First if all your examples are irrelevant. Purchasing a car is completely different than purchasing a game. Catan does not have special cards in each game. Do your homework.

It's not nonsense, it's common sense and basic business theory. You may not like it, but it's true - and not because I say so, but because this isn't a new concept that just magically appeared when X-Wing became a thing.

And, again, I'm not attaching any moral value to the act of trading. I don't think you're a bad person for doing it, but I think it might be disrespectful and rude to do it here.

I paid for the cards, they got their money. It's my business what I do with them.

And it's their business whether they let you post at all.

This is all assuming FFG really gives a crap in the first place.

I see your point and the financial argument you are standing on, and hey what company doesn't care about their bottom line, but the reality is that FFG has never explicitly stated that there should be no talk of trade on these boards, meaning they might not care in the slightest, meaning you really are standing up for them for no reason.

I think if FFG had an issue with it, or if they wanted to put a stop to it in general, they would issue an official statement.

Seeing as they haven't done either of these things it becomes a moot point to argue on their behalf.

Everyone has opinions. There's nothing wrong with that. WonderWAAAGH believes it is morally wrong to conduct trades here. Others agree, others disagree. I think the point that needs to be made here is that on no other occasion or topic has FFG's opinion ever come into question, and that until we hear otherwise there is no shame in posting whatever.

As per the ToU:

"You will not use the account for commercial purposes, except as expressly provided herein and/or with express written consent from FFG.

FFG reserves the right to remove or delete anything it feels is objectionable at its sole discretion without prior notice."

Found here: http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_condiciones.asp

Care to put this topic to rest now?

If person A buys two rebel transports, and person B can't afford to buy one. Person A gives person B the extra cards because he can't AFFORD to buy one, how is fantasy flight losing money? Again, how is fantasy flight losing money?

Because person B didn't buy a transport. That's a $60 net loss, and this is basic economics 101.

Person B was never going to buy a Transport. That's basic common sense 101. You don't need a degree in ****ing eco-****ing-nomics to see that.

Yes some companies do consider it to be a loss. But that's because all the people that work out all these stats sleep on pillows stuffed with money and don't understand the phrase "can't afford it"

What I have read from him and I support the premise, that FFG should not be expected to have a "trade" forum on their site that is all.

Well nobody here is pissed at FFG for not having a trade forum or is arguing that other places do it. Perhaps others have mentioned it, but the issue is just plainly posting here with a request for trade.

FFG creating their own trade section would be convenient and all, but not required.

How us it commercial business if I didn't make any money, by giving my cards away?

Well nobody here is pissed at FFG for not having a trade forum or is arguing that other places do it. Perhaps others have mentioned it, but the issue is just plainly posting here with a request for trade.

FFG creating their own trade section would be convenient and all, but not required.

Which, for the record, I have absolutely no objection to.

How us it commercial business if I didn't make any money, by giving my cards away?

Trade is commerce, and always has been. Please stop already, all you're doing by arguing semantics is proving how unfamiliar you are with the subject.

I refers to the act of trying to make money on this site. Which I did Not.

It's not nonsense, it's common sense and basic business theory. You may not like it, but it's true - and not because I say so, but because this isn't a new concept that just magically appeared when X-Wing became a thing.

And, again, I'm not attaching any moral value to the act of trading. I don't think you're a bad person for doing it, but I think it might be disrespectful and rude to do it here.

I paid for the cards, they got their money. It's my business what I do with them.

And it's their business whether they let you post at all.

This is all assuming FFG really gives a crap in the first place.

I see your point and the financial argument you are standing on, and hey what company doesn't care about their bottom line, but the reality is that FFG has never explicitly stated that there should be no talk of trade on these boards, meaning they might not care in the slightest, meaning you really are standing up for them for no reason.

I think if FFG had an issue with it, or if they wanted to put a stop to it in general, they would issue an official statement.

Seeing as they haven't done either of these things it becomes a moot point to argue on their behalf.

Everyone has opinions. There's nothing wrong with that. WonderWAAAGH believes it is morally wrong to conduct trades here. Others agree, others disagree. I think the point that needs to be made here is that on no other occasion or topic has FFG's opinion ever come into question, and that until we hear otherwise there is no shame in posting whatever.

As per the ToU:

"You will not use the account for commercial purposes, except as expressly provided herein and/or with express written consent from FFG."

Found here: http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_condiciones.asp

Care to put this topic to rest now?

I'm all for putting the topic to rest.

However you fail to notice the term 'commercial purposes'. Nobody posting here is doing so as a business for commercial gain. We're all (for all I know) consumers that are merely fans of the game.

Now, MM, CSI, TeamC coming here and advertising is what that quoted text is about, or some other business coming here and taking up their bandwidth with crap not related to XWM.

Besides, you don't have to quote ToU to prove your point. I understand what you're saying and why you feel that way.

I'm retracting this comment in the interest of civility.

Your the one who came in your high and mighty horse. How about you stop. I did nothing wrong, get over yourself.

No one is trying to make any money.

I believe your the ignorant one.

****.

There's no reason to get personal here. I think there's a severe over-abundance of anger happening for... whatever reason. I don't know. There's really no need for it.

I think your right. Too much anger.

For some reason I'm reminded of Idiocracy, where a person who sounds intelligent is always perceived as being condescending. There is no high horse here, only logic and reason. Please read the academic journal entry that I posted.

This might also help: http://i.word.com/ithesaurus/Commerce

Are you always such a jerk. I know what it means, but there was not buying or selling on my part.

I made my point you made yours just let it go. There is no point insulting ones intelligence.

You clearly don't know what it means, since you fail to see that trade is commerce. Goods still have value, even when no hard currency is being exchanged.

And why am I a jerk? Because I don't agree with you, or because I'm able to disprove your points? Which, might I add, tend more towards the emotional than the rational.

Just let it go already. By the way do you buy directly from fantasyflight? You have disproved no points. You result to insulting people's intelligence when your losing an argument.

I buy directly from my LGS. I'm begging you, please don't go where I think you're going.

Oh I am. How can you be such a hypocrite? How dare you complain about fantasy flight losing money, when you don't even buy from them directly.

The simple answer is because I'm not. Following this line of thought will make one of us look foolish, but it won't be me.

All I see in this thread is WonderWAAAGH "WAAAAAAAAAAHHHING!" Stop Crying dude...if FFG had a problem with it, they'll notify the persons or lock the thread, which they haven't done at all in past trading Threads that have been started. Grow up and stop trying to play some Advocate for FFG's Feelings. And We do have rights here....We have the Right to Post! Where the hell have you been?

I buy directly from them. It costs more, but I am supporting them. You are NOT. How dare you. I buy all Arkham Horror line, as well as Descent. How much money have I contributed to fantasy flight? I'm sure a lot more than you. Why are you the defender when you don't buy from them?

Care to go back and read this? http://i.word.com/ithesaurus/Commerce

Post removed for the sake of civility.

You still haven't answered as to why you don't buy directly?