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Look all the bickering aside, the point was don't anyone get it in their heads that 3 small ship rebel or e-wing squads or w/e are going to be running gangbusters cause they won 12 person tournaments. Great for the person that one, but understand that it's kind of a stretch to really call it a "regional" in terms of how it represents the meta. Again, I did finish top 8 at a regional bigger than both of these events combined, and my other two friends since high school that I constantly play with and went along to the tourney finished top 4 and champion respectively, and had to beat a top 16 2013 world's player to do it. I/we have some understanding to back this up. I'm sorry if I hurt Chile's feelings.

I have no dog in this fight, I am just asking you to stop! At least in this thread, start a new topic with your thoughts about how the meta is going.

Posted at 2014-07-16 14:01:51+00:00

Look all the bickering aside, the point was don't anyone get it in their heads that 3 small ship rebel or e-wing squads or w/e are going to be running gangbusters cause they won 12 person tournaments. Great for the person that one, but understand that it's kind of a stretch to really call it a "regional" in terms of how it represents the meta. Again, I did finish top 8 at a regional bigger than both of these events combined, and my other two friends since high school that I constantly play with and went along to the tourney finished top 4 and champion respectively, and had to beat a top 16 2013 world's player to do it. I/we have some understanding to back this up. I'm sorry if I hurt Chile's feelings.

A couple of points.

1) you are coming off like an ass. Stop while you are ahead.

2) Its a dice game. No matter how amazing you think you are, the game comes down to luck. You need to roll hits to win, anyone can loose with a bad string of dice.

3) Meta's are local and are dependent on a lot of different things like cultural mentality, how many people follow everything said on forums like sheep, availability of product.

Seriously undermining someone's achievement because of a lower turn out shows you have no class. Time to grow up.

Posted at 2014-07-16 14:45:56+00:00

Look all the bickering aside, the point was don't anyone get it in their heads that 3 small ship rebel or e-wing squads or w/e are going to be running gangbusters cause they won 12 person tournaments. Great for the person that one, but understand that it's kind of a stretch to really call it a "regional" in terms of how it represents the meta. Again, I did finish top 8 at a regional bigger than both of these events combined, and my other two friends since high school that I constantly play with and went along to the tourney finished top 4 and champion respectively, and had to beat a top 16 2013 world's player to do it. I/we have some understanding to back this up. I'm sorry if I hurt Chile's feelings.

A couple of points.

1) you are coming off like an ass. Stop while you are ahead.

2) Its a dice game. No matter how amazing you think you are, the game comes down to luck. You need to roll hits to win, anyone can loose with a bad string of dice.

3) Meta's are local and are dependent on a lot of different things like cultural mentality, how many people follow everything said on forums like sheep, availability of product.

Seriously undermining someone's achievement because of a lower turn out shows you have no class. Time to grow up.

Zoccola, I would also ask you to stop as well. MajorJuggler has put in so much work into giving us this information I would hate to see it get locked. By calling names and getting into a pissing match it only helps flame a dangerous situation. If this thread gets locked we all lose.

Posted at 2014-07-16 15:04:07+00:00

Look all the bickering aside, the point was don't anyone get it in their heads that 3 small ship rebel or e-wing squads or w/e are going to be running gangbusters cause they won 12 person tournaments. Great for the person that one, but understand that it's kind of a stretch to really call it a "regional" in terms of how it represents the meta. Again, I did finish top 8 at a regional bigger than both of these events combined, and my other two friends since high school that I constantly play with and went along to the tourney finished top 4 and champion respectively, and had to beat a top 16 2013 world's player to do it. I/we have some understanding to back this up. I'm sorry if I hurt Chile's feelings.

Why don't you create a thread for this instead if you think this must be somewhat discussed or brought to people's attention ? Wouldn't it be way more constructive ?

Edited July 16, 2014 by DreadStar

Posted at 2014-07-16 15:22:43+00:00

Look all the bickering aside, the point was don't anyone get it in their heads that 3 small ship rebel or e-wing squads or w/e are going to be running gangbusters cause they won 12 person tournaments. Great for the person that one, but understand that it's kind of a stretch to really call it a "regional" in terms of how it represents the meta. Again, I did finish top 8 at a regional bigger than both of these events combined, and my other two friends since high school that I constantly play with and went along to the tourney finished top 4 and champion respectively, and had to beat a top 16 2013 world's player to do it. I/we have some understanding to back this up. I'm sorry if I hurt Chile's feelings.

Why don't you create a thread for this instead if you think this must be somewhat discussed or brought to people's attention ? Wouldn't it be way more constructive ?

As well intended as your post is, Bobby has stop responding to the situation. He has shown respect to MajorJuggler's thread. We all need to just let this die.

So to everyone, Lets talk about the upcoming Regionals this weekend. We have the Plano TX regional this weekend and we could see SableGryphon show up again as he's been quite lately.

Posted at 2014-07-16 16:54:22+00:00

This thread is a very valuable resource to the community and is easily on track to become the 2nd most-viewed topic all time on these forums before the 2014 Regionals season ends. So yes, lets please all keep it civil and relevant to Regionals Results!

Fly Casual

I have the top 16 results from the Nuernburg Regional via email. They had 6 rounds of Swiss 60 minutes each, and did NOT have a Final Cut to elimination rounds. That is unfortunate since it could have really helped sort out which squads and players would have risen to the top. Here are the results.

Nuernberg, Germany
July 12, 2014
Ultra Comix GmbH
wave 4 legal. Tantive IV (C3-P0) not available and not legal.
info: https://www.facebook.com/events/611351872283678/?ref=5
info: http://forum.hds-fantasy.de/viewtopic.php?f=315&t=16829
info: http://moseisleyraumhafen.forumieren.com/t2220-regional-sud-2014-ultra-comix-nurnberg
info: http://moseisleyraumhafen.forumieren.com/t2535-liveticker-spielberichte-regional-sud-2014
Attendance: 45
Final Cut: 6 rounds of Swiss, no Final Cut

