So the E-wing is essentially what we want the advanced to be with 3/3/2/3. If people are going to run the E-wing I think there might be a chance to start running the advanced again, as it is almost a mirror ship.

What upgrades/combos do you think would work best?

Off the bat Vader with Oppo and Homing Missile with Carnor Jax. 5 Damage range 3 missile with focus/TL from vader can do some serious damage, leaving carnor to do the remaining 4 damage. That is a dead b-wing or a very damaged yt-1300.

So the E-wing is essentially what we want the advanced to be with 3/3/2/3. If people are going to run the E-wing I think there might be a chance to start running the advanced again, as it is almost a mirror ship.

Your logic doesn't track, for me: 3 Attack is very different from 2 Attack, the two ships have very different upgrade bars, and although we haven't seen the E-wing's dial there's no reason to suppose it's going to look much like the dial of the TIE Advanced.

Unless and until FFG does something to buff the Advanced specifically, I think it's going to remain an occasional/specialty ship.

So the E-wing is essentially what we want the advanced to be with 3/3/2/3. If people are going to run the E-wing I think there might be a chance to start running the advanced again, as it is almost a mirror ship.

Your logic doesn't track, for me: 3 Attack is very different from 2 Attack, the two ships have very different upgrade bars, and although we haven't seen the E-wing's dial there's no reason to suppose it's going to look much like the dial of the TIE Advanced.

Unless and until FFG does something to buff the Advanced specifically, I think it's going to remain an occasional/specialty ship.

3 Attack is very different, that is why I'm pairing oppo with vader. 1 banks and 2,3, forward isn't the best stress remover but isn't horrible either. Throw in a few blockers and with carnor jax you can pretty easily take their forces away. The reason I like mirror matches is that it comes down to your skill vs the opponents.

Also the dials are similar though the e-wing gets a 3k turn and a 1 forward. Its' two banks are green instead of its' 1s

3 Attack is very different, that is why I'm pairing oppo with vader. 1 banks and 2,3, forward isn't the best stress remover but isn't horrible either. Throw in a few blockers and with carnor jax you can pretty easily take their forces away. The reason I like mirror matches is that it comes down to your skill vs the opponents.

Also the dials are similar though the e-wing gets a 3k turn and a 1 forward. Its' two banks are green instead of its' 1s

Was the E-wing dial spoiled? I missed a lot last week, but that would be big!

As far as your actual build is concerned, I'd say Opportunist isn't exactly worse on PS9 but it's certainly more subtle/limited, and on Vader I prefer Concussion Missiles to Homing Missiles for cost reasons. He won't be terrible, but I think he will continue to be a little overpriced, and (having played around with the Advanced a lot lately) I do think the rest of the Advanced pilots will continue to be fairly weak in competitive play.

3 Attack is very different, that is why I'm pairing oppo with vader. 1 banks and 2,3, forward isn't the best stress remover but isn't horrible either. Throw in a few blockers and with carnor jax you can pretty easily take their forces away. The reason I like mirror matches is that it comes down to your skill vs the opponents.

Also the dials are similar though the e-wing gets a 3k turn and a 1 forward. Its' two banks are green instead of its' 1s

Was the E-wing dial spoiled? I missed a lot last week, but that would be big!

As far as your actual build is concerned, I'd say Opportunist isn't exactly worse on PS9 but it's certainly more subtle/limited, and on Vader I prefer Concussion Missiles to Homing Missiles for cost reasons. He won't be terrible, but I think he will continue to be a little overpriced, and (having played around with the Advanced a lot lately) I do think the rest of the Advanced pilots will continue to be fairly weak in competitive play.

I normally agree with Oppo on high PS pilots being bad, though paired with carnor jax and a few blockers I think it will be relatively easy to use in the first few rounds of firing. The squad build I would be most worried about being paired against is a rebel swarm as they have a ton of hp.

Was the E-wing dial spoiled? I missed a lot last week, but that would be big!

I don't think you missed much. If I recall, some photos showed up on facebook that were allegedly from an Imdaar Alpha kit.

3 Attack is very different, that is why I'm pairing oppo with vader. 1 banks and 2,3, forward isn't the best stress remover but isn't horrible either. Throw in a few blockers and with carnor jax you can pretty easily take their forces away. The reason I like mirror matches is that it comes down to your skill vs the opponents.

Also the dials are similar though the e-wing gets a 3k turn and a 1 forward. Its' two banks are green instead of its' 1s

Was the E-wing dial spoiled? I missed a lot last week, but that would be big!

Welcome back, Vorpal. Yes, you missed that the E-wing dial was leaked by someone who opened an Imdaar Alpha kit. Also, similar spoilers with the Tantive IV.

I'm getting a lot of use out of my Advanced in Epic play format. They are durable, which is a good thing in Epic play, and make great escorts for Bombers. Also, because they have a missile slot, they can join in on the Bomber's Alpha strike.

I hope the show Rebels will bring us some new Advanced pilots with some great abilities. The bad guy, "The Inquisitor" pilots and Advanced! I think that is about the only way a non-Vader Advanced will be seen in a standard 100 point, timed death match.

While I'd say the E-Wing's stats are what we may want from an Avenger Advanced the difference in attack dice really makes any "mirror match" comparison impossible. Besides, the "mirror" for the Advanced is supposed to be the X-Wing where they transpose Attack/Agility and mix up the action bars/upgrade slots.

