I don't see this as a reboot or some sort of alternate reality. The Legends banner is simply a tag to place on all the old novels so they aren't confused with the new ones. So someone won't go into a bookstore looking for Heir to the Jedi and accidentally buy Heir to the Empire, thinking it was a sequel.

This is why I don't think it will affect the RPG at all. (or video games for that matter).

It's not a reboot of the timeline in the sense that the new Trek movies are. It is a reboot of fan expectations. Let's be honest many of us fans had given up on post RotJ movies especially after what Lucas did to the Prequels. So for better or for worse we had to look at the EU as canon of what happened after the defeat of the Emperor. If they plan to make new movies they had to reboot those expectations. If they ever plan to make movies in the Old Republic era, I'll bet we see a reboot of the Eu there too. It just make sense to untie their hands.

That's right, as of two days ago, Revan no longer exists.

Sweet merciful crap! You mean that Darth Revan was REAL?!? And the only thing it took to stop him was junking the Star Wars universe? Well, that was a close thing, wasn't it?

1) First of all, you really don't have to try so hard to be an insufferable **** to literally everyone on these boards.

2) My point is things about the Star Wars Universe that were iconic and held dear outside of the films - to the point of being synonymic - are gone, and that it's a deep-striking Reboot. Does this upset me? On some things, yes, it upsets most of us. I wish they had simply gone through and crossed out what is and isn't canon, but they didn't take that high road. Nonetheless, I am curious almost to the point of optimistic about the future.

1) Wow man! Calm down, take a joke for what it is, i.e. not a personal insult against your person and honour.

2) This statement is very biased and you assume to speak for many more than you probably do. I mean, sure a good portion of the community might agree with you to some degree or another, but do not imagine yourself to speak on someone else's behalf than your own (an equal portion if not larger of the Star Wars fans in the world to day don't give a **** about the EU - I do not count myself amongst those that don't give a ****, but I do not consider this news to be such an insult to my person as you seem to, if your posts are any indication). You're overreacting, like so many people do these days, they make assumptions and inference based on faulty reading of flawed articles and blog posts. "Simply gone through" the EU is, I think the understatement of the year, if you had any idea of how big it is... they made a simple and good decision. They will take whatever they want to use it in the new (and hopefully improved) canon, the utter crap like Crystal Star or Children of the Jedi, Nest Wars and crap like that can now be ignored and forgotten as it should be. Revan might still exist, but when it comes down to it, it doesn't matter as it seems the current plans for the star wars canon expansion is post-RotJ, not 3000 odd years BBY. We know that Darth Bane is part of canon, so perhaps Revan appears too - but I doubt he'll appear as presented in KOTOR I & II or SWTOR. which I guess is both good and bad.

I apologise if I seem too confrontational, but too many people have reacted too violently and pathos filled in my opinion, it bothers me because: it's only Star Wars man! It's a merchandise franchise really, nothing more. (runs off and hides in his cold war bunker).

It's not a reboot of the timeline in the sense that the new Trek movies are. It is a reboot of fan expectations. Let's be honest many of us fans had given up on post RotJ movies especially after what Lucas did to the Prequels. So for better or for worse we had to look at the EU as canon of what happened after the defeat of the Emperor. If they plan to make new movies they had to reboot those expectations. If they ever plan to make movies in the Old Republic era, I'll bet we see a reboot of the Eu there too. It just make sense to untie their hands.

Gah! Yes!

I'm elated. I've tried to get into several of the old novels. Blech. I even tried to cherry pick the most popular "gems", looking to develop a "best of" reading list. But the effort began to get taxing real fast. Which novels do I want to read? And in what order? Am I missing anything I don't know I'm missing? Heck, just finding some of the older books was annoying. It was a monumental task I gave up on less than half way through. I ended up reconciling the fact that the movies and TV show(s) were going to just have to be enough for me.

Now? I fully intend to pick up the new novels. This is a chance for me. A fresh start. To get in on things from the ground floor instead of years late to the party. So unless a now-Legend novel, with good recommendations, falls into my lap, I don't feel the the same need to explore it any longer.

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As for some of the sky-is-falling, hyperbolic silliness I've seen and heard out there about in the community... sheesh. Really? If, as some people are wont to claim, these stories shaped your youth and made you who you are today, did you wake up changed and purposeless the other day? Or are you still you? Because if this new bit of news did alter you very existence on some fundamental level, by invalidating your very childhood, I strongly recommend psychiatric treatment.

That's right, as of two days ago, Revan no longer exists.

Sweet merciful crap! You mean that Darth Revan was REAL?!? And the only thing it took to stop him was junking the Star Wars universe? Well, that was a close thing, wasn't it?

First of all, you really don't have to try so hard to be an insufferable **** to literally everyone on these boards.

Literally everyone? He hasn't ripped into me yet.

Do me next, Desslok! Do MEEE!!!

As for some of the sky-is-falling, hyperbolic silliness I've seen and heard out there about in the community... sheesh. Really? If, as some people are wont to claim, these stories shaped your youth and made you who you are today, did you wake up changed and purposeless the other day? Or are you still you? Because if this new bit of news did alter you very existence on some fundamental level, by invalidating your very childhood, I strongly recommend psychiatric treatment.