Winner: Soontir Fel + Push the Limit; Howlrunner; 4x Obsidian Sq. Pilot
#2: Echo + Veteran Instincts + Sensor Jammer + Advanced Cloaking Device; Scimitar Squadron + Assault Missiles + Seismic Charges + Munitions Failsafe; 3x Academy Pilot
#3: Han Solo + Veteran Instincts + Millennium Falcon + Engine Upgrade + Chewbacca + Gunner; 3x Tala Sq. Pilot
#4: Echo + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Sensors + Intelligence Agent; 5x Academy Pilot
#5: Turr Phennirr + Veteran Instincts; Howlrunner; Mauler Mithel; 3x Obsidian Sq. Pilot
#6: 3x Bounty Hunter
#7: Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device; Echo + Advanced Cloaking Device + Recon Specialist + Veteran Instincts; 2x Academy Pilot
#8: Wedge Antilles + Swarm Tactics; Biggs Darklighter; Tarn Mison; Rookie Pilot
#9: 4x Scimitar Sq. Pilot; Onyx Sq. Pilot
#10: Wedge Antilles + Outmaneuver + R2; 2x Bandit Sq. Pilot; Blue Sq. Pilot; Rookie Pilot
#11: Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device; Echo + Veteran Instincts + Recon Specialist + Advanced Cloaking Device; Royal Guard Pilot + Push the Limit
#12: Whisper + Advanced Cloaking Device + Tactician + Swarm Tactics; 2x Sigma + Advanced Cloaking Device + Intelligence Agent
#13: Whisper + Navigator + Advanced Cloaking Device + Veteran Instincts; Howlrunner; 3x Obsidian Sq. Pilots
#14: Whisper + Fire Control System + Advanced Cloaking Device + Veteran Instincts; Royal Guard Pilot + Push the Limit; Bounty Hunter + Recon Specialist
#15: Luke Skywalker + Veteran Instincts; Roark Garnet + Blaster Turret + Moldy Crow; Rookie Pilot; 2x Bandit Sq. Pilot
#16: Luke Skywalker + Veteran Instincts + R2-D2; Wedge Antilles + Predator + Flechette Torpedo; Wes Janson + Predator + R3A2

Posted at 2014-07-16 17:13:53+00:00

Attendance: 45

Final Cut: 6 rounds of Swiss, no Final Cut

Winner: Soontir Fel + Push the Limit; Howlrunner; 4x Obsidian Sq. Pilot

#2: Echo + Veteran Instincts + Sensor Jammer + Advanced Cloaking Device; Scimitar Squadron + Assault Missiles + Seismic Charges + Munitions Failsafe; 3x Academy Pilot

#3: Han Solo + Veteran Instincts + Millennium Falcon + Engine Upgrade + Chewbacca + Gunner; 3x Tala Sq. Pilot

#4: Echo + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Sensors + Intelligence Agent; 5x Academy Pilot

#5: Turr Phennirr + Veteran Instincts; Howlrunner; Mauler Mithel; 3x Obsidian Sq. Pilot

#6: 3x Bounty Hunter

#7: Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device; Echo + Advanced Cloaking Device + Recon Specialist + Veteran Instincts; 2x Academy Pilot

#8: Wedge Antilles + Swarm Tactics; Biggs Darklighter; Tarn Mison; Rookie Pilot

#9: 4x Scimitar Sq. Pilot; Onyx Sq. Pilot

#10: Wedge Antilles + Outmaneuver + R2; 2x Bandit Sq. Pilot; Blue Sq. Pilot; Rookie Pilot

#11: Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device; Echo + Veteran Instincts + Recon Specialist + Advanced Cloaking Device; Royal Guard Pilot + Push the Limit

#12: Whisper + Advanced Cloaking Device + Tactician + Swarm Tactics; 2x Sigma + Advanced Cloaking Device + Intelligence Agent

#13: Whisper + Navigator + Advanced Cloaking Device + Veteran Instincts; Howlrunner; 3x Obsidian Sq. Pilots

#14: Whisper + Fire Control System + Advanced Cloaking Device + Veteran Instincts; Royal Guard Pilot + Push the Limit; Bounty Hunter + Recon Specialist

#15: Luke Skywalker + Veteran Instincts; Roark Garnet + Blaster Turret + Moldy Crow; Rookie Pilot; 2x Bandit Sq. Pilot

#16: Luke Skywalker + Veteran Instincts + R2-D2; Wedge Antilles + Predator + Flechette Torpedo; Wes Janson + Predator + R3A2

wow, Talk about a list of squads that lets the Phantom rule. 7 of the 16 list featured the Phantom while only two 360 Turret ships made the top 16. There seems to be not much resistance to the Phantom in this event . I would love to see a break down of all the squads that were played that day. It would seem very few YT-1300 were played. 5 of the top were list that the #3 list could have done well against. what a truly disappointing decision they made to not play the championships rounds.

Posted at 2014-07-16 17:32:45+00:00

Sadly even in the german nationals we won't see any cut :/

So yeah a very poor & disappointing decision.

Edited July 16, 2014 by Nickos13

Posted at 2014-07-16 18:03:44+00:00

Attendance: 45

Final Cut: 6 rounds of Swiss, no Final Cut

Winner: Soontir Fel + Push the Limit; Howlrunner; 4x Obsidian Sq. Pilot

#2: Echo + Veteran Instincts + Sensor Jammer + Advanced Cloaking Device; Scimitar Squadron + Assault Missiles + Seismic Charges + Munitions Failsafe; 3x Academy Pilot

#3: Han Solo + Veteran Instincts + Millennium Falcon + Engine Upgrade + Chewbacca + Gunner; 3x Tala Sq. Pilot

#4: Echo + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Sensors + Intelligence Agent; 5x Academy Pilot

#5: Turr Phennirr + Veteran Instincts; Howlrunner; Mauler Mithel; 3x Obsidian Sq. Pilot

#6: 3x Bounty Hunter

#7: Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device; Echo + Advanced Cloaking Device + Recon Specialist + Veteran Instincts; 2x Academy Pilot

#8: Wedge Antilles + Swarm Tactics; Biggs Darklighter; Tarn Mison; Rookie Pilot

#9: 4x Scimitar Sq. Pilot; Onyx Sq. Pilot

#10: Wedge Antilles + Outmaneuver + R2; 2x Bandit Sq. Pilot; Blue Sq. Pilot; Rookie Pilot

#11: Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device; Echo + Veteran Instincts + Recon Specialist + Advanced Cloaking Device; Royal Guard Pilot + Push the Limit

#12: Whisper + Advanced Cloaking Device + Tactician + Swarm Tactics; 2x Sigma + Advanced Cloaking Device + Intelligence Agent