While I'd say the E-Wing's stats are what we may want from an Avenger Advanced the difference in attack dice really makes any "mirror match" comparison impossible. Besides, the "mirror" for the Advanced is supposed to be the X-Wing where they transpose Attack/Agility and mix up the action bars/upgrade slots.

and 3 Attack + an Astromech is > then 3 Agility and Evade. At least in standard play.

While I'd say the E-Wing's stats are what we may want from an Avenger Advanced the difference in attack dice really makes any "mirror match" comparison impossible. Besides, the "mirror" for the Advanced is supposed to be the X-Wing where they transpose Attack/Agility and mix up the action bars/upgrade slots.

and 3 Attack + an Astromech is > then 3 Agility and Evade. At least in standard play.

No argument from me. To me the TIE "mirror" of an X-Wing would be 3-3-2-2 (or even 3-3-3-1 which isn't as symmetrical) which means trading Agility and Hull while leaving the firepower intact. Now that would be much easier to compare to an E-Wing, or an X-Wing, but as they stand relating an E-Wing and X-Wing is easier than an E-Wing and Advanced.

The E-wing dial is up on voidestate, it is basically an X-wing dial with the following differences:

• Adds red 3 K-turn
• Adds white 5 straight
• 3 straight now green
• 2 banks now green
• 1 banks now white

In reply to the OP, the jousting efficiency of the E-wing is slightly better than the TIE Advanced, but not by much. You will need to use the named E-wing pilots and the upgrades to make the most use out of the craft. It might make its way into some Elite 3 ship Rebel builds, but otherwise it probably won't see a lot of competitive use. Just my 2 cents.

TIE Advanced just aren't good at all for the cost. If you need to compare another craft to the TIE Advanced to make the Advanced look good, then either your comparison craft is probably sub-par as well, or you are doing the comparison wrong. In this case, it is some of both.

Final edit: Vader of course can pull some shenanigans with 2 actions. Having arguably the best ability in the entire game somewhat redeems his particular use, but not the entire TIE Advanced lineup.

The E-wing dial is up on voidestate, it is basically an X-wing dial with the following differences:

• Adds red 3 K-turn
• Adds white 5 straight
• 3 straight now green
• 2 banks now green
• 1 banks now white

In reply to the OP, the jousting efficiency of the E-wing is slightly better than the TIE Advanced, but not by much. You will need to use the named E-wing pilots and the upgrades to make the most use out of the craft. It might make its way into some Elite 3 ship Rebel builds, but otherwise it probably won't see a lot of competitive use. Just my 2 cents.

TIE Advanced just aren't good at all for the cost. If you need to compare another craft to the TIE Advanced to make the Advanced look good, then either your comparison craft is probably sub-par as well, or you are doing the comparison wrong. In this case, it is some of both.

Final edit: Vader of course can pull some shenanigans with 2 actions. Having arguably the best ability in the entire game somewhat redeems his particular use, but not the entire TIE Advanced lineup.

I guess my point was to put Vader back in the Lineup. Not the entire advance line. Vader is of course the only viable advance there is. With Opportunist he becomes a dangerous foe, but there has to be a build that bases around his opportunist.

E-Wing maneuvers, from the X-Wing Facebook page:

Another mock squad build:

Vader + Oppo + EU + Homing Missiles

Howl

Dark Curse

Academy x2

Decent overall synergy. Good blockers and good damage opportunity. Dark Curse is of course hard to deal with overall.

I've been thinking that Vader + EU + Outmaneuver is going to be a nice ship, once Wave 4 hits. Believe it or not, I've also been considering trying to run Maarek Steele with Predator.

I've been thinking that Vader + EU + Outmaneuver is going to be a nice ship, once Wave 4 hits. Believe it or not, I've also been considering trying to run Maarek Steele with Predator.

As lots of people have noted lately, against a Huge ship Maarek kind of makes sense: 2 Attack isn't a very meaningful handicap against ships with 0 Agility, and his ability mills the damage deck pretty effectively when there's just 10 cards in it. Predator makes sense, too, as it either allows you to focus or frees up your action for arc-dodging.

…but Maarek + Predator is still 30 points, and that makes me wince when I consider how bad he is at actually dogfighting*.

*Presuming the metagame doesn't somehow shift completely to 1 Agility, in which case he's just borderline instead of clearly terrible.

I've been thinking that Vader + EU + Outmaneuver is going to be a nice ship, once Wave 4 hits. Believe it or not, I've also been considering trying to run Maarek Steele with Predator.

As lots of people have noted lately, against a Huge ship Maarek kind of makes sense: 2 Attack isn't a very meaningful handicap against ships with 0 Agility, and his ability mills the damage deck pretty effectively when there's just 10 cards in it. Predator makes sense, too, as it either allows you to focus or frees up your action for arc-dodging.

…but Maarek + Predator is still 30 points, and that makes me wince when I consider how bad he is at actually dogfighting*.

*Presuming the metagame doesn't somehow shift completely to 1 Agility, in which case he's just borderline instead of clearly terrible.

The main issue with Maarek in Epic play, is that ironically his pilot skill is too high to get critical hits in. Huge ships regenerate shields during the activation phase, so you need someone at PS7+ to remove the regenerated shields (easily 3 per round) before Maarek fires.