right boost could you the perform a left boost?

Does stress affect your ability to take a free action? i.e. Turr Phennir with PTL. Move, then boost. use PTL to target lock and receives a stress. Does that stress prevent using the free barrel roll action?

I don't know chapter-and-verse, but I believe it's in the standard core-set rulebook.

Nope: Boost itself is the action.

You cannot perform actions while stressed, unless you're that one A-Wing pilot. You can, however, trigger PTL off of a Free Action just as easily as you would off of your regular action, so Turr can still get his 3, provided 2 of them are after he shoots.

Core rule book, Page 9, bottom of the first column,

a ship cannot perform the same action more than once during a single game round (not even when the action is a "free action").

emphasis theirs

Core rule book, Page 9, bottom of the first column,

Chapter and Verse.

Where does it say you cannot perform the same action twice?

Core rule book, page 9

if you perform a right boost could you the perform a left boost?

It is still a boost action, see above.

Does stress affect your ability to take a free action? i.e. Turr Phennir with PTL. Move, then boost. use PTL to target lock and receives a stress. Does that stress prevent using the free barrel roll action?

Core rulebook page 17, top left.

How could you trigger PTL during the fire phase? My understanding or Turr P. is that he gets a free boost or barrel roll after he attacks. I don't want to make that ability useless by triggering PTL and giving him a stress token.

Example: Turr moves, then barrel rolls out of arc or opponent then uses PTL to target lock that Opponent and gets a stress token for the second action. During the fire phase he shoots and hits his target doing damage (just in case his ability is reliant on that. I don't have it with me right now). Can he take the free boost or does the stress token prevent that?

***thanks for the help by the way guys.***

You don't use PTL after his regular action, you use it after his free action in the combat phase.

So he moves

He Focuses (interceptors don't have TL, do they?)

Then he attacks the opponent

Then he gets a free boost/roll from the attack

Then he activates PTL off the boost/roll to perform a free action (one he hasn't already performed that round)

Wow. that is incredible. that seems to make his ability even better. Especially with the large amount of green on his dial. thanks for the clarification.

You don't use PTL after his regular action, you use it after his free action in the combat phase.

So he moves

He Focuses (interceptors don't have TL, do they?)

Then he attacks the opponent

Then he gets a free boost/roll from the attack

Then he activates PTL off the boost/roll to perform a free action (one he hasn't already performed that round)

I didn't even consider that...now I must try Turd Ferguson, I mean Turr Phenir.

Wow. that is incredible. that seems to make his ability even better. Especially with the large amount of green on his dial. thanks for the clarification.

You don't use PTL after his regular action, you use it after his free action in the combat phase.

So he moves

He Focuses (interceptors don't have TL, do they?)

Then he attacks the opponent

Then he gets a free boost/roll from the attack

Then he activates PTL off the boost/roll to perform a free action (one he hasn't already performed that round)

I didn't even consider that...now I must try Turd Ferguson, I mean Turr Phenir.

I actually think he's a better pilot than Soontir Fel when he's got PTL going. I know that's sacriledge, but if you've got fewer than PS 7 and Turr Phennir doesn't want to get hit by you, you've got one hell of a time trying to force the issue.

You don't use PTL after his regular action, you use it after his free action in the combat phase.

So he moves

He Focuses (interceptors don't have TL, do they?)

Then he attacks the opponent

Then he gets a free boost/roll from the attack

Then he activates PTL off the boost/roll to perform a free action (one he hasn't already performed that round)

I don't understand. Maybe I'm wrong but as I can see you can't spend an action ( except for turr special ability) after attacking. So why you are able to use ptl after attacking and using your free special boost or barrel roll ability?

You don't use PTL after his regular action, you use it after his free action in the combat phase.

So he moves

He Focuses (interceptors don't have TL, do they?)

Then he attacks the opponent

Then he gets a free boost/roll from the attack

Then he activates PTL off the boost/roll to perform a free action (one he hasn't already performed that round)

I don't understand. Maybe I'm wrong but as I can see you can't spend an action ( except for turr special ability) after attacking. So why you are able to use ptl after attacking and using your free special boost or barrel roll ability?

I hope you understand that we are talking specifically about Turr in this instance. Other pilots cannot normally do this. Turr gets a free boost or barrel roll action after attacking. It is this free action which triggers PTL.

You don't use PTL after his regular action, you use it after his free action in the combat phase.