#13: Whisper + Navigator + Advanced Cloaking Device + Veteran Instincts; Howlrunner; 3x Obsidian Sq. Pilots

#14: Whisper + Fire Control System + Advanced Cloaking Device + Veteran Instincts; Royal Guard Pilot + Push the Limit; Bounty Hunter + Recon Specialist

#15: Luke Skywalker + Veteran Instincts; Roark Garnet + Blaster Turret + Moldy Crow; Rookie Pilot; 2x Bandit Sq. Pilot

#16: Luke Skywalker + Veteran Instincts + R2-D2; Wedge Antilles + Predator + Flechette Torpedo; Wes Janson + Predator + R3A2

wow, Talk about a list of squads that lets the Phantom rule. 7 of the 16 list featured the Phantom while only two 360 Turret ships made the top 16. There seems to be not much resistance to the Phantom in this event . I would love to see a break down of all the squads that were played that day. It would seem very few YT-1300 were played. 5 of the top were list that the #3 list could have done well against. what a truly disappointing decision they made to not play the championships rounds.

The lack of a single elimination bracket may have contributed to these standings.

Posted at 2014-07-16 19:38:33+00:00

The only differences we'd see would be a change to the Top 8/finalist, so the information is mostly there anyways. We can make some guesses as to the winner after a cut to Top 8 though!

Posted at 2014-07-16 19:58:45+00:00

The only differences we'd see would be a change to the Top 8/finalist, so the information is mostly there anyways. We can make some guesses as to the winner after a cut to Top 8 though!

This event would likely be won by a Phantom list. With 3 list in the top 8 having Phantoms it stands a high chance. the two list that have the best chance to rolling through the Phantom list are 3 and 6. Since the are at 3 and 6, they will face each other in the first round of the knock out rounds. this will open the door for the Phantoms.

Posted at 2014-07-16 21:19:06+00:00

Sadly even in the german nationals we won't see any cut :/

So yeah a very poor & disappointing decision.

Any information on why exactly it is being run this way? I know that it was mentioned that it's being run under rules from the German Distributor and that's why no 3PO (which is weird that Wave 4 has shown up, but no Tantive yet), but I didn't catch the reasons for no final cut. May have been lost in the other discussion though.

Posted at 2014-07-16 21:41:35+00:00

Informations on the regional or the nationals? For the first: i don't know - wasn't there. For the second: the German Distributor will hold a big event in an old castle, where we will also find the other nationals of the "great systems" of FFG. The event is reduced to a weekend and the capacity maybe good but not that good.

So they need to divide the nationals and hold them on seperate days. The Android Netrunner nationals as a much bigger event than the X-Wing nationals will took place on the (for us bedder day - 'cause of the travel a.s.o) saturday - so there is only the sunday left, where the X-Wing players can play their battles - with an estimate attendance of 64 players ...

It's still time to late august, so perhaps they might decide that we will have a Cut - but thats another story for later days.

Edited July 16, 2014 by Nickos13

Posted at 2014-07-16 21:59:20+00:00

Attendance: 45

Final Cut: 6 rounds of Swiss, no Final Cut

Winner: Soontir Fel + Push the Limit; Howlrunner; 4x Obsidian Sq. Pilot

#2: Echo + Veteran Instincts + Sensor Jammer + Advanced Cloaking Device; Scimitar Squadron + Assault Missiles + Seismic Charges + Munitions Failsafe; 3x Academy Pilot

#3: Han Solo + Veteran Instincts + Millennium Falcon + Engine Upgrade + Chewbacca + Gunner; 3x Tala Sq. Pilot

#4: Echo + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Sensors + Intelligence Agent; 5x Academy Pilot

#5: Turr Phennirr + Veteran Instincts; Howlrunner; Mauler Mithel; 3x Obsidian Sq. Pilot

#6: 3x Bounty Hunter

#7: Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device; Echo + Advanced Cloaking Device + Recon Specialist + Veteran Instincts; 2x Academy Pilot

#8: Wedge Antilles + Swarm Tactics; Biggs Darklighter; Tarn Mison; Rookie Pilot

#9: 4x Scimitar Sq. Pilot; Onyx Sq. Pilot

#10: Wedge Antilles + Outmaneuver + R2; 2x Bandit Sq. Pilot; Blue Sq. Pilot; Rookie Pilot

#11: Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device; Echo + Veteran Instincts + Recon Specialist + Advanced Cloaking Device; Royal Guard Pilot + Push the Limit

#12: Whisper + Advanced Cloaking Device + Tactician + Swarm Tactics; 2x Sigma + Advanced Cloaking Device + Intelligence Agent

#13: Whisper + Navigator + Advanced Cloaking Device + Veteran Instincts; Howlrunner; 3x Obsidian Sq. Pilots

#14: Whisper + Fire Control System + Advanced Cloaking Device + Veteran Instincts; Royal Guard Pilot + Push the Limit; Bounty Hunter + Recon Specialist

#15: Luke Skywalker + Veteran Instincts; Roark Garnet + Blaster Turret + Moldy Crow; Rookie Pilot; 2x Bandit Sq. Pilot

#16: Luke Skywalker + Veteran Instincts + R2-D2; Wedge Antilles + Predator + Flechette Torpedo; Wes Janson + Predator + R3A2

wow, Talk about a list of squads that lets the Phantom rule. 7 of the 16 list featured the Phantom while only two 360 Turret ships made the top 16. There seems to be not much resistance to the Phantom in this event . I would love to see a break down of all the squads that were played that day. It would seem very few YT-1300 were played. 5 of the top were list that the #3 list could have done well against. what a truly disappointing decision they made to not play the championships rounds.

The lack of a single elimination bracket may have contributed to these standings.

Absolutely, I got third place with Han. I got sine really worse pairings. Two times against triple BH, I lost a game against triple bounty hunter which is the natural enemy of every falcon list. I got only 2 Phantom matchups what was sad, because Han eats them. But I'm happy with my regionals results, I could win 2 of 5. (Place 2,1,1,3,3).

A single elimination is in my opinion the only option when there are more than 32 player.

Posted at 2014-07-17 13:53:59+00:00

Personally, I think a cut to top 4 is sufficient. Top 8 really drags the event too long with 75 minutes round and by the time we reach the finals, players are exhausted and probably not at their best.

