With the EU being tossed in to a blender, could it be that the Rebel Alliance can now fly E-Wings before the battle of Endor, and hence appear in the period this RPG covers?

Certainly this article implies so!

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=4825

I think the E-Wing is one of the more pleasing designs to come out of the EU. In particular, it looks like it could belong to the same 'family' as the X-Wing.

I would like it a lot more if that gun over the cockpit was under the nose.

I would like it a lot more if that gun over the cockpit was under the nose.

I'd say that the canopy opens by sliding forwards, like on an N1 starfighter or the Tim Burton badmobile.

The pilot has to squeeze around the cannon a bit when getting in, but thats no biggy. When the ejector seat fires explosive bolts blow the whole weapon assembly clear before the pilot exits. It will look awesome on the screen, trust me ( :0) )

I would like it a lot more if that gun over the cockpit was under the nose.

I agree, I'm thinking the constant muzzle flash from a barrel right in front of your windshield is a pretty crappy design.

Those under-wing hardpoints make the E-Wing look awesome.

I figured the E-wing was very late Galactic Civil War, so it can still be considered a "Rebel" fighter.

And it isn't that the entire EU has been chucked. Rather, all of it is disputed canon unless pasted on screen. The creators are free to mine it for material or abandon it (like the YV).

And it isn't that the entire EU has been chucked. Rather, all of it is disputed canon unless pasted on screen. The creators are free to mine it for material or abandon it (like the YV).

That kind of begs the question, what can they take from "legends" without copyright? Or does all that belong to star wars not Tor books.

I have mixed feelings about the idea of the E-Wing being around pre-Endor. On one hand the E-Wing is one of my favorite fighter models introduced by the Legends EU but so is the T-Wing which is supposed to come out sometime, probably not long after, the Battle of Yavin in the Legends timeline and I like it a lot as well. given that their roles as fast strike fighters are similar but the E-Wing is clearly superior statwise I fear it's development moving up will kill the chances of the T-Wing appearing in the FFG system.

Also why did they make Etahn A'baht a fighter pilot when all we've ever seen him as before now showed him as a naval officer?

I like the look of it as an X-wing descendant, but I also hate the barrel above the cockpit. Pilot's have part of their vision blocked looking up! Who thought that was a good idea?

I would never allow this in a campaign appearing during the original movie periods except possibly as an ultra-secret prototype being developed by the Rebels around the Battle of Endor. If it showed up in Episode VII as the new X-Wing, I would be happy with that (but again move that top barrel).

Looking at the X-Wing miniature, it's the ugliest of the lot. I like all of the pics above except the bottom two. That stubby thing made by FFG looks like crap. Sorry. It looks so much better sleeker with a long nose like the X-Wing (top 3 pics), not scrunched to look like a kid's toy version.

For the FFG RPG, I suppose the cockpit barrel could add some character - upgrade any Perception checks by the pilot when looking up.

Those under-wing hardpoints make the E-Wing look awesome.

Don't they though. I was wondering if you could do the same for an X-Wing, with both sets of wings having hardpoints, the upper set being loaded with missiles carried on their top surface.

(IRL above wing stores are unusual but not unheard of.

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The e-wing is an ugly, ugly craft. I think there was a lego set of an e-wing with a clone trooper pilot, possibly meaning that the e wing is being an older craft as well.

While I know that lego games are not canon, neither is the new republic as we know it. Fantasy flight has taken at least one CEC freighter that has not been created till the new republic and put it in the civil war era. So, that being said, you want an e-wing, have an e-wing.

For me, many of the fighter craft that were introduced post-Endor never really seemed to capture the feel of the ones in the movies. The K-Wing and E-Wing being perhaps the most egregious examples on the Rebellion/New Republic side, and the Chiss Clawcraft for the Empire.

The e-wing is an ugly, ugly craft. I think there was a lego set of an e-wing with a clone trooper pilot, possibly meaning that the e wing is being an older craft as well.

While I know that lego games are not canon, neither is the new republic as we know it. Fantasy flight has taken at least one CEC freighter that has not been created till the new republic and put it in the civil war era. So, that being said, you want an e-wing, have an e-wing.

I think you're talking about Jek-14's Stealth Starfighter , which totally isn't an E-Wing .

Regarding CEC ships, which one was that? I must have missed it.

Off topic, this thread just confirmed a suspicion of mine...

I think the CEC freighter in question was the YV-929, which when introduced in Star Wars Gamer #2 cited that it didn't start rolling off production lines until after the Battle of Endor.

Then again, seeing as how FFG has already gone against pre-established EU lore (size of the HWK-290 for the X-Wing game, stock YT-1300 having two laser turrets, YV-929 being around before the Battle of Endor), I guess we shouldn't be surprised that FFG is cherry-picking ships to include in the Rebellion Era.

Of course, it also depends on just how long of a time span the Rebellion Era covers. Could be that it's no longer just the 4 years from ANH to RotJ, and could very well cover the founding of the Alliance several years prior to ANH to several years after RotJ.

If Wookieepedia is right the variant of the YV-929 in D20 and D6 was designed partially to fight rebels,but was also used by the Rebellion and the rebellion became the Alliance of Free Star almost immediately after Endor and the New Republic not long after that so I doubt the YV-929 was introduced post-Endor.

