My formal protest on the Epic rules!

By EmpireErik, in X-Wing

What no more than 12 ships of a single small type?! No 25 ship Academy Squadron?! Bastards!!

Why cannot I field edge to edge Tie fighters, waves upon waves, like the ocean ,on the Rebel scum?!

Objection!!!

300 pts for 25 Academies; or 15 Avengers.... Leaves a person sad.....lol j/k

Anyone up for a 600 point game?

10 Defenders still works, haha

As do 12 Phantoms (providing 25pts a piece)

God can you imagine 12 Phantoms? Cloaking in and out of existence? It would feel genuinely confusing. 1 Transport with 5 X-wing escorts get jumped by by 10 Phantoms? I can already hear the panicked Rebel comm chatter.

What no more than 12 ships of a single small type?! No 25 ship Academy Squadron?! Bastards!!

Why cannot I field edge to edge Tie fighters, waves upon waves, like the ocean ,on the Rebel scum?!

Objection!!!

300 pts for 25 Academies; or 15 Avengers.... Leaves a person sad.....lol j/k

REBUTTAL!

1 Turn of moving 25 Ties is longer than the three hour time limit. :P

What no more than 12 ships of a single small type?! No 25 ship Academy Squadron?! Bastards!!

Why cannot I field edge to edge Tie fighters, waves upon waves, like the ocean ,on the Rebel scum?!

Objection!!!

300 pts for 25 Academies; or 15 Avengers.... Leaves a person sad.....lol j/k

REBUTTAL!

1 Turn of moving 25 Ties is longer than the three hour time limit. :P

But if you can do so without bumping, you are truely the master in movement...

God can you imagine 12 Phantoms? Cloaking in and out of existence? It would feel genuinely confusing. 1 Transport with 5 X-wing escorts get jumped by by 10 Phantoms? I can already hear the panicked Rebel comm chatter.

Meanwhile, aboard the Phantoms:

"Look for my coming on the first light of the fifth day; at dawn, look to the East. I won't be there."

They seek them here, they seek them there. I am a dedicated follower of Phantoms.

And if someone wants to field endless waves of TIEs, I'd be more than happy to plow straight into them with my Armadillo's.

One should be able to take care of about 25 TIEs by itself before blowing up (and why does a destroyed huge ship not deal at least one crit to everything in range 1?).

What no more than 12 ships of a single small type?! No 25 ship Academy Squadron?! Bastards!!

Why cannot I field edge to edge Tie fighters, waves upon waves, like the ocean ,on the Rebel scum?!

Objection!!!

300 pts for 25 Academies; or 15 Avengers.... Leaves a person sad.....lol j/k

REBUTTAL!

1 Turn of moving 25 Ties is longer than the three hour time limit. :P

OBSERVATION!

Hahaha

You have a full squadron, three flight groups, of TIE Fighters with a 12 craft cap. I think that's fair.

What no more than 12 ships of a single small type?! No 25 ship Academy Squadron?! Bastards!!

Why cannot I field edge to edge Tie fighters, waves upon waves, like the ocean ,on the Rebel scum?!

Objection!!!

300 pts for 25 Academies; or 15 Avengers.... Leaves a person sad.....lol j/k

Do what you want, I wont tell anyone :)

I want to play a 1500 point game sometime. Just for fun.

Edited by MajorTomK

If the goal was to speed up gameplay by limiting the number of ships, I'm not sure how much practical good the 12 per type limit really does. Imperials can still field 20 mixed ships (12 TIE, 8 Interceptor) compared to the 25 TIE swarm. (Yes I am ignoring the possible 21 ship build of 12 TIE plus 9 nearly naked Bombers because it doesn't pass my "makes sense" test.) The game's opening couple turns should go an expected 20% faster due to a reduced number of ships, but in the long run I don't believe this will make much difference in the number of turns played in 3 hours. After initial contact with the enemy, I would expect a swarm of 25 TIEs to take significant losses which will speed up later turns anyway.

I guess you could say FFG has done you a favor in the financial department. Now you know that there is no reason to ever buy more than 12 of any ship type (along with stricter limits to the bigger boys) to have every possible epic fleet build available.

What no more than 12 ships of a single small type?! No 25 ship Academy Squadron?! Bastards!!

Why cannot I field edge to edge Tie fighters, waves upon waves, like the ocean ,on the Rebel scum?!

Objection!!!