Posted at 2014-07-17 16:57:28+00:00

Week 12 is just around the corner! We have 7 Regionals this weekend:

Week 12 (7 upcoming)
July 19: Mexico, D.F., Mexico. El Duende - Hobbie Games
July 19: Broomfield, CO, United States. Total Escape Games
July 19: Plano, TX, United States. Madness Games and Comics
July 19: Spokane, WA, United States. Uncle's Games
July 19: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Spartan Games Arena
July 20: Hobart, TAS, Australia. Area 52
July 20: Bucharest, Romania. War Games Store

I just emailed all of them except for El Duende, I couldn't find their email / website wasn't responding. If anyone is going or speaks Spanish and would like to post on their Facebook page to ask for results, the event is posted here:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/El-Duende/208882772482096

Consolidated Wave 4 Results now on first page!
I recently added spoiler tags to the results for each country, to make it easier to navigate. Unfortunately this has the side effect of not making it possible to string search for "wave 4". Since wave 4 is such a hot topic, I copied the text results for all Wave 4 Tournaments, sorted by date, and put them under their own spoiler heading here on the first page. Here is the summary:

Wave 4 Consolidated Results

Results of only tournaments where wave 4 is legal, sorted by date. Copied from the results below.

Mesa, AZ, United States
June 28th, 2014
Empire Games
Attendance: 50
wave 4 legal
Final Cut: Top 8
Info: https://www.facebook.com/empiregamesaz

Winner: Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device + Fire Control System + Intelligence Agent; Howlrunner + Hull Upgrade; 3x Academy Pilot
2nd Place: Lando + Expert Handling; Chewbacca; Bandit Sq. Pilot
Top 4: Biggs; 2x Dagger Sq. Pilot + Advanced Sensors; Rookie Pilot
Top 4: Biggs; 2x Blue Sq. Pilot + Heavy Laser Cannon + Fire Control Systems; Bandit Sq. Pilot
Top 8: Biggs; 3x Blue Sq. Pilot + Advanced Sensors
Top 8: Chewbacca + C-3PO + Gunner + Expert Handling; 2x Blue Sq. Pilot + Fire Control Systems
Top 8: Soontir Fel + Push the Limit + Hull Upgrade; 2x Bounty Hunter
Top 8: Han Solo + C-3PO + Millennium Falcon + Determination + Recon Specialist; Lando + Draw Their Fire + Nien Nunb
Top 16: Luke + R2-D2 + Shield Upgrade + Draw Their Fire; Biggs; Tala Sq. Pilot; Tarn Mison + R7 Astromech
Top 16: Lando + Push the Limits + Nien Nunb + C-3PO; Chewbacca + Veteran Instincts + Weapons Engineer + Tactician + Millennium Falcon
Top 16: Luke + R2-D2 + Draw Their Fire; Biggs; 2x Rookie Pilot
Top 16: Han Solo + Millennium Falcon; Lando + Veteran Instincts; Mercenary Copilot + Gunner
Top 16: Echo + Tactician + Fire Control Systems + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device; 2x Royal Guard Pilot + Push the Limits + Targeting Computer + Hull Upgrade
Top 16: Chewbacca + Predator + Gunner + Millennium Falcon; Tarn Mison + R7 Astromech; Blue Sq. Pilot + Fire Control Systems
Top 16: Lando + Gunner + Veteran Instincts; Han Solo + C-3PO
Top 16: Luke + Draw Their Fire + R2-D2; Biggs; 2x Rookie Pilot

Singapore
June 29, 2014
Gamersaurus Rex
wave 4 legal
info: http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/109893-gamersaurus-rex-singapore-regionals/
Attendance: 35
Final Cut: 6 rounds of swiss, Final Cut to Top 8

Winner: Chewbacca + Veteran Instincts + Gunner + C-3PO + Millennium Falcon; 4x Bandit Sq. Pilot
2nd place: Chewbacca + Engine Upgrade + Millennium Falcon + Luke + C-3PO + Predator; 3x Tala Sq. Pilot
Top 4: Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Rebel Captive + Advanced Cloaking Device; Carnor Jax + Push the Limit + Stealth Device + Hull Upgrade; Omicron Group Pilot + Vader
Top 4: Krassis Trelix + Heavy Laser Cannon + Recon Specialist; Howlrunner; 3x Academy Pilot
Top 8: Krassis Trelix + Heavy Laser Cannon + Recon Specialist; Howlrunner; 3x Academy Pilot
Top 8: Roark + Ion Cannon Turret; Blue Sq. Pilot + Ion Cannon; Blue Sq. Pilot; Knave Sq. Pilot + R3-A2
Top 8: Biggs; 2x Dagger Sq. Pilot + Advanced Sensors; Gold Sq. Pilot + R3-A2
Top 8: Echo + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device + Fire Control + Rebel Captive; 5x Academy Pilot
#9: Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device + Fire Control System; 5x Academy Pilot
#10: Echo + Veteran Instincts + Recon Specialist + Advanced Cloaking Device; Omicron Group Pilot + 2x Tactician; Bounty Hunter + Tactician + Seismic Charges
#11: Kath Scarlet + Push the Limit + Recon Specialist + Engine Upgrade; 4x Obsidian Sq. Pilot

Gatineau, Quebec, Canada
July 5, 2014
Freres de Bataille
wave 4 legal
Attendance: 28
Final Cut: Top 8

