Please explain to me how you can set up shots on a Y-wing without exposing the A-wing to return fire, when the Y-wing player is trying to prevent it.

Ion turrets are only range 2, and a y-wing's primary weapon is unlikely to ever do any damage at range 3. Your inability to maneuver well enough to avoid having your ships destroyed is your problem and only your problem. The fact that you can't figure out how to win the game legitimately doesn't mean you're entitled to cheat so that you don't have to lose.

If we survey players I would bet a majority would probably prefer a game that allows players to win by avoiding a direct engagement, versus one where players could just take turreted tanks and never have to do anything but 1 forwards.

Fortunately X-Wing, when played without a time limit, is not a game in which you can just take turret tanks and never have to maneuver. There are plenty of legitimate defensive strategies, and strategies that rely on out-maneuvering your opponent. The only thing that is excluded here is using a strategy that has absolutely no hope of winning the game unless you can slow play your way to the time limit and end the game before your stupid decisions cost you the game.

You are the one who brought up slow play. What if he wasn't slow playing but they got each turn done in 2 minutes. 7 turns at 2 minutes plus say 10 minutes for the turns leading up to the joust is only 24 minutes total. If the game slot was 75, or ever 45, minutes the Y-winger had plenty of time to chase the A-wings down.

And now my apologies for 4 posts in a row!

Stalling or slow play is not moving the game along. By this I mean, if a player looks at his dial for 2 mins and then places it down to move to the next dial or after moving ponders for an excessive period of time before deciding the action he takes. If the player was choosing his dials and actions at a normal pace he's within his right to avoid contact. You may upset your opponent by flying around for 45 mins staying away from the fight but it's your right within the rules.

iPeregrine, yet again someone is playing inside the rules and you are crying foul. Are you sure this is the game for you? First we have a problem following the action steps in the right order now a player is following the rules and you have a problem..........

Something to consider about the "loaded" dice: If you use them then so can your opponent. As in actually using your dice. Just like one template set can be forced on a game.

Another interesting thing I remember seeing somewhere in the last few pages. iP saying something about "tournament rules" when I didn't think he even recognizes they exist. After all, apparently time limits aren't part of the game because they only show up in the tournament rules so I guess that means anything in those rules could be thrown out.

You know, I've wasted enough of my life on this thread. Feel free to continue justifying poor sportsmanship and cling to your precious loophole in the rules. In the end, there's one simple fact you have to face: if you have to resort to stalling and slow play because you're so terrified of losing then you just suck at X-Wing. Meanwhile I'll just be thankful that most of my games are played without a time limit, so pathetic "strategies" like that are doomed to failure.

(And feel free to post more zero-substance boasting about how you "won" the internet. I know you won't be able to resist.)

The whole loaded dice thing is seriously ridiculous...

The current Tournament Rules (Version 1.5.2, updated 4/21/2014) state the following :
During tournament play, each player is required to use components included in official X-Wing products with the exception of third party maneuver templates, tokens, and range rulers, the use of which is addressed below.



I don't know why I bothered posting in this thread...

I see you're proudly continuing your tradition of inflating your post count without ever adding anything constructive to the discussion.

...he said, without a trace of irony.

I see you're proudly continuing your tradition of inflating your post count without ever adding anything constructive to the discussion.

...he said, without a trace of irony.

and I thought this thread is a community effort to create a 42 page thread, where all the relevant facts/arguments/views/opinions have been exchanged while it was still single digits. <sigh>

Well, once talk of violence over a GAME is thrown out, it's time to abandon the thread. Good job Internet. Star Wars players are not any better than any other internet users.

Well, once talk of violence over a GAME is thrown out, it's time to abandon the thread. Good job Internet. Star Wars players are not any better than any other internet users.

the mathematician in me would they are a subset.

...hmm there might be one or two players out there who aren't internet users, but at least we can be sure they won't complain here, which makes it a safe statement to make.

So now we have moved to physical threats? What happen to "players being casual"? Valid point to argue, there is no rule at "Modifying Dice" which is in line w/ other quoted "tactics" that were used to state "Cheating/Unsportsmanlike" as well.

But like with all gaming environments, I am to be forced about others opinions. The minority always suffers at the hands of aggressive bullies.

It's interpretation of the rules. And I hope those who are all hurt about those opposing this cheesy @ss excuse of legal tactic lose in a tournament by it.

But feel free to keep telling us that were are wrong in our interpretation and yours is correct. That makes for a "casual" community, let alone an inviting one.

[is going to regret this]

But can't you state that you dislike such tactics without calling into question other poster's integrity when they disagree with you? This isn't an either/or situation. As with all things related to sportsmanship and casual play, there is a lot of grey areas.

ADMIN: This thread has veered too far from constructive, game-related discourse. It is now closed.

Descriptions of physical violence against another forum member, regardless of whether or not it is of lethal force, is unacceptable.

I find it hard to believe this is something we need to state plainly, but now that it has been said, I hope those who currently engage in such talk will stop.