Star Wars Legends

By Jegergryte, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

There will be no new material released that will not be equally canon, this has been made clear in the aforementioned article. All books, games, movies, shows, comics, and etc. are on the same playing field going forward.

That's right. There aren't going to be any 'new' Legends books - they're just re-branding the existing literature with that title, so that they can still sell them without people getting confused.

If that's the case it also means something rather interesting....

No more "future" Star Wars NEU* materiel. Just fillers that go between existing solidified canon...

Not that this bothers me, just interesting...

*New Expanded Universe - post revision stuff that corroborates with the new canon established in cartoons and films while ditching Legends materials.

This isn't necessarily the case; for instance, they may release new KOTOR-era material to solidify what is and isn't canon from that period. Right now, their focus is what we know as the Rebellion and New Jedi Order area because that's where the television and theatrical material is at the moment. With Disney announcing plans to release a new Star Wars movie for the foreseeable future, I would not be surprised if they tapped the Revan Goldmine.

Edited by PFElton

Bummed / Pissed / DISAPPOINTED that the EU is now Gutted essentially. It would have taken time and effort (2 Things that people Always Do in a corporation) to go through all of that material and find good stuff in it to keep and bad stuff to junk.

The mere fact that Chewbacca is in Ep 7 is a Slap to New Jedi Order and everything that happens after that. HE'S DEAD!!

D E D - - DEAD!! But here he is (Don't get me wrong Peter Mayhew being back is FRAKKIN' AWESOME and having met the man in person he is a very nice man w/ LARGE Hands)

But in the EU he is DEAD!! (Did I mention he was dead yet?)

Also Anakin is DEAD but in this casting I do not see a potential actor to play him. Which brings up the next question...How many children will the Solo's have in this "New Canon"??? Right now as it stands it is 1-Jaina with this new actress Daisy Ridley

Then you have a Han Solo-esque character with Oscar Isaac (Talon Karrde) and a Token Black Guy (Yes I can say that because I am Black so Deal w/ it) in a new Jedi John Boyega...We know Driver is going to be the Bad Guy and assume that Von Sydow will be a Baddy as well (Thrawn & Jorus Caboth is what my theory is) And Andy "Gollum" Serkis as some other random character (I would think that he is an important character if he was announced yesterday)

So now that the EU are now "Guidelines" and not canon it will be interesting to see what Abrams & Co. do w/ our beloved Franchise. Remember He Destroyed Vulcan w/o seeing a single ep. of Star Trek...He is a self proclaimed Star Wars Fans so theoretically he has Read & Seen EVERY PIECE OF STAR WARS MATERIAL OUT THERE & Talked to Jedi Master/God himself George Lucas...So...IN ABRAMS WE TRUST!

"I find your Lack of Faith Disturbing!"

I prefer the term "up in the air" at this point when it comes to EU. We just don't know what's getting the axe and what isn't.

But this was something that everyone should have seen coming, it happens all the time. Even Paul Verhoven refused to read "Starship Troopers" beyond the first chapter because he was afraid it would "corrupt his vision."

There will be no new material released that will not be equally canon, this has been made clear in the aforementioned article. All books, games, movies, shows, comics, and etc. are on the same playing field going forward.

That's right. There aren't going to be any 'new' Legends books - they're just re-branding the existing literature with that title, so that they can still sell them without people getting confused.

If that's the case it also means something rather interesting....

No more "future" Star Wars NEU* materiel. Just fillers that go between existing solidified canon...

Not that this bothers me, just interesting...

*New Expanded Universe - post revision stuff that corroborates with the new canon established in cartoons and films while ditching Legends materials.

This isn't necessarily the case; for instance, they may release new KOTOR-era material to solidify what is and isn't canon from that period. Right now, their focus is what we know as the Rebellion and New Jedi Order area because that's where the television and theatrical material is at the moment.

But KOTOR era would be "past" NEU, not "future" NEU.

Anything that Pre-Episode I is relatively safe until someone specifically removes it or they decide to produce Episode -1, -2, ect... Which is possible, but unlikely...

Edited by Ghostofman

@Lokis...I am not pissed that Chewbacca is back. The fact that they did not "Cleanse" the EU so much as Disregarded it is what got me. They didn't even make the effort to try to pick and choose stuff from the EU, they just swept it under a rug and called it, "Legends"

SERIOUSLY??!!!

Make some effort and tell us specifically you like and dislike or some sort of guess of where it would be cut off or SOMETHING!! Which it what they did NOT do.

@Lokis...I am not pissed that Chewbacca is back. The fact that they did not "Cleanse" the EU so much as Disregarded it is what got me. They didn't even make the effort to try to pick and choose stuff from the EU, they just swept it under a rug and called it, "Legends"

SERIOUSLY??!!!

Make some effort and tell us specifically you like and dislike or some sort of guess of where it would be cut off or SOMETHING!! Which it what they did NOT do.

But they haven't just swept everything aside there are things from the EU that they are going to use in the Rebels show, we know this already. The will be using the EU, just not the plots.

@Lokis...I am not pissed that Chewbacca is back. The fact that they did not "Cleanse" the EU so much as Disregarded it is what got me. They didn't even make the effort to try to pick and choose stuff from the EU, they just swept it under a rug and called it, "Legends"

SERIOUSLY??!!!

Make some effort and tell us specifically you like and dislike or some sort of guess of where it would be cut off or SOMETHING!! Which it what they did NOT do.