Winner: Han Solo + Engine Upgrade + Predator + Millennium Falcon + C3P0 + Luke; 3x Bandit Sq. Pilot
2nd place: Chewbacca + Gunner + C3P0 + Veteran Instincts + Millennium Falcon; 4x Bandit Sq. Pilot
Top 4: Whisper + Intelligence Agent + Advanced Sensors + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device; Bounty Hunter + Tactician; Omicron Group Pilot + Vader
Top 4: Omicron Group Pilot + Heavy Laser Cannon; Soontir Fel + Push the Limit + Targeting Computer; Backstabber; 2x Academy Pilot
Top 8: Lando + Recon Specialist + Push the Limit + Nien Nunb; Chewbacca + Recon Specialist + Push the Limit + Millennium Falcon
Top 8: Han Solo + Marksmanship + C3P0 + Gunner + Millennium Falcon; 2x Rookie Pilot
Top 8: Soontir Fel + Shield Upgrade + Targeting Computer + Push the Limit; Carnor Jax + Push the Limit + Hull Upgrade; Gamma Sq. Pilot + Assault Missile + Cluster Missiles + Proton Torpedo
Top 8: Howlrunner + Swarm Tactics; Mauler Mithel + Swarm Tactics; 2x Academy Pilot; 2x Alpha Sq. Pilot
#9: Wedge + Squad Leader + R2; Roark + Blaster Turret; Blount + Ion Pulse Missile; Blue Sq. Pilot + Ion Cannon
#10: 3x Blue Sq. Pilot; 2x Prototype Pilot
#11: 2x Bounty Hunter + Recon Specialist; Omicron Group Pilot + Vader + Rebel Captive
#12: 3x Bandit Sq. Pilot; 2x Rookie Pilot; Blue Sq. Pilot
#13: Chewbacca + Opportunist + Han Solo + Weapons Engineer + Millennium Falcon; 2x Blue Sq. Pilot + Fire Control System
#14: Han Solo + C3P0 + Millennium Falcon; 2x Blue Sq. Pilot + Advanced Sensors
#15: Wes + Janson + Veteran Instincts; Wedge + Predator + R2; Luke + R2D2 + Draw Their Fire + Shield Upgrade
#16: Blue Sq. Pilot + Heavy Laser Cannon + Fire Control System; Ten Nunb + Heavy Laser Cannon + Fire Control System + Veteran Instincts; Roark + Ion Cannon Turret + Chewbacca
#17:Dutch + 2x Flechette Torpedoe + R2; Hobbie + R3A2; Gold Sq. Pilot + 2x Flechette Torpedo + R2; Blue Sq. Pilot
#18 Han Solo + Chewbacca + C3P0 + Determination + Stealth Device + Cluster Missiles; Wedge + Shield Upgrade + R2-D2 + Adrenaline Rush
#19: 2x Omicron Group Pilot + Fire Control System + Anti-Pursuit Lasers, Omicron Group Pilot + Fire Control System; Omicron Group Pilot + Fire Control System + Vader
#20: Gold Sq. Pilot + Ion Cannon Turret + Engine Upgrade; 2x Blue Sq. Pilot Advanced + Heavy Laser Cannon + Engine Upgrade
#21: Soonitr Fel + Push the Limit; Carnor Jax; Howlrunner; 2x Obsidian Sq. Pilot
#22: Wes Janson + Veteran Instincts + R3-A2; Wedge + Predator + R4-D6; Luke + Predator + R2-D2
#23:Dutch + Ion Cannon Turret + R2; Hobbie + R3A2; Tarn; Rookie Pilot
#24: Etahn + Swarm Tactics + R2-D2; Roark + Moldy Crow + Recon Specialist + Blaster Turret; Blue Sq. Pilot + Heavy Laser Cannon + Fire Control System
#25: 3x Bounty Hunter
#26: Echo + Outmaneuver + Fire Control System + Advanced Cloaking Device + Rebel; 2x Royal Guard Pilot + Push the Limit + Shield Upgrade
#27: Biggs + R2D2; 2x Blue Sq. Pilot + Heavy Laser Cannon + Advanced Sensors + Hull Upgrade
#28: Rexlar Brath + Predator; 4x Black Sq. Pilot + Veteran Instincts

Turku, Finland
July 5, 2014
Fantasiapelit Turku
wave 4 legal
Attendance: 13
Final Cut: Top 4

Winner: Echo + Veteran Instincts + Fire-Control System + Recon Specialist + Advanced Cloaking Device; Howlrunner + Swarm Tactics + Hull Upgrade; 3x Academy Pilot
2nd place: Sigma Squadron Pilot + Stygium Particle Accelerator; 2x Bounty Hunter + Recon Specialist
Top 4: Howlrunner + Swarm Tactics; Rexler Brath + Predator + Engine Upgrade; 3x Academy Pilot
Top 4: Soontir Fel + Push the Limit; Howlrunner; 4x Obsidian Sq. Pilot

Kingston, Ontario, Canada
July 12, 2014
Kingston Nexus Hobbies
wave 4 legal
info: http://kingstonnexus.ca/?event=2014-x-wing-regionals
Attendance: 32
Final Cut: 6 rounds of Swiss, cut to Top 8

Winner: Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device + Gunner + Fire Control System; Soontir Fel + Push the Limit; Captain Yorr
2nd place: Airen Cracken + Swarm Tactics + Shield Upgrade; 3x Tala Sq. Pilot; 3x Bandit Sq. Pilot
Top 4: Han Solo + Millennium Falcon + Luke Skywalker + C-3PO + Predator + Engine Upgrade; 3x Bandit Squadron Pilot
Top 4: 4x Bue Sq. Pilot; Bandit Sq. Pilot
Top 8: 4x Bue Sq. Pilot; Bandit Sq. Pilot
Top 8: Howlrunner + Swarm Tactics; Mauler Mithel + Swarm Tactics; 2x Alpha Sq. Pilot; 2x Academy Pilot
Top 8: Whisper + Intelligence Agent + Advanced Cloaking Device + Fire Control System + Veteran Instincts; Howlrunner; 3x Obsidian Sq. Pilot Pilot
Top 8: Kath Scarlet + Predator + Rebel Captive; Howlrunner + Swarm Tactics; 3x Academy Pilot
#9: Chewbacca + Gunner + C3P0 + Veteran Instincts + Millennium Falcon; 4x Bandit Sq. Pilot
#10: Han Solo + Marksmanship + Gunner + C3P0 + Engine Upgrade + Millennium Falcon; Airen Cracken + Swarm Tactics; Bandit Sq. Pilot + Assault Missiles
#11: Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Sensors + Advanced Cloaking Device; 3x Scimitar Sq. Pilot + Concussion Missile

Nuernberg, Germany
July 12, 2014
Ultra Comix GmbH
wave 4 legal. Tantive IV (C3-P0) not available and not legal.
info: https://www.facebook.com/events/611351872283678/?ref=5
info: http://forum.hds-fantasy.de/viewtopic.php?f=315&t=16829
info: http://moseisleyraumhafen.forumieren.com/t2220-regional-sud-2014-ultra-comix-nurnberg
info: http://moseisleyraumhafen.forumieren.com/t2535-liveticker-spielberichte-regional-sud-2014
Attendance: 45
Final Cut: 6 rounds of Swiss, no Final Cut

