Wil Wheaton

By Baphomet69, in X-Wing

I have less of a problem with him, and more of a problem with the level of nerd worship heaped upon him. He's just a guy.

That said, I did see him at Comicon one time and he kinda rubbed me the wrong way. He was wandering around the main floor checking things out and seemed really irritated when a few fans (including a good friend of mine) wanted to acknowledge him--even though they were respectful and subtle about it. If he wants to walk around in nerd ground zero, he should come to terms with the fact that people just might recognize him.

Everyone is just a guy. But He works to actively improve nerd life through the tabletop show. And that I approve of. I'm a bigger fan of writers. And Felicia Day. But I enjoy what he does with his life. He cares about games. And makes a living off of it. That is frankly awesome.

As somebody who's run cons. The guests are stormed with people ALL the time. I'm sure he was just enjoying a few moments of privacy. I'd get annoyed if I got a break and suddenly lost it. Hell, I get annoyed if I run into a friend at the store when I don't have time to talk. It fits with the whole, Just a guy thing.

I respect what he does, but I don't understand why people put him on a pedestal about it. But when those that do and have the tact NOT to swarm him, and NOT to draw attention to him, just a nod in passing or a hand shake, and he can't be bothered to return it, I lose respect. They were respectful of him, he was not respectful back.

If you can't be bothered by fans, don't be in show business. It's very simple. It comes with the territory, getting pissed off about it only shows a lack of character.

Do you seriously get annoyed at your friends for being in the wrong place at the wrong time? That's silly. Just explain that you'd love to chat, but you have somewhere to be. It's not hard.

Edited by Sekac

Interesting Sekac, but are you telling me that you never have a bad day?

That there aren't times when you just want 5 minutes peace to do what you want?

Yes he's a 'celebrity' at a sci-fi/comic/gaming con but he is also human.

You asked do I ever get annoyed at my friends for being in the wrong place at the wrong time? Well, yes.

I get p'd off at my friends and tell them to take a hike when I'm not in the mood, and they generally respect that. They know it's nothing personal and usually can see that I'm doing something else or need a break. We are still friends.

Now convert that to a hall of complete strangers who because they have seen you on telly think they know everything about you and are your friend.

Yes he could have been nicer about it, but I'm sure that after the first 30 other fans have come up to you and interupted your discussions with vendors or viewing or game play, you are going to be less than friendly.

I think this is the general curse of society these days that no-one has respect for other peoples privicy.

I HATED Wesley Crusher on STNG. But I like Will Wheaton, I like evil Will Wheaton as portrayed on Big Bang Theory even better.

Everyone hated Wesley Crusher on TNG. He was the ultimate Mary Sue, and even the producers have admitted what a mistake the character was.

I HATED Wesley Crusher on STNG. But I like Will Wheaton, I like evil Will Wheaton as portrayed on Big Bang Theory even better.

Everyone hated Wesley Crusher on TNG. He was the ultimate Mary Sue, and even the producers have admitted what a mistake the character was.

I don't know. I liked the episode where he created the mini-warp device.

Though, I despise his character in Leverage (as you're meant to) until the last episode or so.

Will Wheaton is annoying and not funny at all despite what he thinks. I still like the show. As others have said, I own many of those games thanks to that show.

Like many others, Tabletop got me interested in the game. Wheaton? I'm ok with him.

-Cal

Interesting Sekac, but are you telling me that you never have a bad day?

No. I very clearly never said that. Nor have I addressed you at all.

That there aren't times when you just want 5 minutes peace to do what you want?

Sure. I don't go to rooms packed with thousands of people for peace. Especially if those thousands of people all knew me

Yes he's a 'celebrity' at a sci-fi/comic/gaming con but he is also human.

So I can't be annoyed when humans are disrespectful?

You asked do I ever get annoyed at my friends for being in the wrong place at the wrong time? Well, yes.

No, I asked Aminar. I don't know why you read a quote with someone else's name and thought I was addressing you. Thank you for sharing though.

I get p'd off at my friends and tell them to take a hike when I'm not in the mood, and they generally respect that. They know it's nothing personal and usually can see that I'm doing something else or need a break. We are still friends.

You are grossly mishandling the situation. You can accomplish the same thing without getting pissed off and disrespectful. If you're having a bad day, don't try to make that other people's problem. I'm glad your friends put up with it, mine would too. But that doesn't make it right or justifiable.