If Wookieepedia is right the variant of the YV-929 in D20 and D6 was designed partially to fight rebels,but was also used by the Rebellion and the rebellion became the Alliance of Free Star almost immediately after Endor and the New Republic not long after that so I doubt the YV-929 was introduced post-Endor.

Prior to Dangerous Covenants, there was only the armed freighter version. DC introduced the light freighter and Wookieepedia then reconned the entry.

As noted it was the yv-929 I was mentioning. Wookiepedia has indeed changed its entry.

As for the HWK-290, FFG was just fixing wotc's stupidity.

I think I can handle the ugly e-wing as a cobbled together fighter the rebellion makes, when they can't get any real fighters.

Gone is the r7 astromech required and developed for it, in fact the clone wars showed an astromech that looked like and was called r7.

Gone is the r7 astromech required and developed for it, in fact the clone wars showed an astromech that looked like and was called r7.

This is one of the problems I've had with the EU. If you are going to play in the EU, at least see what others have done first before creating even more conflicts. Make him an R4 and everything is fine. But, a writer liked the sound of R7 better and other Clone War era writers followed suit and thus everything set years before by WEG is all mucked up.

Edit: I for one think WEG should have went with the last two letters denoting the model, not the first two. R2D2 would have been a model D2 Astromech Droid. I can't see people calling their droid by the model number with the large amount of similar droids running around. Calling out, "R2 come here!" could have got you trampled by a horde of rolling barrels in the wrong space hangar.

(yes I know they aren't all R2's, best pic I could find)

(sorry for the tangent)

Calling out, "R2 come here!" could have got you trampled by a horde of rolling barrels in the wrong space hangar.

A spy is sent on a secret mission to find "Jones", an agent in a remote village in Wales.

He is told that the codephrase is "River 7 is frozen over."

On arrival in this tiny village, he asks a passer-by whether anyone called Jones lives there.

The man replies, "well there's Jones the newsagent, Jones the greengrocer, Jones the schoolmaster, Jones the post office, and as a matter of fact my name's Jones as well."

The spy has a burst of hope........ perhaps this is his connection?

He whispers "River 7 is frozen over."

"Oh you want Jones the spy, he lives in that house across the road."

Pilot's have part of their vision blocked looking up! Who thought that was a good idea?

I would say the same people who thought putting two humongous solar panels on either side of the cockpit of a TIE Fighter to block the pilot's view, but FreiTek is an Incom offshoot company, not a Sienar one

They've shown how the canopy/cannon assembly works in the Dark Empire comics where the E-Wings first appeared, and in more detail in other sources since. A compartment slides back, splitting the cannon in half so the astromech can get out, and the front half of the cannon tilts back with the canopy. It's pretty wonky.

OK, as a mechanic, that set up makes me cry.

They've shown how the canopy/cannon assembly works in the Dark Empire comics where the E-Wings first appeared, and in more detail in other sources since. A compartment slides back, splitting the cannon in half so the astromech can get out, and the front half of the cannon tilts back with the canopy. It's pretty wonky.

As a mechanic, that set up makes me want to cry. In field conditions, you're just asking for a weapon mis-alignment, especially when the maintenance team of that particular bird can't even prevent basic surface corrosion. Also, what if the pilot had to eject? The ruddy cannon is attached to the ruddy canopy and the hull. You'd need two sperate sets of explsoive bolts to detach the thing safely, which just adds more things to go wrong in an emergency. I can see why, in the EU, the E-wing was regarded as a technical nightmare.

As a non-mechanic , that set up makes me want to cry.

Well, like Rebel techs always say, if your X-Wing isn't leaking hydraulic fluid from the S-foil actuators it means all the fluid has leaked out already.

I prefer the forwards sliding canopy solution myself. And you can load the droid from the bottom like on an N1.

I've never really liked the E-wing. It's ugly, and according to EU it had all kinds of design problems at the start.

Yeah though most of those were because they decided it would be better to use artificial Tibanna gas rather than the normal stuff. The artificial gas needed to be replaced a lot more often than regular Tibanna gas and if it ran out mid battle the fighter's Blasters were greatly weakened, and their range dropped a lot. That got fixed pretty fast though.

As for the cannon over the cockpit yeah its crazy but IRL has seen fighters with much crazier design choices hit mass production and frontline service. Just look at all the jet fighters that didn't carry cannons because the designers decided that cannons on fighters were too outdated to be of use once missiles became common air to air weapons.

Does anyone with the skills and software want to play with an image so we can see what it would look like with the central gun under the nose?

I've never really liked the E-wing. It's ugly, and according to EU it had all kinds of design problems at the start.

Well, given it was made by a guerrilla operation (researchers from Incom that escaped the Imperial purge after the X-Wing was created) that doesn't have the same degree of resources as the big companies like Incom or SFS or KDY, it's kind of expected their first production ship was going to have issues, especially if circumstances (like fighting the Empire while Palps is still running the show) force them to accelerate production.

Then again, a lot of those issues were identified and fixed within pretty short order, making a solid/reliable craft. Only problem was that around the time of the NJO, they wanted to try and pull new readers in, and so the writers had to default back to the iconic X-Wing for the good guys' primary starfighter.