Winner: Soontir Fel + Push the Limit; Howlrunner; 4x Obsidian Sq. Pilot
#2: Echo + Veteran Instincts + Sensor Jammer + Advanced Cloaking Device; Scimitar Squadron + Assault Missiles + Seismic Charges + Munitions Failsafe; 3x Academy Pilot
#3: Han Solo + Veteran Instincts + Millennium Falcon + Engine Upgrade + Chewbacca + Gunner; 3x Tala Sq. Pilot
#4: Echo + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Sensors + Intelligence Agent; 5x Academy Pilot
#5: Turr Phennirr + Veteran Instincts; Howlrunner; Mauler Mithel; 3x Obsidian Sq. Pilot
#6: 3x Bounty Hunter
#7: Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device; Echo + Advanced Cloaking Device + Recon Specialist + Veteran Instincts; 2x Academy Pilot
#8: Wedge Antilles + Swarm Tactics; Biggs Darklighter; Tarn Mison; Rookie Pilot
#9: 4x Scimitar Sq. Pilot; Onyx Sq. Pilot
#10: Wedge Antilles + Outmaneuver + R2; 2x Bandit Sq. Pilot; Blue Sq. Pilot; Rookie Pilot
#11: Whisper + Veteran Instincts + Advanced Cloaking Device; Echo + Veteran Instincts + Recon Specialist + Advanced Cloaking Device; Royal Guard Pilot + Push the Limit
#12: Whisper + Advanced Cloaking Device + Tactician + Swarm Tactics; 2x Sigma + Advanced Cloaking Device + Intelligence Agent
#13: Whisper + Navigator + Advanced Cloaking Device + Veteran Instincts; Howlrunner; 3x Obsidian Sq. Pilots
#14: Whisper + Fire Control System + Advanced Cloaking Device + Veteran Instincts; Royal Guard Pilot + Push the Limit; Bounty Hunter + Recon Specialist
#15: Luke Skywalker + Veteran Instincts; Roark Garnet + Blaster Turret + Moldy Crow; Rookie Pilot; 2x Bandit Sq. Pilot
#16: Luke Skywalker + Veteran Instincts + R2-D2; Wedge Antilles + Predator + Flechette Torpedo; Wes Janson + Predator + R3A2

Santiago, Chile
July 12, 2014
El Muro
wave 4 legal

Attendance: 12

Final Cut: 4 rounds of Swiss, cut to Top 4

Winner: Etahn; 2x Blue Sq. Pilot; 2x Bandit Sq. Pilot
2nd place: Echo + Predator + Advanced Cloaking Device; Fire Control Systems; Howlrunner + Stealth Device + Elusiveness; Dark Curse + Stealth Device; Night Beast + Stealth Device
Top 4: Han Solo + Intelligence Agent + Millennium Falcon; Blue Sq. Pilot + Advanced Sensors; Gold Sq. Pilot + R2-D2 + Ion Cannon Turret
Top 4: Rexler Brath + Outmaneuver + Heavy Laser Cannon; Royal Guard Pilot + Stealth Device + Push the Limit; Royal Guard Pilot + Stealth Device

Stats Updates through week 4!

Statistics for wave 4 tournaments have been updated on the first page, and are copied here:

Wave 4 tournament statistics (last updated July 17)
Only includes results for tournaments where wave 4 is legal.

Attendance

Tournaments 7

Total Attendance 215

median 32

mean 30.7

Standard deviation 13.5

Smallest event 12

Largest event 50

8 - 12: 1

13 - 19: 1

20 - 29: 1

30 - 39: 2

40 - 49: 1

50 - 99: 1

100+ 0

Tournament Winners

Imperials 65.12%

Rebels 34.88%

Final Cut + Top Third

Imperials 52.27%

Rebels 47.73%

Turrets

Turret points 20.55%

Rebel turret points 42.82%

Initiative bid

100 points 58.79%

99 points 25.66%

98 points 5.27%

97 points 9.46%

96 points 0.82%

incomplete data 0.00%

PS bid (Swarm Tactics, Roark not included)

Mean PS 5.32

PS1 10.46%

PS2 19.12%

PS3 10.98%

PS4 6.50%

PS5 8.63%

PS6 1.77%

PS7 9.16%

PS8 12.38%

PS9 21.00%

PS10 0.15%

PS11 1.54%

General Point Distribution

top 5 ships 75.82%

middle 6 ships 22.74%

bottom 5 ships 1.44%

Overall ship usage

TIE Fighter 20.87%
YT-1300 20.12%
TIE Phantom 14.03%
Z-95 13.22%
B-wing 7.58%
TIE Interceptor 7.35%
X-wing 5.52%
Firespray 5.05%
Lambda Shuttle 2.37%
TIE Bomber 1.61%
E-wing 0.85%
TIE Defender 0.74%
HWK-290 0.42%
Y-wing 0.28%

A-wing 0.00%
TIE Advanced 0.00%

Base attack dice

4 attack ships 14.03%

3 attack ships 40.65%

2 attack ships 36.51%

1 attack ships 0.42%

Base defense dice (ACD Phantom counted as 2)

3 defense ships 29.80%

2 defense ships 39.84%

1 defense ships 30.35%

Named / Non-named statistics

Non-named ship points 45.0%

Named ship points (all) 55.0%

Named ship points (pilots 1-4) 30.5%

% of Imperial points spent on named pilots 55.8%

% of Rebel points spent on named pilots 54.2%

Non-named ships + named YT-1300 (normalized, adds to 100%)

YT-1300 (named) 30.91%
TIE Fighter 22.34%
Z-95 18.95%
B-wing 11.64%
Firespray 5.38%
TIE Bomber 2.47%
X-wing 2.41%
TIE Interceptor 2.03%
Lambda Shuttle 1.68%
TIE Phantom 1.02%
Y-wing 0.43%
TIE Defender 0.41%
E-wing 0.32%

YT-1300 (ORS) 0.00%
A-wing 0.00%
HWK-290 0.00%
TIE Advanced 0.00%

Named pilot usage (not normalized)

Chewbacca 9.35%
Han Solo 7.30%
Whisper 8.55%
Howlrunner 5.28%
Soontir Fel 4.91%
Echo 4.81%
Lando Calrissian 3.47%
Biggs Darklighter 2.10%
Captain Yorr 1.27%
Krassis Trelix 1.00%
Airen Cracken 0.77%
Wedge Antilles 0.70%
Carnor Jax 0.69%
Luke Skywalker 0.68%
Etahn A'baht 0.64%
Kath Scarlet 0.55%
Mauler Mithel 0.49%
Rexler Brath 0.47%
Tarn Mison 0.47%
Roark Garnet 0.42%
Turr Phennir 0.42%
Backstabber 0.19%
Dark Curse 0.19%
Night Beast 0.18%
Lieutenant Blount 0.10%

