Give it some heft [Warning: Potential Spoiler]

By Orjo Creld, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

[Warning: Potential Spoiler]

Nearing the end of Beyond the Rim, How do I make this adventure important to the galaxy? Cratala must be kept out of imperial hands. She has all the programming on disc that the Kaminoans used on the clones. And a way to install a port directly into the human brain, so essentially one can download knowledge directly into a human. In the corvette's recovery/prep room, littered with Yiyar clan bodies, Pash's triumph knocks out the electronic privacy screen surrounding the only occupant. "Jango!" Pash cries. The bounty hunter leaps up. "Rendar, you dog!" Cratala standing next to him says, "No, Boba, try to distinguish between your memories and those of your father. This man is too young to be that Rendar. "I see," Fett says. Hurrah for narrative dice!

OMG... Spoiler tags. Some of us are players in other Beyond The Rim games. :(

OMG... Spoiler tags. Some of us are players in other Beyond The Rim games. :(

Actually, that's off script enough so as to not spoil it. All you need to know is that the only "official" stats for a movie/film/book character appears in the Jewel of Yavin, and even there as a small role.

Edited by Agatheron

OMG... Spoiler tags. Some of us are players in other Beyond The Rim games. :(

Actually, that's off script enough so as to not spoil it. All you need to know is that the only "official" stats for a movie/film/book character appears in the Jewel of Yavin, and even there as a small role.

Doesn't matter. You don't give ANYTHING like that away. You should have taken this to the GM subforum and still used Spoiler Tags.

Couple things...

Firstly, the beginning of the opening sentence in the OP should have clued you in to stop reading, and back out of the thread, if you wanted to avoid "spoilers". Orjo clearly states "Nearing the end of Beyond the Rim..." How is that not adequate?

Second, to expound on Agatheron's point - further prefacing this by my having read and ran the entirety of BtR - nothing beyond Orjo's third sentence is even remotely close to anything vaguely considered a part of the written adventure. Orjo has taken the story so completely past the adventure's bounds (not a bad thing, BTW) as to make anything you may have just read completely irrelevant to what the adventure actually covers. Short of your GM reading this and swiping it, you will not see anything like this in your game. Zilch.

So to sum up, don't worry about it. Nothing here is even a spoiler. (Except perhaps for the third sentence. But I would consider that a very minor spoiler, at best since its pretty apparent early on in the chapter...).

OMG... Spoiler tags. Some of us are players in other Beyond The Rim games. :(

Actually, that's off script enough so as to not spoil it. All you need to know is that the only "official" stats for a movie/film/book character appears in the Jewel of Yavin, and even there as a small role.

No it really isn't. That seriously needs spoilers. Even knowing a character is in the adventure can spoil surprise and you never know a GM might do with a game or where players might take it anyway.

Seriously - OP, please add spoilers asap.

Edited by knasserII

Um, but I'm still not seeing any spoilers in the OP...

Um, but I'm still not seeing any spoilers in the OP...

"Cratala must be kept out of imperial hands."

Gosh. Seeing that is gonna ruin the entire adventure...

Oh, wait. It's pretty apparent out of the gate. Nevermind.

(Plus, I already identified that as being the only thing to be even remotely considered spoiler-ish already. But that it was minor at best. Certainly not worthy of a Chicken Little reaction.)

Gosh. Seeing that is gonna ruin the entire adventure...

Oh, wait. It's pretty apparent out of the gate. Nevermind.

(Plus, I already identified that as being the only thing to be even remotely considered spoiler-ish already. But that it was minor at best. Certainly not worthy of a Chicken Little reaction.)

I'm not saying I'm bothered by it, I GMed the adventure all the way through already.

But it is a spoiler none the less and there is no harm in asking people to stick (potential) Spoiler warnings on such things.

Not sure why you object this so much as it seems like an easy and nice thing to do.

<shrug> Yeah. At the end of the day, I even agree. Nice thing to do. Probably would have been best from the beginning.

My main issue was the over-the-top responses by several here. To me, a few bombastic reactions far exceed the infraction.

That's all.

Sorry, gang. I am chastened. I thought I was praising the dice system and BTR for providing the material for an epic SW game

Not going to add too much to this debate, but I'd just like to point out that players who are going through BtR might not actually know they are going through BtR. GMs might just include it in their current campaign, without telling the players "well, now we're playing through a premade scenario called BtR". So reading the first sentence might actually not be enough to let the players know that they're about to read things that they shouldn't. So I agree that these sort of topics belong in the GM section, rather than here. My 2cents. :)

Not going to add too much to this debate, but I'd just like to point out that players who are going through BtR might not actually know they are going through BtR. GMs might just include it in their current campaign, without telling the players "well, now we're playing through a premade scenario called BtR". So reading the first sentence might actually not be enough to let the players know that they're about to read things that they shouldn't. So I agree that these sort of topics belong in the GM section, rather than here. My 2cents. :)

In that case, the OP would not have been any kind of spoiler at all?

"What you don't know won't hurt you", as the ol' saying goes...

Eh, to be fair, that's a pretty non-spoiler. Character X must not fall into the hands of the Empire is really generic (and often a mission goal anyway). It's not like finding out what Rosebud was or "I am your father". . . .

In that case, the OP would not have been any kind of spoiler at all?

"What you don't know won't hurt you", as the ol' saying goes...

While I agree that the OP is not a spoiler, mentioning names from the adventure might be enough to venture into spoiler territory, depending on who is reading, of course. That's why topics like these should be put in the GM section, just to be safe. ;)

My main issue was the over-the-top responses by several here.

Just MHO, it looked to me like your reaction to the reaction was more in the "over-the-top" category. I don't think there was much of a spoiler in the OP, but I don't know why people couldn't vent a bit about it without it turning into a debate.

Not surprised you came to say that. <shrug>. Wouldn't be the first time...

But it wasn't a bit of "venting", IMHO (well, Deve did, but after that it was all-caps demands and mandates being issued from what appeared to be on high).

Not surprised you came to say that. <shrug>. Wouldn't be the first time...

?? I guess I don't keep track. I know I've "liked" several of your posts, so I certainly am not harbouring some kind of ill will towards you.

I just find it odd that you can hold up your reaction as some kind of voice-of-reason response when it was easily as confrontational, if not more so, as the post you were responding to.

Just your opinion, of course. I definitely didn't see it (or write it) that way. Again, not surprised you read hostility into my words...