300 pts for 25 Academies; or 15 Avengers.... Leaves a person sad.....lol j/k

Do what you want, I want tell anyone :)

I want to play a 1500 point game sometime. Just for fun.

I think that would be called a career.

What no more than 12 ships of a single small type?! No 25 ship Academy Squadron?! Bastards!!

Why cannot I field edge to edge Tie fighters, waves upon waves, like the ocean ,on the Rebel scum?!

Objection!!!

300 pts for 25 Academies; or 15 Avengers.... Leaves a person sad.....lol j/k

Because of how long it would take you to activate them all.

Dude, I really want to go with you on this one, but after watching my buddy move his 200 point TIE "hive" around the board in casual games, I can tell you that I personally do not possess the patience required to do that at a competitive level, lol.

What no more than 12 ships of a single small type?! No 25 ship Academy Squadron?! Bastards!!

Why cannot I field edge to edge Tie fighters, waves upon waves, like the ocean ,on the Rebel scum?!

Objection!!!

300 pts for 25 Academies; or 15 Avengers.... Leaves a person sad.....lol j/k

Do what you want, I want tell anyone :)

I want to play a 1500 point game sometime. Just for fun.

I think that would be called a career.

Anyone want to offer me the job?

Imagine being payed to play X-Wing...sweet!

You have a full squadron, three flight groups, of TIE Fighters with a 12 craft cap. I think that's fair.

Exactly. You can't have 13 Alpha Squadron Pilots (for example) because there are only 12 of them.

Edited by Magnus Grendel

It's probably to encourage builds that are actually interesting rather than the "find a ship build you like, jam as many as possible into a squad" that makes up at least 20% of lists I've seen.

I just want to run All my empire ships against 1 transport with all of Rogue Squad and see what happens.

Edited by Cubanboy

What no more than 12 ships of a single small type?! No 25 ship Academy Squadron?! Bastards!!

Why cannot I field edge to edge Tie fighters, waves upon waves, like the ocean ,on the Rebel scum?!

Objection!!!

300 pts for 25 Academies; or 15 Avengers.... Leaves a person sad.....lol j/k

Were you there at the battle of Random Game Store? When EmpireErik's 25 TIE fleet was crushed on the third turn by 3 A-wings with Assault Missiles?!

I was there. I saw the fear in the eyes of the Empire that day. I saw Darth Vader shed a single tear.

Epic play doesn't interest me. I'd rather have "doubles" 2v2.

What no more than 12 ships of a single small type?! No 25 ship Academy Squadron?! Bastards!!

Why cannot I field edge to edge Tie fighters, waves upon waves, like the ocean ,on the Rebel scum?!

Objection!!!

300 pts for 25 Academies; or 15 Avengers.... Leaves a person sad.....lol j/k

Were you there at the battle of Random Game Store? When EmpireErik's 25 TIE fleet was crushed on the third turn by 3 A-wings with Assault Missiles?!

I was there. I saw the fear in the eyes of the Empire that day. I saw Darth Vader shed a single tear.

Impossible, no one could fit 25 ties within range one of each other.

It would take at least 6 A-wings :P .

What no more than 12 ships of a single small type?! No 25 ship Academy Squadron?! Bastards!!

Why cannot I field edge to edge Tie fighters, waves upon waves, like the ocean ,on the Rebel scum?!

Objection!!!

300 pts for 25 Academies; or 15 Avengers.... Leaves a person sad.....lol j/k

Were you there at the battle of Random Game Store? When EmpireErik's 25 TIE fleet was crushed on the third turn by 3 A-wings with Assault Missiles?!

I was there. I saw the fear in the eyes of the Empire that day. I saw Darth Vader shed a single tear.

Soo funny.

What no more than 12 ships of a single small type?! No 25 ship Academy Squadron?! Bastards!!

Why cannot I field edge to edge Tie fighters, waves upon waves, like the ocean ,on the Rebel scum?!

Objection!!!

300 pts for 25 Academies; or 15 Avengers.... Leaves a person sad.....lol j/k

Were you there at the battle of Random Game Store? When EmpireErik's 25 TIE fleet was crushed on the third turn by 3 A-wings with Assault Missiles?!

I was there. I saw the fear in the eyes of the Empire that day. I saw Darth Vader shed a single tear.

Impossible, no one could fit 25 ties within range one of each other.

It would take at least 6 A-wings :P .

In a perfect 5x5 square, you get 25 TIEs all within range 1 of the center ship.