what's the best escort for a dual firespray list

By Hydraface, in X-Wing

Hi all! I'm switching sides, gonna be fighting for the empire! To that end, I know I want to run a dual firespray list. I was considering running k-trel with a hlc, bit am now likely to run kathy-s and a bee-eitch, (ideally, the escort's cheap and both with Gunner and engine upgrade, though I'm flexible on that). Well, that's likely what I'll go with, haven't finalised it yet. What I'm really umming and ahhing about is that tricky third ship. I'm tempted to go with a tie advanced for a few reasons (seems survivable, and it's rarely used by folkls so could be fun.) But has anyone got any advice on this? Vader makes a tempting escort choice but gosh is he expensive and would require stripping the firesprays quite a bit. Does he being enough to the table to make it worth it? Or does anyone have some top tips on how to support those two Street-lamps? Must admit to also being tempted to chuck an hlc on a shuttle and have that in toe (kinda like the theme, it's like the eempire's sent a control ship to keep an eye on the unruly bounty hunters)

Argh! Can't decide! Someone offer some advice on a dual firespray-escort!

Edited by Hydraface

B.H. with recon x 2

OGP with Vader and E.U.

B.H.'s fire at 3, strip shields and cause damage. OGP goes on 2 and strips more shields/hull and Vader adds a crit. Repeat next round.

Think about Jonus (Tie Bomber). He gives 2 re-roll with secondary weapon.

Jonus (naked)

BH + HLC

BH + Autoblaster

I have a list I've yet to try, with two Bounty Hunters.

With them, I have a single Saber with PTL, just poke and annoy, while the enemy is forced to deal with the main force of the two impending titans.

I think I'll call the list... Mosquito in the bedroom!

Third bounty hunter.

Or

Usual Soontir/Turr build.

Or

Couple of academy pilots for blocking

Boba Fett with HLC, PTL or Recon Spec and Navigator

Kath Scarlet with HLC, PTL or Recon Spec

38 Kath Scarlet

5 Autoblaster

2 Expert Handling

36 Krassis Trellix

3 Ion Cannon

16 Backstabber / Dark Curse

Edited by WonderWAAAGH

Boooo autoblaster booooo

Boooo autoblaster booooo

My only beef with Autoblaster here is that it can't be used with the auxiliary arc. That aside, I think it's one of the best ways of getting use out of Kath's pilot ability.

Hey, at least I'm not advocating a shuttle. I think we both know what kind of a liability that is. :P

Edited by WonderWAAAGH

My only beef with Autoblaster here is that it can't be used with the auxiliary arc. That aside, I think it's one of the best ways of getting use out of Kath's pilot ability...

Autoblaster, Marksmanship, Mercenary Co-Pilot? Gimme Crits! Want Moar Crits!

Or maybe just Marksmanship & Gunner?

Edited by FTS Gecko

My only beef with Autoblaster here is that it can't be used with the auxiliary arc. That aside, I think it's one of the best ways of getting use out of Kath's pilot ability...

Autoblaster, Marksmanship, Mercenary Co-Pilot? Gimme Crits! Want Moar Crits!

Or maybe just Marksmanship & Gunner?

Marksmanship Ship + Gunner is most definitely the safer option, and also works with the auxiliary arc. There are dozens of different ways to run a dual Firespray list, and I just wanted to share something novel. It's also a bit of wishful thinking on my part, because I want Autoblaster to be good, even though it's usually not.

I put this in another thread, but I've had a lot of success with this dual firespray + 1 TIE build. I'm 11-3 with it now I think.

Kath + HLC + Predator + Seismic

BH + Gunner

Academy

100 Points

While some builds have been tougher than others to face with this, I haven't found one yet that I've felt helpless against.

I realize Predator isn't out yet, so I've been proxying it on vassal mainly. If you don't want to proxy it you could use PTL instead for the same price and similar effect but I have found Predator to be superior to PTL on a firespray.

I can't ever imagine putting an Autoblaster. Not even on Kath. The synergy is interesting, but innefective.

I can't ever imagine putting an Autoblaster. Not even on Kath. The synergy is interesting, but innefective.

It is definitely situational but for 3 points and in conjunction with the crit-stress ability of the pilot it isn't terrible and not even a bad option. I might not fly two Slave-1s, though, a shuttle with the Fire Computer, Gunner, EU and Vader might be a better. And then add the 3rd "buck private" pilot nobody for that extra slot.

