X-Wing Tattoo!

By Lunatic Pathos, in X-Wing

I love the tat, though I must agree the x-wing is a little off. Im a space craft nut so I will admit that Im more picky than most and doubt most people would notice.

As for getting an imperial logo I can't see how anyone could have a problem with it.

It's FICTION

Fiction is a form of art. The meaning of art is to evoke emotion. The actions of The Empire evoke emotions and reactions such as being repulsed, abhorred. What they'd done in their history resonates with us and recalls WWII imagery as George Lucas intended.

Some of us are more sensitive to this concept to others. These people, such as myself, are hit harder by fiction, as they make us feel something.

So for people like us, to wear The Imperial Insignia is to say, "I am not only a xenophobe, but will absolutely willingly serve a power greater than I with no question, no matter what they ask me to do, even if that is burning a village."

Some of us do not want to be associated with the visage of totalitarianism and genocide.

That is why some of us, opt to not wear the insignia.

Try getting acquainted with American history, you might be surprised to find it's not such a glorious tale.

"Genocide? Yes please and twice for lunch!" -Andrew Jackson.

Guess I fail to see the correlation between the Imperials and Nazis. If there were, wouldn't you think we'd have a flood of Neo Nazis using that symbol for their own? When I waited in line for episode 1 I saw allot of people in costume - but no skin heads.

while the art itself is nice, I personally think it's a bit overkill for a fictional universe.

and when you start with one, where does it end?

a star trek federation logo, perhaps a klingon one, the one ring tattooed on the ring finger, the Dragon's fang and/or flame of tar valon, perhaps the direwolf sigil of Winterfell.... :) (probably forgot some)

of course the sub-selection depends on which sides your on ;)

Lightening bolt on forehead (that might be too Nazi-Esk for some). <ducks for inbound comments>

Edited by swimmingordy

I thought the Imperials were British?

Their accents are British.

They're an Empire.

They try to impose their rule on everyone else like they own the place.

I'm sure I read somewhere that the whole Empire/Rebels thing was inspired by the American war of Independence from the British Empire. Could be a load of rubbish, but if true that doesn't upset me...a Brit...at all. As for the OP's tattoo, it is a science FICTION symbol for a FICTIONAL rebellion against a FICTIONAL Empre. Not an anti-British symbol. Would I be offended by an Empire tattoo? No way! It is a science FICTION symbol for a FICTIONAL Empire.

IT IS FICTION

It's not like the Emperor had a little mustache and was saluted by his troops with an outstretched arm.

Edited by AgentShadow

Although that is comparative imagery I think even James Cameron couldn't ignore if it were true. Hail Sideous sounds weird.

I love the tat, though I must agree the x-wing is a little off. Im a space craft nut so I will admit that Im more picky than most and doubt most people would notice.As for getting an imperial logo I can't see how anyone could have a problem with it.It's FICTION

Fiction is a form of art. The meaning of art is to evoke emotion. The actions of The Empire evoke emotions and reactions such as being repulsed, abhorred. What they'd done in their history resonates with us and recalls WWII imagery as George Lucas intended.Some of us are more sensitive to this concept to others. These people, such as myself, are hit harder by fiction, as they make us feel something.So for people like us, to wear The Imperial Insignia is to say, "I am not only a xenophobe, but will absolutely willingly serve a power greater than I with no question, no matter what they ask me to do, even if that is burning a village."Some of us do not want to be associated with the visage of totalitarianism and genocide.That is why some of us, opt to not wear the insignia.

The meaning of art is to entertain and to distract us from the drudgery of reality, if you see it as a reminder of the horrors that humanity inflicts upon itself then that is your choice.

Each to their own.

Back on topic, mr OP, your tat has most definitely given me ideas for a tat of my own, for me its B-wings though, perhaps an X escorting them.

**** I love my B-wings

while the art itself is nice, I personally think it's a bit overkill for a fictional universe.

and when you start with one, where does it end?

a star trek federation logo, perhaps a klingon one, the one ring tattooed on the ring finger, the Dragon's fang and/or flame of tar valon, perhaps the direwolf sigil of Winterfell.... :) (probably forgot some)

of course the sub-selection depends on which sides your on ;)

But I don't want any more franchise related ones. Just this one. Why? Because SW means more to me than just some fiction franchise I like. It is formative in my nature. It evokes adventurousness, courage, heroism, and willingness to stand up against tyranny. Luke's x-wing in particular (the astromech is r2 colors) evokes luke: compassion, ultimately the decision of non-violence. The tat means those things to me. A Klingon empire tat would evoke nothing for me so i wouldn't get it. If it is evocative for someone else, great.