Winged Gundark 0.00%
Darth Vader 0.00%
Maarek Steele 0.00%
Tetran Cowell 0.00%
Kir Kanos 0.00%
Lieutenant Lorrir 0.00%
"Fel's Wrath" 0.00%
Boba Fett 0.00%
Major Rhymer 0.00%
Captain Jonus 0.00%
Captain Kagi 0.00%
Colonel Jendon 0.00%
Colonel Vessery 0.00%
Wes Janson 0.00%
Jek Porkins 0.00%
Garven Dreis 0.00%
"Hobbie" Klivian 0.00%
Horton Salm 0.00%
"Dutch" Vander 0.00%
Tycho Celchu 0.00%
Arvel Crynyd 0.00%
Ten Numb 0.00%
Ibitsam 0.00%
Jan Ors 0.00%
Kyle Katarn 0.00%
Corran Horn 0.00%

Upgrades

Points Spent on Upgrades 10.06%

Upgrade point breakdown (% below as a portion of upgrade points spent)

System Upgrades 10.41%

Advanced Sensors 3.65%

Fire-Control Sytems 5.28%

Sensor Jammer 1.48%

Modifications 24.40%

Advanced Cloaking Device 13.73%

Anti-Pursuit Lasers 0.00%

Engine Upgrade 5.15%

Hull Upgrade 1.87%

Shield Upgrade 1.49%

Stealth Device 1.03%

Stygium Cloaking Device 0.21%

Munitions Failsafe 0.37%

Targeting Computer 0.55%

Cannons 5.92%

Autoblaster 0.00%

Heavy Laser Cannon 5.55%

Ion Cannon 0.37%

Turrets 1.01%

Blaster Turret 0.40%

Ion Cannon Turret 0.61%

Torpedoes 0.23%

Advanced Proton Torpedoes 0.00%

Flechette Torpedoe 0.00%

Proton Torpedoes 0.23%

Missiles 2.79%

Assault Missiles 2.41%

Cluster Missiles 0.23%

Concussion Missiles 0.00%

Homing Missiles 0.00%

Ion Pulse Missiles 0.15%

Bombs 0.86%

Proton Bombs 0.00%

Proximity Mines 0.00%

Seismic Charges 0.86%

Titles 2.62%

Millenium Falcon 2.47%

Moldy Crow 0.15%

Slave 1 0.00% (0 points, not counted)

ST-321 0.00%

Droids 1.44%

R2 0.13%

R2-D2 0.82%

R2-D6 0.00%

R2-F2 0.00%

R3-A2 0.29%

R4-D6 0.00%

R5 0.00%

R5-D8 0.00%

R5-K6 0.00%

R5-P9 0.00%

R7 0.21%

R7-T1 0.00%

Crew 31.84%

C3P0 6.50%

Chewbacca 0.99%

Darth Vader 0.78%

Luke Skywalker 6.17%

Flight Instructor 0.00%

Gunner 10.04%

Han Solo 0.00%

Intelligence Agent 1.36%

Mercenary Copilot 0.10%

Navigator 0.17%

Nien Nunb 0.21%

R2-D2 0.00%

Rebel Captive 0.85%

Recon Specialist 3.60%

Saboteur 0.00%

Tactician 0.91%

Weapons Engineer 0.15%

Elite Pilot Talents 18.49%

Adrenaline Rush 0.00%

Daredevil 0.00%

Deadeye 0.00%

Determination 0.10%

Draw Their Fire 0.26%

Elusiveness 0.20%

Expert Handling 1.03%

Expose 0.00%

Marksmanship 0.33%

Opportunist 0.00%

Outmaneuver 0.37%

Predator 3.45%

Push the Limit 6.88%

Swarm Tactics 1.97%

Squad Leader 0.10%

Veteran Instincts 3.79%

Wingman 0.00%

Squad Archetypes
Legend

TIE/Ln: TIE Fighter
TIE/In: TIE Interceptor
TIE/sa: TIE Bomber
TIE/Ad: TIE Advanced
TIE/D: TIE Defender
TIE/Pha: TIE Phantom
Fire: Firespray
Lam: Lambda Shuttle
X: X-wing
B: B-wing
E: E-wing
Y: Y-wing
A: A-wing
Z: Z-95
YT: YT-1300 (ORS or named)
HWK: HWK-290

Imperial Squads 52.27%

TIE Phantom + anything 32.41%

3TIE/Pha 0.62%

2TIE/Ln, 2TIE/Pha 1.06%

1TIE/In, 2TIE/Pha 0.67%

3TIE/Ln, 1TIE/sa, 1TIE/Pha 3.71%

1TIE/In, 1TIE/Pha, 1Fire 0.53%

1TIE/In, 1TIE/Pha, 1Lam 6.71%

1TIE/Pha, 1Fire, 1Lam 1.73%

3TIE/Ln, 1TIE/Pha 0.99%

4TIE/Ln, 1TIE/Pha 11.60%

5TIE/Ln, 1TIE/Pha 3.21%

2TIE/In, 1TIE/Pha 0.51%

1TIE/Pha, 2Fire 1.07%

TIE Swarms (6-8 TIEs) 10.66%

5TIE/Ln, 1TIE/In 9.43%

4TIE/Ln, 2TIE/In 1.24%

4-5 TIEs 1.36%

4TIE/Ln, 1TIE/D 0.54%

4TIE/sa, 1TIE/D 0.82%

3 TIEs 1.07%

2TIE/In, 1TIE/D 0.49%

2TIE/In, 1TIE/sa 0.58%

2+ large base Imperial ships 2.26%

3Fire 1.24%

1TIE/In, 2Fire 1.03%

1 large Imperial ship + support 4.50%

5TIE/Ln, 1Fire 0.00%

4TIE/Ln, 1Fire 2.82%

4TIE/Ln, 1Lam 0.52%

3TIE/Ln, 1TIE/In, 1Lam 1.15%

Rebel Squads 47.73%

2 large Rebel ships 7.27%

2YT 3.15%

1Z, 2YT 4.12%

1 large Rebel ship + support 23.08%

4Z, 1YT 8.65%

3Z, 1YT 11.28%

2X, 1YT 0.58%

1X, 1B, 1YT 0.51%

2B, 1YT 1.03%

2Z, 1YT 0.53%

1B, 1Y, 1YT 0.49%

5+ small Rebel ships 7.82%

7Z 2.63%

2B, 1E, 2Z 1.98%

4B, 1Z 1.98%

2X, 1B, 2Z 0.74%

2X, 2Z, 1HWK 0.49%

4 X's and B's 5.04%

4X 1.96%

2X, 2B 2.06%

1X, 3B 1.03%

Misc. 4 small rebel ships 4.53%

1X, 2B, 1Y 0.72%

3X, 1Z 0.51%

1X, 1B, 1Z, 1HWK 0.51%

2B, 1E, 1HWK 0.72%

1X, 2B, 1Z 2.06%

3 small Rebel ships 0.00%

Wave 4 vs Wave 3 stats comparison now included!

