is this considered legal play?

By Krynn007, in X-Wing

This is a good question, especially for Bs with Advanced Sensors. To look and check the maneuver you picked before you 'reveal' your dial to your opponent if you're gonna use Advanced Sensors would be good to be able to do. The group I've always played with stresses that you just have to remember what you did and that you can't check before you use that card. But, the card says before you "reveal' your dial... So I guess maybe I can look at it because I'm not necessarily revealing it to myself if I'm just checking to make sure if I'm going to use that card.

Something to think about...

I figured clutter to be an issue and if playing against a same faction opponent, the possibility of picking up one of my opponent's dial for my ships could happen.

I've actually done this by accident in a friendly game, hence one of the reasons why I now stick to placing my dials on my cards.

Alternatively, paint the backs of your dials (making sure to maintain rotational symmetry. Don't want to get a TO called over for marked dials). Just make your center lime-green or something.

Is that frown upon during tournamentplay though?

I thought most put their dials on the table.

This is my second tournament btw so I'm still new with this aspect of the game

I believe tournament rules state dials and tokens must be on the board next to the corresponding ship.

For everyone talking about just remembering what maneuver you set, I direct you to the rulebook, page 6

"A player may look a his own face down maneuver dials at any time,..."

Alternatively, paint the backs of your dials (making sure to maintain rotational symmetry. Don't want to get a TO called over for marked dials). Just make your center lime-green or something.

You can't be docked for marking the backs of your dials. The reason why they mention the symmetry is to avoid your opponent being able to work out what maneuver you are going to do by the marking on the back and where the notch currently lies in correspondence to this.

I'm sorry to hear this. I kept my dials on my cards during my rounds. I figured clutter to be an issue and if playing against a same faction opponent, the possibility of picking up one of my opponent's dial for my ships could happen. Did your brother's opponent accuse him of cheating and notify the TO? I played him in round 4 and he already seemed flustered.

He was operating at low amounts of sleep and stress, but needless to say he is a very..."passionate" person. I can't defend him for all of his actions and I tried to calm him down, but I was listening in on that game and it was actually kinda ticking me off how his opponent, (Daryle? person you played in demis) was acting towards him. He did accuse my brother of cheating and when my brother got loud about it the TO came over, he changed his story, not only that but he was rushing my brother but then did the reverse when he had a tough decision. I have to say it was very unsportsman like for both players and they both fed off each other. I don't know why my brother was getting upset in your game but I can only say he was most likely hungry by that time and even more tired. Needless to say I have learned he is probably not the best to take to a marathon tournament.

For the ruling on the dials, I think by the ship causes the least amount of problems for situations like this, yes it says you can place dials on ship card, but some people tend to cause a fuss about that, so I tend to go by the rule book for it and not the tourney mirror match up option. If my opponent wants to do this once we are clumped together I can see that being reasonable.

Edited by Hujoe Bigs

I'm sorry to hear this. I kept my dials on my cards during my rounds. I figured clutter to be an issue and if playing against a same faction opponent, the possibility of picking up one of my opponent's dial for my ships could happen. Did your brother's opponent accuse him of cheating and notify the TO? I played him in round 4 and he already seemed flustered.

He was operating at low amounts of sleep and stress, but needless to say he is a very..."passionate" person. I can't defend him for all of his actions and I tried to calm him down, but I was listening in on that game and it was actually kinda ticking me off how his opponent, (Daryle? person you played in demis) was acting towards him. He did accuse my brother of cheating and when my brother got loud about it the TO came over, he changed his story, not only that but he was rushing my brother but then did the reverse when he had a tough decision. I have to say it was very unsportsman like for both players and they both fed off each other. I don't know why my brother was getting upset in your game but I can only say he was most likely hungry by that time and even more tired. Needless to say I have learned he is probably not the best to take to a marathon tournament.

For the ruling on the dials, I think by the ship causes the least amount of problems for situations like this, yes it says you can place dials on ship card, but some people tend to cause a fuss about that, so I tend to go by the rule book for it and not the tourney mirror match up option. If my opponent wants to do this once we are clumped together I can see that being reasonable.

Could have been the dice roll results (his and mine).

I used to place my dials by my ships. During the Store Championships, I had my dials picked up a couple times. Since that time, I started placing my dials on the cards. I guess marking the center plastic button might be the best way to go.

For everyone talking about just remembering what maneuver you set, I direct you to the rulebook, page 6

"A player may look a his own face down maneuver dials at any time,..."

There it is! Thanks for pointing that out.

For everyone talking about just remembering what maneuver you set, I direct you to the rulebook, page 6

"A player may look a his own face down maneuver dials at any time,..."

There it is! Thanks for pointing that out.

the quote sounds like you are allowed to stare at the backside of your maneuver dial at any time. ;)

For everyone talking about just remembering what maneuver you set, I direct you to the rulebook, page 6

"A player may look a his own face down maneuver dials at any time,..."

There it is! Thanks for pointing that out.

the quote sounds like you are allowed to stare at the backside of your maneuver dial at any time. ;)

Well it does have delicious curves.

I tend to stick with putting the dial on the table as close to the ship as possible. But when it does turn into a close range furrball, I pull them back and put them about 6" in front of their card. If the furball opens up range, the dials go back next to the ship. Once the ship has activated and moved, I place the dial ON the card so I know who has moved. Works for me.

I think it's quite acceptable to move tokens out of the way when needed, as long as they stay on or near their ship. It's only the ships you've got to avoid bumping. We had a player in our group that put dials on his cards and was always picking up the wrong dial. A case of " I'm going to move my X-wing " and he'd flip a Y-wing dial. :huh: :rolleyes: Face palms all round!

A somewhat related question, when i am moving several ships with the same pilot skill i often flip over all their dials at once and then decide what order would be best to actually move them in. It seems like it wouldn't matter since it's the same as if i kept peeking at my dials to check but this way takes much less time.

I just don't want to have some random guy suddenly throw a tantrum at me over it

A somewhat related question, when i am moving several ships with the same pilot skill i often flip over all their dials at once and then decide what order would be best to actually move them in. It seems like it wouldn't matter since it's the same as if i kept peeking at my dials to check but this way takes much less time.

I just don't want to have some random guy suddenly throw a tantrum at me over it

If I say, these three Ties are going two forward and then focusing my opponent can't really gainsay me when I put focuses on all of them after I finish moving. The same applies to any other simultaneous reveals.