This also ties in to why I wouldn't want the symbol of an oppressive regime, fictional or otherwise, on me. However, these are purely personal reasons. That is why I would or would not get a tattoo. I would not assume that someone else's imperial logo means anything.

Also my wife and I share a love of SW for many of those same reasons. She's getting a rebel logo of some sort. I'll post it when she eventually does.

If someone wants to get a bunch of franchise stuff because they find it all meaningful that's great. If they just think it's cool, I might advise them to ponder whether they will always think it's cool. I might not have got a SW tattoo if the franchise hadn't been around so long and my love for it hadn't been tested by some pretty awful material.

Edited by LunaticPathos

while the art itself is nice, I personally think it's a bit overkill for a fictional universe.

and when you start with one, where does it end?

a star trek federation logo, perhaps a klingon one, the one ring tattooed on the ring finger, the Dragon's fang and/or flame of tar valon, perhaps the direwolf sigil of Winterfell.... :) (probably forgot some)

of course the sub-selection depends on which sides your on ;)

It seems a bit silly to make a slippery slope argument about a tattoo. Start and stop wherever you please. If someone wants skill those tattoos, there's nothing wrong with that.

But I don't want any more franchise related site. Just this one. Why? Because SW means more to me than just some fiction franchise I like. It is formative in my nature. It evokes adventurousness, courage, heroism, and willingness to stand up against tyranny. The tat means those things to me. A Klingon empire tat would evoke nothing for me so i wouldn't get it. If it is evocative for someone else, great.

This also ties in to why I wouldn't want the symbol of an oppressive regime, fictional or otherwise, on me. However, these are purely personal reasons. That is why I would or would not get a tattoo. I would not assume that someone else's imperial loco means anything.

you can make a slippery slope argument out of almost anything ;)

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otherwise, fair enough it's a personal choice, if it has personal meaning, why not

just not my thing :)

Yeah, I totally get that. I also have a dragon tattoo I designed, but it isn't related to any particular franchise, and it's wrapped around my arm to eat it's own tail, so it also has whatever meaning you ascribe to oroborous.

In response to other comment:

I love the tat, though I must agree the x-wing is a little off. Im a space craft nut so I will admit that Im more picky than most and doubt most people would notice.As for getting an imperial logo I can't see how anyone could have a problem with it.It's FICTION

Fiction is a form of art. The meaning of art is to evoke emotion. The actions of The Empire evoke emotions and reactions such as being repulsed, abhorred. What they'd done in their history resonates with us and recalls WWII imagery as George Lucas intended.Some of us are more sensitive to this concept to others. These people, such as myself, are hit harder by fiction, as they make us feel something.So for people like us, to wear The Imperial Insignia is to say, "I am not only a xenophobe, but will absolutely willingly serve a power greater than I with no question, no matter what they ask me to do, even if that is burning a village."Some of us do not want to be associated with the visage of totalitarianism and genocide.That is why some of us, opt to not wear the insignia.

The meaning of art is to entertain and to distract us from the drudgery of reality, if you see it as a reminder of the horrors that humanity inflicts upon itself then that is your choice.

Each to their own.

I disagree that that is the purpose of art in general, though my definition would include yours. Art's job is to evoke. Thought, feelings, whatever. Escape is also a valid thing to evoke, though, and if that's what you take away, great.

To each their own, indeed.

I love the tat, though I must agree the x-wing is a little off. Im a space craft nut so I will admit that Im more picky than most and doubt most people would notice.

As for getting an imperial logo I can't see how anyone could have a problem with it.

It's FICTION

Fiction is a form of art. The meaning of art is to evoke emotion. The actions of The Empire evoke emotions and reactions such as being repulsed, abhorred. What they'd done in their history resonates with us and recalls WWII imagery as George Lucas intended.

Some of us are more sensitive to this concept to others. These people, such as myself, are hit harder by fiction, as they make us feel something.

So for people like us, to wear The Imperial Insignia is to say, "I am not only a xenophobe, but will absolutely willingly serve a power greater than I with no question, no matter what they ask me to do, even if that is burning a village."

Some of us do not want to be associated with the visage of totalitarianism and genocide.

That is why some of us, opt to not wear the insignia.

Try getting acquainted with American history, you might be surprised to find it's not such a glorious tale.

Who mentioned anything about the USA? I don't have a US flag tattoo.

I agree with the poster you quoted. That doesn't mean I would ascribe the same motive to someone else getting an imperial tattoo though. It's purely personal and interpretable precisely because it's fiction. On the other hand, your statement about the US is precisely why I prefer a fictional symbol. It is less loaded with conflicting ideas. The rebel insignia carries a lot of hope without the baggage of real history. A US flag, for me, and again I wouldn't venture to say what it means to someone else who gets one, would carry a lot of good ideology right alongside a lot of problematic history. It means too much, positive and negative.