ION CANNON TRICKERY

By homar32, in X-Wing

I was wondering about the ion cannon legality, recent game I used it to manipulate the falcon off the boundary to rid the battlefield of his ship...legal move or illegal? I think its legal and crafty use of the weapon but he was upset to lose a full health falcon, flew to close to the edge lol

legal, as long as it was 2 ion tokens that led the falcon off the board.

Why two tokens? the card that comes with the ion description states a token not how many...

Read the card again, small base = 1 token, large base = 2 tokens needed!

Why two tokens? the card that comes with the ion description states a token not how many...

Large ships require two ion tokens to be affected. It's in their rules.

so does two hits equal two tokens? or only one per ion use

The ion card came out before wave 2, but if you look in the big ship manuals it says two tokens to ionize. So it sounds like you fudged the rules. Legal, but you better make sure you're following the rules.

You only receive ONE ion token per attack, no matter how many hits penetrate defense. The exception is the upcoming Ion Pulse Missile, which states TWO ion tokens so that it may ionize big ships in one shot.

You need to hit large ships with ion canons twice, each one deals 1 ion token. Until a large ship has 2 or more, it ignores them.

so the rule is on the big ship manual, yah looks like if fudged the cake lol, I reread the card right now and it didn't specify.

Each ion shot nets one ion token on the ship. The rules for large ships and ions are in the large ship rule inserts.

You have to hit large ships twice, two separate attackers, before they are ionized, unless you hit them with an Ion Missle, soon to be released. Also Ion tokens are only removed on the turn that they are ionized, ie lose their movement control, so a large ship can gain its ion tokens over multiple rounds.

got it thanks lol, question about the hawk though...it states when you use a focus token you gain a focus token...but is that still valid if it gained stress from a previous attack?

got it thanks lol, question about the hawk though...it states when you use a focus token you gain a focus token...but is that still valid if it gained stress from a previous attack?

I think there's something else to that. The HWK has a lot of Focus interactions between it's pilots, titles, crew, turret. Please specify.

so does two hits equal two tokens? or only one per ion use

Edit: wow super ninja'd!! I guess that's what I get for starting a reply and not finishing it for like 5 minutes haha!

Edited by Cptnhalfbeard

Recon specialist card...he had stress because the pilot ablity says he can use a stress token to roll additional attack die, but then used focus to change die...then added another focus during same turn.....due to card that says "when you perform a focus action assign 1 additional focus token to your ship"

Recon specialist card...he had stress because the pilot ablity says he can use a stress token to roll additional attack die, but then used focus to change die...then added another focus during same turn.....due to card that says "when you perform a focus action assign 1 additional focus token to your ship"

A focus action is not using a focus token it is taking the action that gains him one. The one on his action bar. That means that when he initially focuses he gets two tokens. He doesn't get any more than that later on unless they are passed to him by Garven, Kyle, or Comms Booster. And they only give him 1.

Edited by Aminar

Taking the Focus ACTION and using a Focus TOKEN are different things. You can't take a Focus ACTION while stressed, and that is when you would receive the extra Focus token. When you use a Focus token, you do not receive another one.

Edited by Skargoth

got it thanks

Using Ionization to "escort" a pesky ship off the board is a great tactic.

With few exceptions giving a ship an Ion token will require suffering damage.

Large ships require TWO Ion tokens before suffering the effect; it's noted in their rules.

There is a difference between a "hit" and a [hit]. The term [hit] is often used to show an attack die's roll result. Now this can lead to a "hit" in game terms be a "hit" requires that explosion symbols, filled or unfilled, remain after defense dice and tokens can cancel them out. You could roll [hit] [hit] [hit] with your attack dice but if the opponent rolls [evade] [evade] and spends an Evade Token your attack will NOT 'hit' the target.

Spending a token is NOT the same as performing an Action.

So a large ship can't do anything to rid a single Ion token until it receives a second and becomes ionized, correct?

That's correct. A good tactic if you have an Ion Cannon on the board is to get a ion token on a big ship early and just leave it there so they can't get too close to the edge, since all you have to do is add its ion buddy to cause them unhappiness.

Edited by Hexis

So a large ship can't do anything to rid a single Ion token until it receives a second and becomes ionized, correct?

I'm thinking that if it is destroyed it will lose the token but that isn't what you are going for. At the present time there is now way to rid yourself of a ion token except for becoming ionized. Note that when you suffer the ion effect it removes ALL ion token so piling them on really doesn't help either.