I can't ever imagine putting an Autoblaster. Not even on Kath. The synergy is interesting, but innefective.

It is definitely situational but for 3 points and in conjunction with the crit-stress ability of the pilot it isn't terrible and not even a bad option. I might not fly two Slave-1s, though, a shuttle with the Fire Computer, Gunner, EU and Vader might be a better. And then add the 3rd "buck private" pilot nobody for that extra slot.

TIE x2

I can't ever imagine putting an Autoblaster. Not even on Kath. The synergy is interesting, but innefective.

It is definitely situational but for 3 points and in conjunction with the crit-stress ability of the pilot it isn't terrible and not even a bad option. I might not fly two Slave-1s, though, a shuttle with the Fire Computer, Gunner, EU and Vader might be a better. And then add the 3rd "buck private" pilot nobody for that extra slot.

Autoblaster costs 5.

good for hunting down TIEphantoms and TIEdefenders

I put this in another thread, but I've had a lot of success with this dual firespray + 1 TIE build. I'm 11-3 with it now I think.

Kath + HLC + Predator + Seismic

BH + Gunner

Academy

100 Points

While some builds have been tougher than others to face with this, I haven't found one yet that I've felt helpless against.

I realize Predator isn't out yet, so I've been proxying it on vassal mainly. If you don't want to proxy it you could use PTL instead for the same price and similar effect but I have found Predator to be superior to PTL on a firespray.

Doesn't a HLC on Kath make her ability pointless until range 1?

I put this in another thread, but I've had a lot of success with this dual firespray + 1 TIE build. I'm 11-3 with it now I think.

Kath + HLC + Predator + Seismic

BH + Gunner

Academy

100 Points

While some builds have been tougher than others to face with this, I haven't found one yet that I've felt helpless against.

I realize Predator isn't out yet, so I've been proxying it on vassal mainly. If you don't want to proxy it you could use PTL instead for the same price and similar effect but I have found Predator to be superior to PTL on a firespray.

Doesn't a HLC on Kath make her ability pointless until range 1?

In that build it does. Wouldn't the HLC be better on the plain-jane BH?

Wow. I <3 this topic. Now I have to go get a 2nd Firespray.

I put this in another thread, but I've had a lot of success with this dual firespray + 1 TIE build. I'm 11-3 with it now I think.

Kath + HLC + Predator + Seismic

BH + Gunner

Academy

100 Points

While some builds have been tougher than others to face with this, I haven't found one yet that I've felt helpless against.

I realize Predator isn't out yet, so I've been proxying it on vassal mainly. If you don't want to proxy it you could use PTL instead for the same price and similar effect but I have found Predator to be superior to PTL on a firespray.

Doesn't a HLC on Kath make her ability pointless until range 1?

Not if Predator reroll the HLC dice into a crit.

two tie fighters.

True. But it just doesn't seem as reliable as just Kath + Predator. With her primary weapons I don't have to turn a crit back to a hit, then hope I can roll a crit with a blank die.

Edited by Jo Jo

I have Kath more for her high PS than her ability. I find her ability rarely comes up anyways. Unless you roll multiple crits, usually the crit is getting through already since it's the last to be cancelled. Yea I know you can do things like take mercenary copilot and/or marksmanship to get more crits, but I didn't have much luck then either.

Predator plus HLC on Kath makes her like Krassis, except two PS higher, and you can reroll two dice instead of one (but only on low PS1&2 ships).

Between HLC and Predator, Predator is more valuable, but combined they give a nice alpha strike, and unless things go poorly for Kath early I usually get at least 1 or 2 or more shots off with the HLC later in the game.

Ok, got it! I'm going to run this (please forgive the formatting, typing this on a mobile)

Krassis with HLC,

Bounty-hunter with engine upgrade and gunner

Dark curse

This way I get to try a few things. Firstly, krassis with an hlc. This always seemed powerful on paper, but the jury is truly out on how useful a hlc is on a firespray. I can imagine it requires some deft flying to keep it at the right range, but I'll try to keep K-Trel back of the field and see how this works out.

For the other BH, he's kitted out with the equipment I think will make him as reliable and easy-to-use as possible, 'cos I've never flown these things before!

Then finally, if I'm gonna be imperial, I better get used to flying ties, and having a cheap, named pilot seems like a fun idea!

Edited by Hydraface