So he moves

He Focuses (interceptors don't have TL, do they?)

Then he attacks the opponent

Then he gets a free boost/roll from the attack

Then he activates PTL off the boost/roll to perform a free action (one he hasn't already performed that round)

I don't understand. Maybe I'm wrong but as I can see you can't spend an action ( except for turr special ability) after attacking. So why you are able to use ptl after attacking and using your free special boost or barrel roll ability?

I hope you understand that we are talking specifically about Turr in this instance. Other pilots cannot normally do this. Turr gets a free boost or barrel roll action after attacking. It is this free action which triggers PTL.

Push the Limit can trigger off of any action, including free ones. It can only be triggered once per round, but phase is irrelevant.

Turr Phennir gets a (specific) free action after attacking

Ergo....

Example: Turr moves, then barrel rolls out of arc or opponent then uses PTL to target lock that Opponent and gets a stress token for the second action. During the fire phase he shoots and hits his target doing damage (just in case his ability is reliant on that. I don't have it with me right now). Can he take the free boost or does the stress token prevent that?

I hope you realise that PtL only allows a free action from your ship's action bar. It doesn't give you an action that you can't normally perform. As Turr doesn't have the target lock action icon, you can't choose this as your free action granted from PtL. A free action is one that is normally in addition to the one that you can take during the Perform Action step, but unless the card or ability states the specific action to take, it would normally be one from your action bar, and limited by the rule that you can't perform the same action twice during a round.

Also, once you pick up a stress token, you can't perform any actions, even free ones.

I hope you realise that PtL only allows a free action from your ship's action bar. It doesn't give you an action that you can't normally perform. As Turr doesn't have the target lock action icon, you can't choose this as your free action granted from PtL. A free action is one that is normally in addition to the one that you can take during the Perform Action step, but unless the card or ability states the specific action to take, it would normally be one from your action bar, and limited by the rule that you can't perform the same action twice during a round.

As a general rule, this is true. However, Targeting Computer like Engine Upgrade specifically adds the action to the action bar and so an Interceptor with a Targeting Computer can Push the Limit to Target Lock.

Yes, I was aware that this would be an option, although Dukewolf didn't mention it in his example, which made me wonder what he thought a "free action" actually was. I've seen it a couple of times where a player thought a "free" action was "any" action.

Even better, if he bumps into another ship, so long as he can fire, he can then barrel roll or boost and trigger PTL for an evade or focus.

Even better, if he bumps into another ship, so long as he can fire, he can then barrel roll or boost and trigger PTL for an evade or focus.

Evades and Focuses are nice and all, but there's no defense as good as not being in their firing arc.

Even better, if he bumps into another ship, so long as he can fire, he can then barrel roll or boost and trigger PTL for an evade or focus.

Evades and Focuses are nice and all, but there's no defense as good as not being in their firing arc.

Naturally, but often when you're bumped intentionally, that may not be an option.

Even better, if he bumps into another ship, so long as he can fire, he can then barrel roll or boost and trigger PTL for an evade or focus.

Evades and Focuses are nice and all, but there's no defense as good as not being in their firing arc.

Naturally, but often when you're bumped intentionally, that may not be an option.

What I'm saying is that you can Boost mid-combat, trigger PTL, and Barrel-Roll (or vice-versa), for the ultimate in ninja agility. No need for tokens most of the time.

Even better, if he bumps into another ship, so long as he can fire, he can then barrel roll or boost and trigger PTL for an evade or focus.

Evades and Focuses are nice and all, but there's no defense as good as not being in their firing arc.

Naturally, but often when you're bumped intentionally, that may not be an option.

What I'm saying is that you can Boost mid-combat, trigger PTL, and Barrel-Roll (or vice-versa), for the ultimate in ninja agility. No need for tokens most of the time.

If I wasn't aware of the Boost + PtL + Barrel Roll combo, I wouldn't own six interceptors....

As I said, sometimes you can't boost and barrel roll out of all arcs and the evade or focus is better than nothing.

Yep i knew that you could only do actions on your bar. In that example I was just trying to throw other actions in there to make sure What I was saying came across right. I was at work and didn't have the figure in front of me. But thanks for the clarification. Certainly not out of the realm of possibility with as bad as I seem to have botched a lot of rules my first few games with my kids. Man that first game on Vassal with an experienced player was eye opening.