Now included on Statistics post on the first page, and copied here for reference.

Key statistics vs. different meta

Much more coming soon:

More comprehensive statistics comparison
2013 Worlds Top 16 data
2014 Store Championships data
Graphical form

Squad Archetypes

wave 3 wave 4 change

Imperial Squads 54.80% 52.27% -2.54%

TIE Phantom + anything 0.00% 32.41% 32.41%

TIE Swarms (6-8 TIEs) 32.93% 10.66% -22.27%

4-5 TIEs 5.80% 1.36% -4.44%

3 TIEs 0.32% 1.07% 0.75%

2+ large Imperial ships 7.75% 2.26% -5.48%

1 large Imperial ship 8.00% 4.50% -3.51%

wave 3 wave 4 change

Rebel Squads 45.20% 47.73% 2.54%

2 large Rebel ships 4.02% 7.27% 3.25%

1 large Rebel ship 10.18% 23.08% 12.90%

5+ small Rebel ships 3.11% 7.82% 4.71%

4 X's and B's 16.72% 5.04% -11.68%

Misc. 4 small rebel ships 7.68% 4.53% -3.15%

3 small Rebel ships 3.48% 0.00% -3.48%

Overall Ship Usage

(coming soon)

Non-named ship Usage

(coming soon)

Base Attack Dice

(coming soon)

Base Defense Dice

(coming soon)

PS Bid

(coming soon)

Initiative Bid

(coming soon)

Final Cut + Top Third Squad placement

(coming soon)

Turret Usage

(coming soon)

Edited July 17, 2014 by MajorJuggler

Posted at 2014-07-17 18:52:40+00:00

Top 8 (as opposed to top 4) is needed in events in the 40+ player range to make SoS less painful when you factor in people dropping etc. FFG has a chart with attendance + number of rounds + cut for a reason. Would be nice to see more events actually adhere to it. Many events just run 60 min rounds if they are more concerned about venue limitations or w/e. While maybe not ideal either, it is actually covered in the rules of the event whereas deciding not to do a cut is not.

Top 4 for is good for the 20-30 ish player range, and i'm pretty sure that is what is on the mystery chart. Next year ffg really needs to make those public knowledge. I actually have one that was found, but it's technically for netrunner. Pretty sure all the games have the same numbers on them though.

Edited July 17, 2014 by bobbywhiskey

Posted at 2014-07-17 19:54:33+00:00

Top 8 (as opposed to top 4) is needed in events in the 40+ player range to make SoS less painful when you factor in people dropping etc. FFG has a chart with attendance + number of rounds + cut for a reason. Would be nice to see more events actually adhere to it. Many events just run 60 min rounds if they are more concerned about venue limitations or w/e. While maybe not ideal either, it is actually covered in the rules of the event whereas deciding not to do a cut is not.

Top 4 for is good for the 20-30 ish player range, and i'm pretty sure that is what is on the mystery chart. Next year ffg really needs to make those public knowledge. I actually have one that was found, but it's technically for netrunner. Pretty sure all the games have the same numbers on them though.

I might be missing something somewhere, but exactly where is it stated that you/TO MUST do a cut to Top 4/8?? When I look at the Organized Play guide I find this section on page 3 (I've bolded some parts for clarifications):

Tournament rounds

A Swiss-style tournament runs for a fixed number of rounds based on the number of attendees. For larger tournaments, the TO may either run through a full number of Swiss rounds, or choose to “cut to the top” after a declared number of rounds. This means that after a set number of Swiss rounds, the top-ranked players compete in single-elimination play to determine the overall champion. If the TO intends to cut to elimination play at the end of the tournament, he must announce this decision before the tournament starts.

It is important to note that you can always hold more than the minimum number of rounds before a cut. The more rounds you run, the more accurate your final standings.

Example: In a tournament of 24 players, the TO will either run five full Swiss rounds, or cut to the top players after a set number of rounds of play. To ensure the event duration is manageable, he opts to run three Swiss rounds, then cut to a single elimination bracket for the top four players.

picture uploading

The table is found on the same page and I can only see that it specifically states that as long as you run the minimum # of Swiss Rounds there is no (formal) need for Top 4/8

If you have other info available, then please share

Posted at 2014-07-17 20:28:32+00:00

Regional Event packet includes different provisions. Each kit, at least in the US, came with one

Posted at 2014-07-17 20:42:15+00:00

Regional Event packet includes different provisions. Each kit, at least in the US, came with one

Yup. And it specifically asks that the Regionals be run with that guide's recommendations so that a consistent experience is had across all Regionals for the players involved.

Posted at 2014-07-17 20:43:03+00:00

Regional Event packet includes different provisions. Each kit, at least in the US, came with one

Regional Event packet includes different provisions. Each kit, at least in the US, came with one

Yup. And it specifically asks that the Regionals be run with that guide's recommendations so that a consistent experience is had across all Regionals for the players involved.

Thx for the clarification guys

Posted at 2014-07-20 04:04:58+00:00

I'm sooooooo tired of seeing most imperial lists running mini swarms. So **** boring and uncreative IMO..

I don't care how effective they are.. Just not my thing.

Posted at 2014-07-20 04:25:49+00:00

I'm sooooooo tired of seeing most imperial lists running mini swarms. So **** boring and uncreative IMO..

I don't care how effective they are.. Just not my thing.

What would you run?

Posted at 2014-07-20 05:42:02+00:00

Any word from this weekends Regionals?

2014 Regionals results