Given fan is shorthand for fanatic, is it any real wonder some fans are going a little nuts about this? And given this has been a huge hobby for some people, to actually be a part of who they are (go to a 501st meeting of evidence of this), for just over 25 years, is it any wonder why some people are being extremely defensive about this? This is by no means a unquie thing to Star Wars fandom either. About 2 months ago I thought the world was going to end for some American Football fans I know at work when the NFL announced it was looking to get rid of the Point After Touchdown kick. People are wired this way and the fans will eventually learn to cope one way or another (some better than others admittedly) without professional treament as suggested by yourself. So while their overreacting isn't apperiacted by most, niether is your over reaction to theirs. Things will calm down in time and in the mean time, lets try to keep the flaming down please.

My personal stance on this whole situation is 'meh.' A couple of my beloved franchises have gone through changes I didn't agree with for one reason or another, so I'm a bit inured to all this. The only thing I'm annoyed with is Dark Horse isn't going to be able to finish Legacy II properly. Overall I don't think the new EU is going to be any better or worse than the old, just different. There will be some pretty good stories and there will be some absolute crappy ones. My only hope is the upcoming trilogy will be more along the lines on the original than the sequel. But given this is a big name IP and will be made to provide enough of a spectecal appease the most amount of people possible for the biggest return, I am not hopeful. Also my own personal hopes are further dimmed by the fact J.J. Abrams is directing the first and I have not been a fan of any of his films these far (and I'm not jsut speaking of the Star Trek reboots.) But I'm still willing to go along for the ride at least one more time as I really have enjoyed the franchise overall.

I'm bummed because I like the EU.

I'm excited because new stuff! And I'm excited to see what old stuff will end up in the new stuff.

Goodbye EU for the NEU!

That's right, as of two days ago, Revan no longer exists.

Sweet merciful crap! You mean that Darth Revan was REAL?!? And the only thing it took to stop him was junking the Star Wars universe? Well, that was a close thing, wasn't it?

First of all, you really don't have to try so hard to be an insufferable **** to literally everyone on these boards.

Literally everyone? He hasn't ripped into me yet.

Do me next, Desslok! Do MEEE!!!

*Rolls scathing tirade.*

*Gets a despair!*

Um. . . Your mother smells vaguely of old socks, you big poopie head!

Oh children, learn some classics:

"Have you stopped wearing diapers yet?""Why, did you want to borrow one?"

or

"I got this scar on my face during a mighty struggle!""I hope now you've learned to stop picking your nose."

Now, like most fans i have parts of the EU that i love, some that i like and others i simply shake my head and ignore. I stopped somewhere with the Hand of Thrawn Duology, that was the last part i liked before several NJO books scared me away. Sunhammer? As if a planetbuster was not enough, no we had to go supernova!

While i consider it a cheap escape to simply annul all EU after those few months of sifting through it i understand it for the simple necessety to get a clean slate to get the new movies rolling. Doesn't mean that i like it.

As a lifelong ALIEN fan (a three-film trilogy as far as I'm concerned, though I do enjoy Prometheus), I long ago defined the term 'canon' to mean, 'stuff that some people on the internet think'. Predators in my ALIEN? Not one of of those 'you got chocolate in my peanut butter' sort of situations, in my view.

Some of you old WEG cats might recall the disclaimer in the beginning of the Dark Force Rising Sourcebook, circa 1992 or so. It went something like this:

"While this sourcebook describes future events involving characters from the Star Wars trilogy, this is a derivative work and has no bearing upon what might be revealed about them in future films."

I kinda wish all the Star Wars EU novels had said that.

Me, I just want the best films I can get. I want to wonder, "what has Luke Skywalker been up to all these years?", and then get my answer. I don't want to sit there and say, "I don't think this actress is quite capturing the essence of Mara Jade." Come on! What about entertainment?

And for the casuals it would be more like, "Luke Skywalker is married to this person? Who is she? I hate her." Multiply that by every significant event in every EU novel and comic, and you've got a lose/lose situation on your hands.

I look forward to Star Wars being brand-new again. Can you imagine how much fun that will be?

Given the confusing mess the prior tier-system canon was, it does make very good sense from a business perspective to simply do away with that degree of hassle and "start fresh" in a manor of speaking, setting a baseline for what is and isn't canon going forward as opposed to the "playing catch-up" methods that Leland Chee had to employ.

And Disney is first and foremost a business, one that's got a pretty solid idea of how to turn a profit.

And let's be honest, anyone that honestly expected the post-RotJ to survive wholecloth in the wake of the new movies was deluding themselves. Lucas had no problem disregarding any EU that conflicted with his vision of what the Clone Wars era should be, keeping only those elements he liked (such as Coruscant and the inclusion of Aayla Secura based on a comic book cover he saw). Stands to reason that Lucasfilm/Disney would do exactly the same when it came time to make movies set after the original trilogy.

I have one question...

Since canon will consist of future books published by Disney and whatnot, does that mean that people will keep an eye out for continuity and make sure everything jives together?

I have one question...

