I plan on attending the IA preview event, and after fooling around with some lists, including shuttle and 2 bombers, I think I've settled on a list. That does not mean I'm not up for suggestions for changes. I'd also love to hear some tactics I should employ with this list. Without further ado...

Buzzsaw Shuttle (OGP, Gunner, EU, *FCS) 32 pts

Scimitar, Cluster Missile 20 pts

Sabre, *PTL 24 pts

Sabre, *PTL 24 pts

Total 100 pts

Thoughts? Comments? Questions?

Also, thanks!

(*Edit to add changes determined in the thread)

Some weird choices there...

I thought a buzzsaw shuttle was Gunner + FCS... The idea being that you shoot once, opponent evades and you shoot again with the TL from FCS. Basically, drop the AS and put on FCS.

A lone Bomber is probably better served with Concussion missiles than Cluster missiles. Cluster really shines with Jonus to allow rerolling 2 dice on each attack.

Expert handling on Interceptors? That's just weird... You really scared of someone having a TL on you?

I'd go for something like this .

Maybe try dropping the Bomber, and add in Mauler Mithel, upgrade Sabers to RGP and you'll be at 99 for init.

I think Klutz has the right of it. The buzzsaw ( OGP + FCS + Gunner + Engine Upgrade ) is the better way to go as the tiny bit you lose in maneuverability is replaced by a much heavier punch in combat. PTL on the Interceptors will allow you to boost and barrel roll, if necessary. That target lock on you means nothing if you aren't in arc. Unless you have a very specific enemy in mind with your original list, I'm not sure it's quite as optimized as you might like.

Maybe I used the wrong term for the shuttle? Anyway, I was using the AS so it only takes 2 turns to come around instead of 3. But the actual Buzzsaw then is an interesting prospect. Sacrificing mobility for free TLs. Think I will make that change.

Concussions instead of Clusters is not a bad suggestion. May be just as effective as the Clusters in damage done.

I chose Expert handling more for the free Barrel Roll action, less for the shedding of TLs. I figure I can try to roll out of arcs and grab a focus to make the shooting even more effective.

Dropping the bomber, putting in Mauler, and upgrading to RGP would put me at 98, I'm already at 99. I also feel that the one extra die from Mauler in range 1 and the higher mobility might be less effective in this list than a Missile and 3 extra hulls.

Maybe I used the wrong term for the shuttle? Anyway, I was using the AS so it only takes 2 turns to come around instead of 3. But the actual Buzzsaw then is an interesting prospect. Sacrificing mobility for free TLs. Think I will make that change.

Concussions instead of Clusters is not a bad suggestion. May be just as effective as the Clusters in damage done.

I chose Expert handling more for the free Barrel Roll action, less for the shedding of TLs. I figure I can try to roll out of arcs and grab a focus to make the shooting even more effective.

Dropping the bomber, putting in Mauler, and upgrading to RGP would put me at 98, I'm already at 99. I also feel that the one extra die from Mauler in range 1 and the higher mobility might be less effective in this list than a Missile and 3 extra hulls.

Ahhhh pretty sure Expert handling doesn't grant a 'free' action, so no free barrel roll followed by focus sorry, hence why PTL is the prefered option as it will let you do that.

Maybe I used the wrong term for the shuttle? Anyway, I was using the AS so it only takes 2 turns to come around instead of 3. But the actual Buzzsaw then is an interesting prospect. Sacrificing mobility for free TLs. Think I will make that change.

Concussions instead of Clusters is not a bad suggestion. May be just as effective as the Clusters in damage done.

I chose Expert handling more for the free Barrel Roll action, less for the shedding of TLs. I figure I can try to roll out of arcs and grab a focus to make the shooting even more effective.

Dropping the bomber, putting in Mauler, and upgrading to RGP would put me at 98, I'm already at 99. I also feel that the one extra die from Mauler in range 1 and the higher mobility might be less effective in this list than a Missile and 3 extra hulls.

Expert Handling isn't a free barrel roll. It costs you your action. It just doesn't cost you a stress if you have it in your action bar.

Maybe I used the wrong term for the shuttle? Anyway, I was using the AS so it only takes 2 turns to come around instead of 3. But the actual Buzzsaw then is an interesting prospect. Sacrificing mobility for free TLs. Think I will make that change.

Concussions instead of Clusters is not a bad suggestion. May be just as effective as the Clusters in damage done.

I chose Expert handling more for the free Barrel Roll action, less for the shedding of TLs. I figure I can try to roll out of arcs and grab a focus to make the shooting even more effective.

Dropping the bomber, putting in Mauler, and upgrading to RGP would put me at 98, I'm already at 99. I also feel that the one extra die from Mauler in range 1 and the higher mobility might be less effective in this list than a Missile and 3 extra hulls.

Ahhhh pretty sure Expert handling doesn't grant a 'free' action, so no free barrel roll followed by focus sorry, hence why PTL is the prefered option as it will let you do that.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... ninja'd on my 200th post.

Bah, I read the card wrong, missing the ACTION: portion of it. Nice catch guys! I may need to free some points if I want to add PTL though.

Bah, I read the card wrong, missing the ACTION: portion of it. Nice catch guys! I may need to free some points if I want to add PTL though.

Yeah, drop the Advanced Sensors to an FCS, that gives you a point. You were at 99, so you've got two points to play with. EH -> PTL costs 1 more point. There you go.

Bah, I read the card wrong, missing the ACTION: portion of it. Nice catch guys! I may need to free some points if I want to add PTL though.

Drop the AS for FCS and drop the 2 EH on the interceptors gives you 6 points for PTL's on each coming to 100 points, problem solved

Bah and now I get ninja'ed

Excellent!. I appreciate it. Now, Cluster or Concussion? Same points, but 6 dice at 1-2 or 4 dice (one guaranteed a 'hit') at 2-3?

Excellent!. I appreciate it. Now, Cluster or Concussion? Same points, but 6 dice at 1-2 or 4 dice (one guaranteed a 'hit') at 2-3?

What do you think you'll be fighting more of? Agility 1 ships or Agility 3? Cluster is better against the former, concussion against the latter.

Honestly, I gotta scope out the meta over there. Sounds like that one will have to wait until after I do that. Thanks SG.

Honestly, I gotta scope out the meta over there. Sounds like that one will have to wait until after I do that. Thanks SG.

Anytime. I'm always happy to help out the acolytes of the lambda.

It's my favorite flying bovine. I was thinking about running 2 Buzzsaws, but was a little more confidant in squints running distraction for the Space Heffer.

Aye, an interesting list. I've seen Howlrunner and 2 PTL Sabers alongside the Buzzsaw, but never a Scimitar in place of Howlrunner, interesting...I think id fly it! The Bomber would either fly a bit under the radar, or take the brunt of some attacks. Might let you take your time, stacking TL and Focus so your missile does maximum damage. I'm a fan!

A bit off topic, but now that I think about it, with imperial aces released, if you want to drop the Bomber and replace it with Howlrunner, you can do this list:

Buzzsaw Shuttle 32pts

Howlrunner 18pts

Royal Guard Pilot + PTL 25 pts

Royal Guard Pilot + PTL 25 pts

100pts

Seems interesting enough! Surrrrrrrre you'll formation fly a bit...that is something to worry about with the RGPs. ..

I'll try to run my list sooner than the IA event and let you know how it flies.