Please don't hate me. I know there has been a long, long, long, long, long, long discussion about Star Destroyers. There has also been a topic about possible Empire ships that won't break the game or be super shrunk. But I just can't help wondering if we might see one based on this...

...picture on FFG's latest transport announcement. Go on, take a good look at what you can see of the Star Destroyer. Image how the rest of it would look in comparison to the transport. I can't help feeling that if scaled such, or a little bigger, I'd have no problem seeing and fielding one. In fact, at that size I might have more than one.

If you feel anger towards me right now I suggest you go away. I'd like this to be a civil and friendly discussion.

Let me just cast my vote on this, if FFG releases a Star Destroyer for this game, I will turn my whole house into a tabletop for it. I would like to see a form of play called massive play, which takes up entire gymnasiums and take all weekend to play. I'd buy a whole fleet of them.

Really, the size isn't even the main issue I have with the idea. It's more the sheer difference in the magnitude of firepower. Hell, a Star Destroyer is supposed to carry 4+ 100pt lists of starfighters internally, not to mention it's own weapons. If you bring it down to be balanced in the game, it's no longer a Star Destroyer as far as I'm concerned. I love Star Wars, and I love the iconicness of the Star Destroyer, and I don't want that iconicness compromised just to shoehorn it into the game.

Additionally, when you are comparing the X-Wing to the SD in that image, keep in mind (again), that it's probably hundreds of meters closer (at least) than the Star Destroyer, so it's not going to provide a very useful comparison. It's like holding a goldfish in front of your face and saying, "see, it looks about the same size as that dolphin 50 feet away, that seems legit.

Meh, I don't think getting a pretty 13" Star Destroyer mini is worth contorting the game over personally. That's the only reason I can see for wanting FFG to produce one.

Huge Ships are supposed to be set dressing that shoots back, honestly. A Star Destroyer is overkill, and there are plenty of other smaller imperial vessels that can do what the CR90 will do without breaking the sense of scale FFG has going on. I won't miss any degree of Star Destroyer, but it would be nice to see something like a Lancer or a Carrack, or one of those Imperial patrol vessels. I wouldn't be surprised if a Gozanti was in the future either based on the TIE-carrying variant we see in Rebels.

Well I guess you need to drop 200k on a ship that is the size of a house

I have an idea just put a sticker on your car that says ISD and play x-wing in the street.

when you are comparing the X-Wing to the SD in that image, keep in mind (again), that it's probably hundreds of meters closer (at least) than the Star Destroyer

I know. I'll try to explain again...

I saw the picture and just thought if that Star Destroyer was REALLY THAT SIZE COMPARED TO AN X-WING ASSUMING THEY WERE BOTH NEXT TO EACH OTHER then I wouldn't mind that as a miniature. Then I posted a topic for those who have imaginations and "want a Star Destroyer".

I repeat: using imagination and forgetting about the fact they're really miles away from each other, would a model scaled like that compared to the x-wings be welcomed by those who want to see one.

At the same scale as the standard ships, an Imperial II destroyer is almost 5 feet long.

If they used the same relative as the new GR-75, it would be about 4.5x as long as the transport.

I would like to see turret rules or maps for Epic play that use destroyer mechanics. A 3x6 game mat and terrain/turrets for a destroyer would be cool.

I think it is closer to 17 feet long.

if you do not want a Star Destoryer why would you read a post titled "for those of us that want a Star Destoryer" if you do NOT want a Star Destoryer?

if you do not want a Star Destoryer why would you read a post titled "for those of us that want a Star Destoryer" if you do NOT want a Star Destoryer?

Because they're too important for something as "common" as sense. It's my own fault, I should have typed "imagination is required" in the title.

I thought about the Carrack, but even that thing is 300m long. The CR90 is 150m long.

Reasons why I play this game:

1) I love Star Wars and I will support anything that faithfully replicates the movies into game format

2) I love tabletop war games

3) the dog fight mechanic is awesome

4) stuff is all in the same scale or "cinematic" scale.

Please understand how funny this will look.

An ISD is 1600m

The CR90 is 150m

If the CR90 is 13inches long, at the same scale, the ISD will be 139 inches long. Thats almost 12 feet. While that might be awesome, who will have the space to play with that? How do you expect to get that to the store? And think about the cost.

Ok, make it twice the size of the CR90. Fine, it will look like a cool little ISD, but it will look stupid next to everthing else. Its so comically out of scale.

If it's at least 2 feet long, I have no problems with the ISD.

when you are comparing the X-Wing to the SD in that image, keep in mind (again), that it's probably hundreds of meters closer (at least) than the Star Destroyer

I know. I'll try to explain again...