Now convert that to a hall of complete strangers who because they have seen you on telly think they know everything about you and are your friend.

I can't speak for the entire hall. I only saw a few people. NONE of them drew attention to him. NONE tried to have a conversation. Just a respectful and knowing nod that he purposely refused to acknowledge. And an attempted handshake that he side-stepped.

Yes he could have been nicer about it, but I'm sure that after the first 30 other fans have come up to you and interupted your discussions with vendors or viewing or game play, you are going to be less than friendly.

He wasn't having any conversations, he was just moseying between booths as we all were.

I think this is the general curse of society these days that no-one has respect for other peoples privicy.

If you accept a pile of cash to go to a convention where everyone knows who you are, you are on the clock. You certainly can't expect privacy when you intentionally thrust yourself into a giant room full of people who worship you inexplicably. If you want privacy don't wade into a sea of fans.

He would be NOTHING without fans. Those fans spent a lot of money (some of which he got) to come to this convention and hope to see celebrities they adore. Spurning the very people that allow him to have the lifestyle he does, is inexcusably bad form.

I have less of a problem with him, and more of a problem with the level of nerd worship heaped upon him. He's just a guy.

That said, I did see him at Comicon one time and he kinda rubbed me the wrong way. He was wandering around the main floor checking things out and seemed really irritated when a few fans (including a good friend of mine) wanted to acknowledge him--even though they were respectful and subtle about it. If he wants to walk around in nerd ground zero, he should come to terms with the fact that people just might recognize him.

Everyone is just a guy. But He works to actively improve nerd life through the tabletop show. And that I approve of. I'm a bigger fan of writers. And Felicia Day. But I enjoy what he does with his life. He cares about games. And makes a living off of it. That is frankly awesome.

As somebody who's run cons. The guests are stormed with people ALL the time. I'm sure he was just enjoying a few moments of privacy. I'd get annoyed if I got a break and suddenly lost it. Hell, I get annoyed if I run into a friend at the store when I don't have time to talk. It fits with the whole, Just a guy thing.

I respect what he does, but I don't understand why people put him on a pedestal about it. But when those that do and have the tact NOT to swarm him, and NOT to draw attention to him, just a nod in passing or a hand shake, and he can't be bothered to return it, I lose respect. They were respectful of him, he was not respectful back.

If you can't be bothered by fans, don't be in show business. It's very simple. It comes with the territory, getting pissed off about it only shows a lack of character.

Do you seriously get annoyed at your friends for being in the wrong place at the wrong time? That's silly. Just explain that you'd love to chat, but you have somewhere to be. It's not hard.

It's actually considered rude to bug guests at conventions during periods they aren't scheduled for. I understand he's paid well to be there, but he's not paid for the weekend, he's paid for panels and things. The rest of the time he is off the clock. What he did was avoid contact with a complete stranger that could have started a virtual flash mob. He has to do that at bigger conventions or he'll clog up the entire place. Sorry to say it, but your friend while well intentioned, was just as rude to him, if in ignorance.

And in regards to your lower comment. This is a discussion forum. Quoting another person doesn't change the fact anybody can respond. You're saying everything you have to say to everyone here, they get to respond as they see fit.

I invite anyone to respond. I expect it. But saying "you asked me..." When I was clearly directing my question at someone else makes no sense.

Start a flash mob? Seriously? If someone gave him a nod of respect and he returned it, he would instantly be swarmed with people? Gimme a break. You can defend him without context all you like, but I was there. I saw several people acknowledge him discreetly so as NOT to create a scene and all he would do is immediately break eye contact and pretend to be looking at something else.

Intentional disrespect is very different from ignorance. He's given me no reason respect him as a person but about a half dozen reasons not to. So I don't.

A nod is often times followed with conversaion, which opens the floodgates. Trust me, your friend might not have done so, but one of that multitude would have, especially with the lack of social skills present in a percentage of the geek community. Once one person walks up and asks for an autograph because he responded to their nod, he's stuck for an hour or more. It's easier to just avoid contact. It's a chain reaction.

My most humble of appologies Sekac.

In future I shall no longer respond to anything you post on a discussion forum (save to post this of course) for fear that I might have some how blundered into a personal discussion that probably should have taken place via PM to prevent global confussion.

It is obvious now that a question like 'how would you react' posted on an open forum but linked vaguely to a previous post, was intended intirely for that said post and not for anyone else to respond to. My bad.