Going forward, they will most certainly be picking and choosing what they like from the old EU and re-introducing it into the new, solidified canon. As was said in the above linked article from starwars.com,

While the universe that readers knew is changing, it is not being discarded. Creators of new Star Wars entertainment have full access to the rich content of the Expanded Universe.

Not discarded, but rather cherry-picked. So I can empathize with you (because I wold love to see more in-front-of-the-scenes picking and choosing right now, rather than have to wait for it in new publications), but they are doing exactly what you are describing. Can you think of a less confusing way to accomplish this?

@Lokis...I am not pissed that Chewbacca is back. The fact that they did not "Cleanse" the EU so much as Disregarded it is what got me. They didn't even make the effort to try to pick and choose stuff from the EU, they just swept it under a rug and called it, "Legends"

SERIOUSLY??!!!

Make some effort and tell us specifically you like and dislike or some sort of guess of where it would be cut off or SOMETHING!! Which it what they did NOT do.

No....

They are CURRENTLY picking and choosing, and at a level far more complex then you seem to expect. So something like say Jaina Solo might survive, though Jacen might get the axe.

And they CAN'T tell you, or even give you a hint about what's coming because it's too soon. It's the same reason why the guys playtesting a new game have a comprehensive NDA they have to sign. Because FFG doesn't want you panning the product based on some rumor about a rough draft of a rough draft.

Edited by Ghostofman

Well I will believe it when I see's it!

Edited by Lancer999

@Lokis...I am not pissed that Chewbacca is back. The fact that they did not "Cleanse" the EU so much as Disregarded it is what got me. They didn't even make the effort to try to pick and choose stuff from the EU, they just swept it under a rug and called it, "Legends"

SERIOUSLY??!!!

Make some effort and tell us specifically you like and dislike or some sort of guess of where it would be cut off or SOMETHING!! Which it what they did NOT do.

Ahh based on what I've read they will be including EU elements that they like in the new canon. You're upset just because they aren't rushing and deciding which EU elements to keep right away but are instead taking their time?

Edited by RogueCorona

@Lokis...I am not pissed that Chewbacca is back. The fact that they did not "Cleanse" the EU so much as Disregarded it is what got me. They didn't even make the effort to try to pick and choose stuff from the EU, they just swept it under a rug and called it, "Legends"

SERIOUSLY??!!!

Make some effort and tell us specifically you like and dislike or some sort of guess of where it would be cut off or SOMETHING!! Which it what they did NOT do.

Ahh based on what I've read they will be including EU elements that they like in the new canon. You're upset just because they aren't rushing and deciding which EU elements to keep right away but are instead taking their time?

Well really, they haven't put it in Limbo; the EU is non-canon until further notice.

Personally I like that Chewie is no longer being killed by a moon. I always thought it was kind of silly.

PFElton,

So nothing currently exists, until it re-exists, then it is back to having existed all along?

Edited by ccarlson101

PFElton,

So nothing currently exists, until it re-exists, then it is back to having existed all along?

Yes, if it re-exists.

So then you do not know what remains in existence at this time, since we are not yet aware of what will re-exist. Your consternation is premature at best.

So... What you're saying is that the state of the Extended Universe simultaneously exists as both Canon and Non-Canon until such time that it is observed?

So... What you're saying is that the state of the Extended Universe simultaneously exists as both Canon and Non-Canon until such time that it is observed?

Schrodinger's EU... pretty much correct though....

But...what if it never existed in the first place?

MY BRAIN hurts.

So... What you're saying is that the state of the Extended Universe simultaneously exists as both Canon and Non-Canon until such time that it is observed?

Schrodinger's EU... pretty much correct though....

Man I hope when I open that box The New Jedi Order is dead.

So... What you're saying is that the state of the Extended Universe simultaneously exists as both Canon and Non-Canon until such time that it is observed?

Schrodinger's EU... pretty much correct though....

Man I hope when I open that box The New Jedi Order is dead.

Its gonna be hard to resist the urge to spray paint "Jaxxon Lives" somewhere in Star Tours...

So then you do not know what remains in existence at this time, since we are not yet aware of what will re-exist. Your consternation is premature at best.

I didn't say it made sense, I'm just saying how it works. Fact is, we no longer have evidence that the Millennium Falcon is a YT-1300.

Sometimes I wish there was a "laugh this person off the stage" button next to the "like this" button...

Edited by ccarlson101

Sometimes I wish there was a "laugh this person off the stage" button next to the "like this" button...

Okay, just because you're too big of a dummy to accept the conundrum doesn't mean it isn't there.

I'll break it up for you real finelike:

EU is not canon.

Movies are canon.

The Clone Wars show is canon.

Everything not explicitly not stated or shown in movies or The Clone Wars show is technically not canon.

Stuff from the EU that used to be canon can be canon again if Disney reintroduces it.

And the fact that you think that the Powers That BeTM are going to bother fiddling with trivial minutia, such as to dictate that the Mellinium Falcon is no longer a YT-1300, just makes you sound like a Chicken Little crackpot with an ax to grind (since we are now evidently in the name calling business together...).

I'm pointing out a clear loophole that Disney needs to clarify and, until a post ago, trying to be nice and help explain it.

You're being a prick.

Is this really worth getting so worked up over?

Is this really worth getting so worked up over?

No, I had no idea that my explanation warranted him trying to mock me three times. I'm not saying anything nuts, I'm pointing out a fact.