I saw the picture and just thought if that Star Destroyer was REALLY THAT SIZE COMPARED TO AN X-WING ASSUMING THEY WERE BOTH NEXT TO EACH OTHER then I wouldn't mind that as a miniature. Then I posted a topic for those who have imaginations and "want a Star Destroyer".

I repeat: using imagination and forgetting about the fact they're really miles away from each other, would a model scaled like that compared to the x-wings be welcomed by those who want to see one.

My mistake. If that's what you want though, there's dozens of scale Star Destroyer models you can get, build, and put on your shelf. But at that size, given the contortions needed to balance it in-game, it has no place in X-Wing miniatures.

I guess I feel like you haven't addressed the balance or scaling ( in terms of weaponry, not size) concerns at all, so it just sounds like you simply want a cool scale model. Which already exists in a multitude of scales and forms. You could probably even pay someone to build and paint it for what FFG would have to charge for something similar. Everyone wins. You get the model, and the game stays SD free.

If you want to imagine stuff, why use accurate scale model ships? Just get tokens and buttons. Say this milk container is a Star Destroyer. These blueberries are Tie fighters and this watermelon is a deathstar.

I came to this thread because i was hoping for an innovative idea on how to use ISD in the game that would respect its size and power. What I found was "hurdurr make it smaller and pretend mkay? Dont like it? You hate Star Wars!"

Because they're too important for something as "common" as sense. It's my own fault, I should have typed "imagination is required" in the title.

Nice ad hominem there... Apparently not only do we hate Star Wars, we lack common sense and imagination if we disagree with you.

Gee I wonder why topics like this get heated when people start throwing attacks like that around.

I never meant for my previous post to be taken seriously

If it's at least 2 feet long, I have no problems with the ISD.

That's fine but a lot of us do have problems with that, and then we're stuck with a Imperial Epic ship that we don't want.

I never meant for my previous post to be taken seriously

I missed that.

Another reason that people who are against the idea are likely to post here is that on the off chance someone with influence on the game reads this stuff, I'd rather not have them see a thread full of "AWESOME IDEA!!!1!" replies to the concept of a Star Destroyer in game, and have the risk of one actually happening. I don't think it's very likely, but I don't think there should just be a happyfuntime echo chamber for ideas like this.

Geez guys, why do ISD's things always have to get nasty? Some people want it and think it COULD happen. Some people don't and think it SHOULDN'T happen. Then everyone starts talking like they WILL or they WON'T and treating the other side like they are idiots. Chill out and stop acting like the other side are idiots (whatever side your on) just because they don't look for the same things in the game.

Because they're too important for something as "common" as sense. It's my own fault, I should have typed "imagination is required" in the title.

Nice ad hominem there... Apparently not only do we hate Star Wars, we lack common sense and imagination if we disagree with you.

Gee I wonder why topics like this get heated when people start throwing attacks like that around.

It's more to do with out of context quotes I think.

Why would you comment on a topic for those who want star destroyers if you don't want star destroyers? My answer, lack of common sense.

Why do people cross when there's nearly a dozen signs that say "do not cross"? My answer, lack of common sense.

Come to think about it, why am I even bothering to answer these?

2. I said Star Destroyer. Not Super Star Destroyer.

The Executor Super Star Destroyer was 19,000M in RotJ. At 1/400th that's ~47.5M or ~155' 10" That would almost, but not quite, fit inside the FFG Games Center along the long wall.

No one is confusing the two other than you.

I wouldn't read too much into there being a Star Destroyer in the picture. The scenario in the box is the escape from Hoth. Which that is a painting of. It's the one iconic moment the transport has in any of the films, so it makes sense they'd use an image from it. Doesn't mean they're teasing a Star Destroyer, no more than the Death Star in the background on the TIE Defender package means they're teasing that.

Another reason that people who are against the idea are likely to post here is that on the off chance someone with influence on the game reads this stuff, I'd rather not have them see a thread full of "AWESOME IDEA!!!1!" replies to the concept of a Star Destroyer in game, and have the risk of one actually happening. I don't think it's very likely, but I don't think there should just be a happyfuntime echo chamber for ideas like this.

That makes sense

If it's at least 2 feet long, I have no problems with the ISD.

That's fine but a lot of us do have problems with that, and then we're stuck with a Imperial Epic ship that we don't want.

I fell like we've done this before but to each their own. I just don't believe there are "limited slots" for ship creation. If the big ships are successful, I don't see why they would limit themselves to only ever making and ISD for the Imperials in addition to some of the other great stuff out there.

Why would you comment on a topic for those who want star destroyers if you don't want star destroyers?

Because I don't want FFG making one, and then having to deal with the issues one creates.

My answer, lack of common sense.

Or we could go with more personal attacks...