As for the rest of your response, which goes on to attack me personally for getting p'd off at my friends, well the first thing I should probably point out is that you don't know me. So to help you, let me explain a little about myself, so that in future you can better judge me. :)

Not everyone in the world has the same sunny disposition as yourself. I know. It was a shock to me when I met people who weren't d-words (sounds like ricks but is too rude for Net-nanny) for the first time too.

I for one am a pesimist. I never look on the bright side of anything and am generally known by my friends as being a dour, sarcastic, d-word (see I was referring to myself as being a d-word not you - to save confussion).

And yet somehow I still have friends. Go figure.

I will tell you (not necessarily you, as in this case I am referring to the general populus and not a specific individual, for that I would have used PM as mentioned above - to save confussion) politely but in no uncertain terms where to go if you bother me.

As I feel myself to be both quite well educated and in posession of a very high level of sarcasm, this can often lead to it being a quite polite, if somewhat confussing, way of telling you to p-off. You really have to look into my eyes to get the full jist on some occassions.

I can usually convey my exact feelings to people with just a glance, which is unfortunate right now, as I am using an web-cam less pc or you too would understand just how upset I am that you reacted so badly to my previous post.

It truely makes me tearie.

Finally I think I should point out that you have proven, in the two last statements on your response to my previous post, my exact point about society and its views on celebrity & privicy.

If you are deemed a celebrity and get paid to appear on stage or in a booth or handing out flyers at the door (in other words your set work environment), do you really give up all rights to take have any down time out with your hotel room, which no doubt some groupie is bound to have followed you to, and then posted its location on Twitter for the world to know, so at all hours of the day and night some socially inept 20 something will be banging on?

You are not allowed to look at the rest of the show without being bothered by every man, woman and child who feel they have a right to your autograph, put their arms around you for a selfie, discuss what happened in series 3 episode 17 when the thing did that thingy, with the other thingy, all because they paid $250 just to see you, nothing else in the 20 hall, 4,000 booth, 3 day convention.

Yes you can be polite and say 'is that the time? I really must be going' but if someone walked up to you and said that as you opened your mouth would you truely feel less insulted? Or would you still think "Wil Wheaton is such a **** (I'll leave this as **** as it get's over the same point) ".

Edited by Arden Fell

For the record, I only dislike Wesley Crusher. Being a smart, mature and reasonable human being I know that Wil Wheaton is not Wesley Crusher.

All I know about him, the real him, is what Millennium Falsehood posted here......

He just seems like a really nice person to me because of his demeanor.

...and I agree that he seems to be a decent person and I will add he comes across as someone who has his head on straight. Unlike other "nerds" who seem to justify other peoples ridicule of them by their immaturity and/or lack of any social skills.

There are comments on this forum which, if I was Mr Wheaton and I read them, I would feel like disappearing to a tropical island and never seeing any "fans" again. But that is because I'm a grumpy sod who doesn't want to waste his time with those who think they own me and feel they can dictate how I should spend my time, who I should spend my time with, and what mood I should be in at any given time. I'd rather spend my time with people who treat me with respect, respect my personal space and don't treat me like I was their property.

I kissed Felicia Day.... just saying

I kissed Felicia Day.... just saying

No one likes a show off.

I kissed Felicia Day.... just saying

Was that before or after the restraining order :-P

If you are deemed a celebrity and get paid to appear on stage or in a booth or handing out flyers at the door (in other words your set work environment), do you really give up all rights to take have any down time out with your hotel room, which no doubt some groupie is bound to have followed you to, and then posted its location on Twitter for the world to know, so at all hours of the day and night some socially inept 20 something will be banging on?

You are not allowed to look at the rest of the show without being bothered by every man, woman and child who feel they have a right to your autograph, put their arms around you for a selfie, discuss what happened in series 3 episode 17 when the thing did that thingy, with the other thingy, all because they paid $250 just to see you, nothing else in the 20 hall, 4,000 booth, 3 day convention.

Yep. That's totally what happened. Did I accidentally say "nod" like 6 different times again? Glad you saw what I actually meant.

It was that episode of Tabletop that convinced me that not only would I like this game, but so would the other people in my regular group of boardgame players.

If you don't know the game, you don't know they're flubbing on some rules but even then, so what? The show is about different boardgames and the fun you have, which is the most important part of any game.

You hate to be 'that guy'? Then don't be, your choice. :) .

Off-topic.... Tabletop introduced me to King of Tokyo, which is a hell of a lot of fun.