Since canon will consist of future books published by Disney and whatnot, does that mean that people will keep an eye out for continuity and make sure everything jives together?

That's my understanding... everything's official from here on in.

I have one question...

Since canon will consist of future books published by Disney and whatnot, does that mean that people will keep an eye out for continuity and make sure everything jives together?

That's my understanding... everything's official from here on in.

That right there is a pretty big plus. For me at least. I have read probably 5 or so EU books and that is about it. The idea that everything is going to fit together nicely, or so they hope, is a nice selling point.

Aye, it definitely is.

Where did you read that books or comics are officially canon moving forward?

Its entirely likely that the upcoming books are also released with the same Legends tagline.

Any Marvel Comics may ultimately become canon by virtue of both being Disney owned and the exclusive comic home for the IP going forward but personally taking a wait and see approach to what they say about them in terms of canon going forward.

Where did you read that books or comics are officially canon moving forward?

Its entirely likely that the upcoming books are also released with the same Legends tagline.

Any Marvel Comics may ultimately become canon by virtue of both being Disney owned and the exclusive comic home for the IP going forward but personally taking a wait and see approach to what they say about them in terms of canon going forward.

I think this is the bit people are using to say the books coming out are canon.

On the screen, the first new canon to appear will be Star Wars Rebels. In print, the first new books to come from this creative collaboration include novels from Del Rey Books. First to be announced, John Jackson Miller is writing a novel that precedes the events of Star Wars Rebels and offers insight into a key character's backstory, with input directly from executive producers Dave Filoni, Simon Kinberg, and Greg Weisman.

There will be no new material released that will not be equally canon, this has been made clear in the aforementioned article. All books, games, movies, shows, comics, and etc. are on the same playing field going forward.

Dl Rey certainly handeled the license better than Bantam did. IMHO. How dreadful some of that was I'm still POed about the Black Fleet Crisis

There will be no new material released that will not be equally canon, this has been made clear in the aforementioned article. All books, games, movies, shows, comics, and etc. are on the same playing field going forward.

That's right. There aren't going to be any 'new' Legends books - they're just re-branding the existing literature with that title, so that they can still sell them without people getting confused.

There will be no new material released that will not be equally canon, this has been made clear in the aforementioned article. All books, games, movies, shows, comics, and etc. are on the same playing field going forward.

That's right. There aren't going to be any 'new' Legends books - they're just re-branding the existing literature with that title, so that they can still sell them without people getting confused.

If that's the case it also means something rather interesting....

No more "future" Star Wars NEU* materiel. Just fillers that go between existing solidified canon...

Not that this bothers me, just interesting...

*New Expanded Universe - post revision stuff that corroborates with the new canon established in cartoons and films while ditching Legends materials.

Bummed / Pissed / DISAPPOINTED that the EU is now Gutted essentially. It would have taken time and effort (2 Things that people Always Do in a corporation) to go through all of that material and find good stuff in it to keep and bad stuff to junk.

The mere fact that Chewbacca is in Ep 7 is a Slap to New Jedi Order and everything that happens after that. HE'S DEAD!!

D E D - - DEAD!! But here he is (Don't get me wrong Peter Mayhew being back is FRAKKIN' AWESOME and having met the man in person he is a very nice man w/ LARGE Hands)

But in the EU he is DEAD!! (Did I mention he was dead yet?)

Also Anakin is DEAD but in this casting I do not see a potential actor to play him. Which brings up the next question...How many children will the Solo's have in this "New Canon"??? Right now as it stands it is 1-Jaina with this new actress Daisy Ridley

Then you have a Han Solo-esque character with Oscar Isaac (Talon Karrde) and a Token Black Guy (Yes I can say that because I am Black so Deal w/ it) in a new Jedi John Boyega...We know Driver is going to be the Bad Guy and assume that Von Sydow will be a Baddy as well (Thrawn & Jorus Caboth is what my theory is) And Andy "Gollum" Serkis as some other random character (I would think that he is an important character if he was announced yesterday)

So now that the EU are now "Guidelines" and not canon it will be interesting to see what Abrams & Co. do w/ our beloved Franchise. Remember He Destroyed Vulcan w/o seeing a single ep. of Star Trek...He is a self proclaimed Star Wars Fans so theoretically he has Read & Seen EVERY PIECE OF STAR WARS MATERIAL OUT THERE & Talked to Jedi Master/God himself George Lucas...So...IN ABRAMS WE TRUST!

"I find your Lack of Faith Disturbing!"

The mere fact that Chewbacca is in Ep 7 is a Slap to New Jedi Order and everything that happens after that. HE'S DEAD!!

D E D - - DEAD!! But here he is (Don't get me wrong Peter Mayhew being back is FRAKKIN' AWESOME and having met the man in person he is a very nice man w/ LARGE Hands)

But in the EU he is DEAD!! (Did I mention he was dead yet?)

Not at all surprised to see Chewie back the backlash after he died was crazy. Poor Salvatore for being given that task. Honestly there was no way to make everyone happy by keeping the EU or throwing it out and the EU needed a cleansing.

As someone with a crate of star wars novels, I keep saying: out with the old EU, in with the NEU!